Year 21 and Lebron still has NO MOVES?

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LeBron showed a full moveset in Miami, but he values efficiency over everything else.
He's not doing more running, jumping, and shifting for 2 points if he can drive to basket every possesion instead.
 

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Vince Carter and Julius Erving played in the NBA too, breh. :what:

Vince Cater game was borderline ugly. And he couldn’t dribble well. He seemed uncoordinated a lot of the the time

Julius Irving didn’t really have “moves” either

I’m taking a “beautiful” iso offensive game. Not a “beautiful” dunking/in air game.

For example Nick Young has a beautiful game, but isn’t a freak athlete. He can’t jump like Vince or Dr J
 

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Simplicity is highest form of sophistication :troll:


In all seriousness why focus on fancy dribbling which isn’t conducive to winning Bron is trying to score and win not get Ohhh and Ahhs

The man can play the 1 through the 5 at an elite level

But if you don’t get it you’ll just have to be a witness :wow:
 

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This is literally his first NBA game ever and he already had a bigger bag than the haters are claiming:




0:33 floats up a lob for the alley-oop dunk

0:39 pullup baseline jumper going right

0:44 beats the double and hits a baseline jumper fading left

0:52 beats his guy into the key going left, pulls up at the circle to avoid the 2nd guy, jumps over the 3rd guy and hits a double-clutch floating bank shot going right

1:14 anticipates the pass, jumps in to intercept and tomahawk dunk on the break

1:53 pump-fakes the three, drives into the lane and hits the one-handed floater from 12 feet out

2:00 jumps to the left from outside the lane, switches hands in midair and drops in a fingerroll from 8 feet out with the left hand. That shot is fukking ridiculous. He's basically a high schooler and he's hitting that shot against championship contenders in his FIRST game ever.

2:20 jumper

2:22 damn near a Eurostep on the drive leading to a fingerroll with the right


That's 18yo LeBron's first NBA game ever. 12-20 from the field, 25 points and 9 assists along with 4 steals. Jumpers, floaters, fingerrolls with both hands, dunks, driving into the lane on both sides and pulling up from any distance, great anticipation on defense (people want to forget he nearly led the NBA in steals in just his 2nd season, just 3 behind Iverson), great court vision, great passing touch...




Later that season, his first 40-point game:



Pulls up the dribble, pump fake, contested leaner from about 8-10 feet off glass

Posts up and hits the fadeaway from baseline

Spins out of the post and baseline drive with lightning first step

Catch-and-shoot three pointer from right wing

Crossover, goes right then steps back for long two

Runs P&R, weaves through three guys sneaks in for a lay-up

Steals pass and dunks

Gets his own rebound and hits left-handed layup

Seals his man in the deep post and score another layup

Drives left, weaves right, Rondo-style pass fake to split the double then lays it in with the and-1

Switches dribble from right-to-left then left-to-right while weaving through four guys then finishes with a finesse lay up

Hesitation dribbles into long pull-up two that closes the lead to 1 with 1:49 left

Floats on the fast break to lay it in gently to close to 1 with 38 seconds left

Steals the ball and hangs in the air finishing with the left to hit the game-winning layup with 16 seconds left

Takes miss and ices game with fast break dunk




No moves y'all :bryan:

As a teenager who had nothing but high school experience, he already had a crossover, eurostep, spin move, could beat guys in both directions dribbling with either hand, pullup, fadeaway, and stepback jumpers, bank shots, post game, floaters with both hands, fingerrolls with both hands, and a nice layup and dunk package. And that's before we even get into his elite passing game.


:snoop::snoop:
 

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And this is why basketball discussion is what it is. Not a diss, as much as an explanation. Some fans look at effectiveness, impact, and winning. Some fans look at aestetics, fluidity, and bag. If people could just be self-aware and honest we'd probably have better discussions.

That said if you are saying Bron doesnt have a bag, you havent watched him play. No other way around it. Its clunky and far from smooth but its clearly there. People talk about Bron like there isnt 2 decades of tape on dude :dead:.
 

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And this is why basketball discussion is what it is. Not a diss, as much as an explanation. Some fans look at effectiveness, impact, and winning. Some fans look at aestetics, fluidity, and bag. If people could just be self-aware and honest we'd probably have better discussions.

That said if you are saying Bron doesnt have a bag, you havent watched him play. No other way around it. Its clunky and far from smooth but its clearly there. People talk about Bron like there isnt 2 decades of tape on dude :dead:.

Right. The argument isn’t that he’s not a good scorer

It’s just that he scores in a ugly game

A lot of players have a “bag” and a nice looking game but can’t score over 20 ppg
 

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Right. The argument isn’t that he’s not a good scorer

It’s just that he scores in a ugly game

A lot of players have a “bag” and a nice looking game but can’t score over 20 ppg
Breh you said "no moves". If you said "ugly" there is no discus....:ohhh: I got you. Gotta get them clicks.
 

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Right. The argument isn’t that he’s not a good scorer

It’s just that he scores in a ugly game

A lot of players have a “bag” and a nice looking game but can’t score over 20 ppg


Your title claimed he had "no moves", and you posted an instagram account straight up saying that Bron has zero skill.

That's idiotic nonsense. No one who knew anything about basketball could say Bron has no moves or skill.























And that's not even bringing his all-time GOAT passing bag into it which are all moves too.
 
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