Year 21 and Lebron still has NO MOVES?

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Lebron shoots 37% outside of 5 feet, he has NO moves

Kobe shot about 38% for his career outside of 5 feet, are you saying that Kobe had no moves either?

In fact, since Bron was better on threes and shot selection, I'm pretty sure Bron's eFG% outside of 10 feet is actually higher than Kobe's for their respective careers.
 
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Those clips of Bron look like Kevin Willis trying to handle the rock and work on his moves...:francis:


:mjlol:


This is literally his first NBA game ever and he already had a bigger bag than the haters are claiming:




0:33 floats up a lob for the alley-oop dunk

0:39 pullup baseline jumper going right

0:44 beats the double and hits a baseline jumper fading left

0:52 beats his guy into the key going left, pulls up at the circle to avoid the 2nd guy, jumps over the 3rd guy and hits a double-clutch floating bank shot going right

1:14 anticipates the pass, jumps in to intercept and tomahawk dunk on the break

1:53 pump-fakes the three, drives into the lane and hits the one-handed floater from 12 feet out

2:00 jumps to the left from outside the lane, switches hands in midair and drops in a fingerroll from 8 feet out with the left hand. That shot is fukking ridiculous. He's basically a high schooler and he's hitting that shot against championship contenders in his FIRST game ever.

2:20 jumper

2:22 damn near a Eurostep on the drive leading to a fingerroll with the right


That's 18yo LeBron's first NBA game ever. 12-20 from the field, 25 points and 9 assists along with 4 steals. Jumpers, floaters, fingerrolls with both hands, dunks, driving into the lane on both sides and pulling up from any distance, great anticipation on defense (people want to forget he nearly led the NBA in steals in just his 2nd season, just 3 behind Iverson), great court vision, great passing touch...




Later that season, his first 40-point game:



Pulls up the dribble, pump fake, contested leaner from about 8-10 feet off glass

Posts up and hits the fadeaway from baseline

Spins out of the post and baseline drive with lightning first step

Catch-and-shoot three pointer from right wing

Crossover, goes right then steps back for long two

Runs P&R, weaves through three guys sneaks in for a lay-up

Steals pass and dunks

Gets his own rebound and hits left-handed layup

Seals his man in the deep post and score another layup

Drives left, weaves right, Rondo-style pass fake to split the double then lays it in with the and-1

Switches dribble from right-to-left then left-to-right while weaving through four guys then finishes with a finesse lay up

Hesitation dribbles into long pull-up two that closes the lead to 1 with 1:49 left

Floats on the fast break to lay it in gently to close to 1 with 38 seconds left

Steals the ball and hangs in the air finishing with the left to hit the game-winning layup with 16 seconds left

Takes miss and ices game with fast break dunk




No moves y'all :bryan:

As a teenager who had nothing but high school experience, he already had a crossover, eurostep, spin move, could beat guys in both directions dribbling with either hand, pullup, fadeaway, and stepback jumpers, bank shots, post game, floaters with both hands, fingerrolls with both hands, and a nice layup and dunk package. And that's before we even get into his elite passing game.
 

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In terms of legends of the game I put Bron and Karl Malone in the same basket.


Unquestionably great...but both play an ugly, stiff style that never has been pleasing to the eye.


Those clips of Bron look like Kevin Willis trying to handle the rock and work on his moves...:francis:
Both Bron and Malone are just big and strong as hell...they don't need a "bag" of fancy tricks when they can just bulldog their way through everybody, a lot of fouls don't get called on them because they just power through like it's nothing
 

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New and improved Karl Malone.

Nothing flashy, one or two dribbles, then layup or dunk :manny:
 
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To Lebrons credit I think a lot of super athletic players above 6’6 have an “ugly game” because dribbling just ain’t easy when you’re tall quick and explosive because they lack pace and usually never developed skill but instead always depended on being bigger faster and jumping higher

Some exceptions are Jordan, Penny, T Mac grant hill etc.... maybe Ray Allen (Kobe wasn’t a freak athlete to me just super long arms :manny:)

Really Jordan is the only super fast athletic player 6’6 and above with a beautiful game
And now currently Jalen Green :banderas:
You dumb. Kobe’s game was beautiful.
 
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