Yahoo Sports: “A closer look at MJ’s 1988 DPOY raises questions about its validity”

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At this point, anyone who denies the reality is hopeless. They're jumping through every hoop they can to deny or excuse the fact that Jordan CLEARLY had to engage in stat padding and home cooking to make a DPOY case that season.

Looks he should have won it back to back years. Y’all would be even bigger mad

 

[RoCKetSity256]

The rest of those games other than the “euro vhs 6” are on the internet. Go watch them and report back

Link all the home games from the 88 season

 

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Link all the home games from the 88 season

Nikka go search on YouTube if you that interested

 

[RoCKetSity256]

Nikka go search on YouTube if you that interested

I didnt think you could

 

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I didnt think you could

Lettuce know your findings

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Is so comfortable hangin from Brons balls.

Scust

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Looks he should have won it back to back years. Y’all would be even bigger mad

Based on what? Even in his best 1988 season he didn't have nearly the defensive impact of Hakeem Olajuwon, he wasn't even Pat Ewing or Mark Eaton level. And in the next season he only got 3 votes for DPOY and finished 5th, despite still getting 20 more home steals than road steals (extra 0.5 steals every game).

1989 Bulls were 11th in defensive rating despite Jordan, Pippen, and Grant all being in the starting lineup. How is MJ making a Defensive Player of the Year case that season?

 

[RoCKetSity256]

Lettuce know your findings

You brought up watching the games because you said the only 1s you cant find online are the 6 the reporter watched. Prove yourself right and link us to all the home games from the 88 season. We both know youre wrong though dont we

 

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Based on what? Even in his best 1988 season he didn't have nearly the defensive impact of Hakeem Olajuwon, he wasn't even Pat Ewing or Mark Eaton level. And in the next season he only got 3 votes for DPOY and finished 5th, despite still getting 20 more home steals than road steals (extra 0.5 steals every game).

1989 Bulls were 11th in defensive rating despite Jordan, Pippen, and Grant all being in the starting lineup. How is MJ making a Defensive Player of the Year case that season?

86-87 jordan should of won dpoy

Now we’ve learned not only did the ‘86 dpoy Alvin Robertson had the same differential at home.but jordan had better stats than the ‘87 winner Michael cooper & was top 5 in every advanced metric in ‘88 including #1 in dpm in the nba furthering proof he was the dpoy.they clearly didn’t use advanced stats in the 80’s so it’s evidence besides just blocks & steals

Jordan should of won dpoy in 86-87 too

There’s no case for Michael cooper over jordan

 

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Im pretty sure they didnt think someone checking Jaren Jacksons defensive stats for his dpoy would lead to giving someone the idea to check mj's. If Jaren Jacksons numbers pushed people to check for "home cooking" no reason to think that wouldnt give someone else the idea to check 1 of MJs greatest defensive seasons. Jaren's season passed the test though and unfortunately MJs didnt. Im also pretty sure if they could get more footage theyll check those games too. hopefully those games will get uploaded to the net since its such a big topic right now. But even if they dont we already have confirmation from players media and scorekeepers that it was happening so it still doesnt change anything.

You keep saying footage when the writer chose 6 games nobody could corroborate instead of the other 76 games he could have used.So you’re saying he didn’t pass a test that you can’t even corroborate is based on what exactly? If we’re only going by percentages, then you have to accept people other than MJ (a lot of them being ppl most haven’t heard of) were also getting boosts.

His away defensive stats from that season are still better than any Bron season. And ultimately, the gap between MJ and Brons accomplishments is the hall of fame career that KD had. So even take away the DPOY, Lebron still doesn’t measure up to MJ. All these attacks on the 90s, fake lies that MJ didn’t go left, or that he played against plumbers is cap to boost up Lebron. The only way he can measure up with MJ is if we retroactively go back and tear him down a step. Pathetic.


The great career is going to be tarnished because of his narcisstic approach to beating MJ. But it already was when he team hopped and hand picked stars that covered up his weaknesses. And even with that STILL, didn’t outdo MJ.

I can't address what you said because it's a completely made-up conspiracy claim with zero evidence of it ever happening.


When you claimed that everyone had benefitted from home cooking, I destroyed that claim with actual numbers. But when you claim that LeBron is secretly giving instructions to an entire web of agents across the league to talk bad about all his historical rivals, that idiocy is impossible to refute, because you don't have a single incident of it EVER happening. Not once has anyone ever shown LeBron to ever tell anyone he's associated with to talk bad about Jordan or any other player.


What you do to support your stupid theory is:

* Claim that everyone who says something negative about Jordan is "Klutch", even when they're not (like the article in this thread)
* Claim that everyone who is "Klutch" is negative towards Jordan and ignore every time they praise him
* Ignore all evidence to the contrary

The stupidity of your conspiracy theory here isn't as stupid as your claims that the earth is flat or that Black people are native to North America. But your thinking is just as illogical in each one. Your entire gig on here is to be a fake Hotep idiot spouting the stupidest conspiracy theories on every topic that could make posters here look dumb (except when it comes to capitalism and you turn straight into a Heritage Foundation loving college boy again, which is likely closer to your real life persona).

Knock it off. Broussard is repped by Klutch. You think he’s the only one? He also said he received a email from Klutch on why Lebron (not other Klutch player AD who actually played both sides of the ball) should be MVP this last season. Again you think he’s the only one? Kendrick and SAS has said they’ve been checked based on what they say about Bron. You think they’re the only ones?Nick Wright has said he works with Rich Paul. You think he’s the only one? And btw you quoted me talking about Ahmad Rashad, a media member that NEVER downed players of the past to boost up MJ which is a parallel that someone attempted to make l. He was simply a friend that MJ chose to give interviews to. Completely different than what Lebron/Klutch does when it comes to analysts. You think Shannon and Klutch didn’t have a relationship? Kendrick before a couple weeks ago? Disingenuous babble

And again, no one was downing the past to boost a current superstar until Lebron. Nobody downed the people Kareem or Patrick Ewing faced to boost up Shaq. Nobody downed MJs competition to boost up Kobe. This only happens when it comes to Bron. Your pathetic attempts at including topics (that you also can’t address) are called ad hominems. Try staying on topic and if you want to discuss those topics create the thread to do so and I’ll put the fire to your goyim/gentile head top like I always do

 

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You keep saying footage when the writer chose 6 games nobody could corroborate instead of the other 76 games he could have used.So you’re saying he didn’t pass a test that you can’t even corroborate is based on what exactly? If we’re only going by percentages, then you have to accept people other than MJ (a lot of them being ppl most haven’t heard of) were also getting boosts.

Ive already said i believe other guys back then received "home cooking" so i dont get why you guys keep saying otherwise? Link the other 35 1988 bulls home games. Show us you know what youre talking about. im basing my thoughts off of logic nobody with any credibility says the man is lying only mj fans. Pippen spoke on this in his book BEFORE the report was ever done. Journalists acknowledge it was happening and stat keepers acknowledge it was happening. The only 1s denying this are MJs fans.

 

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Based on what? Even in his best 1988 season he didn't have nearly the defensive impact of Hakeem Olajuwon, he wasn't even Pat Ewing or Mark Eaton level. And in the next season he only got 3 votes for DPOY and finished 5th, despite still getting 20 more home steals than road steals (extra 0.5 steals every game).

1989 Bulls were 11th in defensive rating despite Jordan, Pippen, and Grant all being in the starting lineup. How is MJ making a Defensive Player of the Year case that season?

86-87 over Cooper + 88, snap out of it

 

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Ive already said i believe other guys back then received "home cooking" so i dont get why you guys keep saying otherwise? Link the other 35 1988 bulls home games. Show us you know what youre talking about. im basing my thoughts off of logic nobody with any credibility says the man is lying only mj fans. Pippen spoke on this in his book BEFORE the report was ever done. Journalists acknowledge it was happening and stat keepers acknowledge it was happening. The only 1s denying this are MJs fans.

This ain’t gonna change anything in regards to MJ breh, you have high hopes though

 

[RoCKetSity256]

This ain’t gonna change anything in regards to MJ breh, you have high hopes though

Still dont have those links huh? See if you could show us those links to the other home games that you say you can find online so easily your theory that he cherry picked games would be credible. But when you cant come up with them then that just means you typing just to type.

 

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Still dont have those links huh? See if you could show us those links to the other home games that you say you can find online so easily your theory that he cherry picked games would be credible. But when you cant come up with them then that just means you typing just to type.

I don’t have an opinion on this weak shyt. I was trying to tell you where you can find the games. This Klutch story has more red flags than North Korea