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#XBOXTakeover
Xbox One wins 3 consecutive months in NPD for the first time, #1 UK,
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We live in America
Microsoft is an American company
NPD is about American sales.
"Worldwide" is irrelevant here
Microsoft was getting outsold so bad they quit putting out sales numbers. Even as bad as the Wii U sold Nintendo still continued to put out unit sales.
This means next to nothing in the grand scheme of things. It changes nothing.
theres no reason to emphasize hardware sales anymore as software and services is where the profit is. As far as investors are concerned the number of active and paying users is more important than the hardware sales numbers.
No one said anything will "change" both consoles are selling better than their predecessors. Console gaming is very healthy. Everyone wins.
The only people this effects are console warriors who wann Stan/make excuses for the numbers.
Except active monthly users is a stat that is very deceptive because it lumps Xbox 360, Xbox One, and PC users all together and mixes silver and gold users. Also any of those users that logs on once in the last 30 days is counted.
It's a padded stat and it's a way for them to not have to put out numbers quarterly that say our chief competitor has still doubled our sales.
It's actually worse than when Sony used to bundle PS3 and PS2 sales as well as PSP and Vita sales and call it the PlayStation family sales to hid their lagging sales numbers.
Active users directly correlates with money spending.
PlayStation emphasizes hardware numbers because that's what they are doing better at right now, but still the more important numbers to investors are hardware and software sales. It sounds good to say "we sold more consoles" but if those users aren't buying games/services then they are worthless.
Except that included in the active user numebr are people who don't spend anything. In fact they may very well be approaching the majority. Xbox Live Silver members and PC users who use the service for free and don't have to buy anything. Why are they included in active users? Because if gives out a higher more respectable number.
If it was about spending money Microsoft could filter that number down to users who have made a purchase in the last 30 days instead of who turned on an internet connected device. There's a reason they don't do that.
No it's because it's an industry standard practice. In fact in most industries where businesses sell products to consumers they don't go out of their way to mask the end user sales numbers unless there's some unfavorable reason to.
Take Apple for example. When iPhone sales were making history the first week they put the numbers out. Now that iPhone sales are in the decline they won't put those numbers out anymore for the simple fact that comparisons will be made to the older better numbers and the result will be unfavorable.
Nobody was born yesterday here. Microsoft's switch to "monthly active users" isn't to tout people buying stuff. If it was we all know they know how many of those MAU buys stuff on their platform. They could put those numbers out like I said but they choose not to.
It should also be said that Sony announced the PS4 Pro release date and price. Why then would people go out and buy the regular PS4 when they could wait a few months and buy the Pro version for slightly more? There's a very logical reason for PS4 sales to drop several months before a known product refresh.
This. I don't get why some folks make it hard to put 2+2 together.
The whole MAU switch is a giant excuse and corporate spin. They just wanted to put out a higher number because Sony was cruising them. You might parrot their spin but everybody else knows why they did it and it wasn't for the purpose of showing how many users spend money on their platform because their criteria for MAU purposely includes users who don't spend a dime and is very loose.Like I said it only matters to those of you who want to make excuses
The holiday sales will kick in soon and the Pro will be released and we'll be back to business as usual.
Be furious brehs
Be furious brehs
He's in here furiously trying to downplay something he said "doesn't matter"
Sounds like it matters to him and the rest of you stans.
If Sony had won y'all would have made your circle jerk thread and proclaimed the PS Slim was better than the One S. But since it didn't go that way y'all wanna pretend Sony didn't release new hardware and run with an excuse about a future release.
Ima just sit here and watch and come back to laugh if Microsoft wins next month too
He's in here furiously trying to downplay something he said "doesn't matter"
Sounds like it matters to him and the rest of you stans.
If Sony had won y'all would have made your circle jerk thread and proclaimed the PS Slim was better than the One S. But since it didn't go that way y'all wanna pretend Sony didn't release new hardware and run with an excuse about a future release.
Ima just sit here and watch and come back to laugh if Microsoft wins next month too
These guys are delusional. Even the PS4 Pro isn't flying off with the preorders so far. It's in stock to ship on release day at best buy, gamestop and Amazon.
Let the coli crew say it different though.
Sony has been making some very strange decisions in the past year or so while Microsoft is working their asses off in order to regain trust from the market.
The argument that everyone has a PS4 so people are buying other consoles doesn't really make sense because the console generation is only 3 years old. If that was the case Nintendo would be seeing a significant bump as well, but this forum refuses to give the xbox brand credit. I really like what they have been doing in the past 18 months.