No one watches eitherBut no one wins summer games fest
Xbox, Nintendo, and Sony Won't Be Part of E3 2023
- Thread starter The Mad Titan
- Start date
Yeah, breh ain't hearing you on this.
Before, E3 being such a big thing really did force the industry (whether everyone liked it or not) to prioritize for a week, and usually, the most newsworthy stuff found its way onto someone's stage for a presentation.
For example, without E3, we probably don't get Cyberpunk's showing at the Microsoft show that one year, complete with the Keanu appearance fukkery. That's just as likely to be part of a way too long stream from CDPR where the devs get too much screen time as it is to be a less exciting pre-recorded message.
We probably don't get a presentation like the God of War 2018 announcement, where they worked the entire theater into the trailer.
We don't get Ubisoft's usual incredibly confusing presentation.
All these smaller shows exist but don't really even succeed at fulfilling what they were supposed to do. How much has the PC Gaming show mattered over the last few years? How many of these smaller shows have just turned into an hour and change of watching a four square of uncharismatic developers talk into their webcams and fail to find synonyms for the word "epic" when describing how their game plays?
And on top of that, Geoff still struggles to curate and pace a show, and DEFINITELY doesn't know how to balance the the show with the ad content he's got to work in, since he doesn't get to write the entire thing off as a line item in the advertising budget like most other companies at E3 can.
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
We also don’t get a bunch of fugazi footage of games either because publishers felt forced to make a arbritray deadline to promote a game.
‘gamers’ don’t get their ‘gaming Christmas’ but the industry is better off for not all circling around one date for showcasing games, ready or not. And not for nothign we get more showcases now than we did back then. For example, the game awards had a lot of great announcements (death stranding 2, hades 2, Armored Core VI, FF16, Star Wars, phantom liberty, etc.) when usually we’d get no gaming news in the winter at all.
No point in mourning over E3, it was always gonna die as a result of how the internet works now. Just like how we always lament over these gaming publications being less and less relevant the same goes for big media events. Every platform holder or publisher can announce their games on a sunday morning any day of the year and get the same attention without giving the ESA a ton of money
You know good and damn well the bolded is a gotdamn lie, otherwise you need to stop yourself the next time you fix your fingers to type some shyt like "Where's Fable?" as if you're DeAngelo Barksdale.
The Game Awards are about 40 minutes of trailers sprinkled into nearly three hours of bullshyt awards that no one actually cares about. And the trailers shown were mostly for shyt that was shown way too early that likely could've waited until now or even the E3 window to get released. Geoff done sold you a hype treadmill that gets you the same actual content with way more unnecessary radio silence periods of games, when in reality, all that actually needed to happen was for the ESA to modernize their business model.
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
You know good and damn well the bolded is a gotdamn lie, otherwise you need to stop yourself the next time you fix your fingers to type some shyt like "Where's Fable?" as if you're DeAngelo Barksdale.
The Game Awards are about 40 minutes of trailers sprinkled into nearly three hours of bullshyt awards that no one actually cares about. And the trailers shown were mostly for shyt that was shown way too early that likely could've waited until now or even the E3 window to get released. Geoff done sold you a hype treadmill that gets you the same actual content with way more unnecessary radio silence periods of games, when in reality, all that actually needed to happen was for the ESA to modernize their business model.
Yeah but its up to publishers to participate or not, there’s no mandatory “sony, microsoft, nintendo” expectation of having an hour long showcase. Thats why sony showed spider-man, horizon, tsushima, and deaht stranding like 3 years in a row last gen. Now if they aren’t ready they simply don’t have a showcase like last year
Same with Nintendo, they didn’t need to show ToTK until today because there weren’t any expectation for them to have a big blowout showcase
Crying over E3 is like crying over gaming magazines
Last edited:
Ubisoft will probably get bought. I know they were trying to shop themselves.I think it's going to reveal itself to be a bad move for those ranked the lowest among the big studios (Ubisoft I'm looking at you).
With E3, they could benefit from the attention drawn to the events and other better publishers... But now
E3 is dying because it's completely unnecessary. It's natural this is happening. The internet means games can be showcased when they're ready. Most stuff leaks well before it's shown at E3 anyway.
E3 was for the time of Gamefan and EGM. The time when the game community was far less connected. They don't even need the trade show floor to demo games to the press anymore. They can even do that remote now or of the game is big enough they hold their own demos for it like that recent Final Fantasy event for the press.
From a game company standpoint why spend all that money at E3? When Sony decided to no longer participate it was a fatal blow.
I don't care if E3 is or was necessary or not, it was really good for consumers and devs that travelled to events. Maybe not so great for the big dog publishers money wise but I really couldn't care less about that. It's not like the money they save not going to E3 is going to be directly funneled into XYZ game. It's gonna be used on some other company expenses that we'll never hear about.
If it's one thing these internet events have proven over the last 3 years its that even on their own time table Devs/publishers can't tell when footage shouldn't or should be shown. I think most are tone deaf to a certain extent.
Also you say all this, but trade shows, game events and comic cons are still popular and the life blood of actual PASSIONATE fans, developers and creative minds linking up and bouncing off things with one another.
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
Pretty sure its all apart of their marketing budgets. Microsoft isn’t paying the ESA but they are still doing a live event across the street the same day. Nintendo and Sony probably aren’t doing live events but their marketing budgets will be spent on their big games or doing some other consumer facing event
E3 was fun. Sounds like some of yall never had a chance to go.
Seems like something happened that companies lost confidence in the event. Most everybody had plans to go until they didn’t.
Companies sold alot during covid without it. Then they are also able to escape the backlash of these huge reveals o ly to delay.
I mean even this year lots of companies implied or even right out said they would be there.
Something had to happen in the planning phase that made them pull out.