If Sunspot is included it better not be that whitewashed bullshyt they been running with.
X-Men '97
- Thread starter Gizmo_Duck
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The Cyclops love is only in the past 15 years or so. He wasn’t very popular and was kinda bland. Then he went and left Maddy, and little baby Cable, high and dry when Jean came back. It was the Morrison run, followed by when the X-Men were out in Cali and Scott made X-Force his secret hit squad, that he started to have a edge to him.
Bugzbunny129
All Star
Yea. Its the new stuff for sure.
Imo xmen ends at astonishing. All the shyt that happened after is wack to me and has no effect on what xmen should be. I know people like some if the recent runs but it jumped the shark years ago imo. I mean arent they all clones rn anyway. Dumb. Xmen is best when its simple.
Days of Future Piff
Superstar
Chris Claremont and John Byrne were the real key ingredient. Without Byrne, Wolverine would have never been anything.
Wolverine's popularity as a character didn't really take off into the stratosphere until well into the Dark Phoenix Saga (during Byrne's run). Prior to that, Wolverine stayed getting sonned REGULARLY and didn't really stand out all that much:
X-men 97, 1976
X-men 108, 1977
X-men #125, 1979
Wolverine started becoming a bigger deal when John Byrne took over as the artist.
X-men 133, 1980
^^^That was the moment where Wolverine officially became HIM.
The real secret to this era's success was having better writers like Chris Claremont and John Byrne on board.
Wolverine's breakout popularity was the byproduct.
It's telling that Cyclops and Jean were the only OG characters they kept around as regulars when they relaunched the series with Giant Sized #1.
In fact, the two of them were the primary focus of their most iconic storyline:
X-men 136 and 137, 1980
Cyclops and Jean were never the problem, it's the rest of that 60's crew that was mid. (Mainly Angel and Iceman. Beast was alright)
Iceman
Angel (before the metal wings)
Scott himself was actually dope throughout the Cockrum/Byrne/Paul Smith era until X-factor #1 character-assassinated him in the mid-1980s.
Most people here are ONLY viewing X-men through the lenses of their rose-tinted memories of the 90s cartoon series and nothing else.
(Not saying this is you, @Luke Cage. I disagree with you but I can tell that you've read the books.)
IMO the first half of the Claremont era (issues 98-200) was the golden age.
The mid-to late 80s had some great stories (Mutant Massacre, Genosha, Inferno), but I didn't like how X-factor retconned the Dark Phoenix Saga and messed up Cyclops.
The early 90s are also a good time, but the quality takes a noticable dip after the Image crew leaves. As much fun as the early 90s were, that was also the most overrated era lowkey. A lot of cats rate this era way too highly because they're only going off the cartoon.
I don't really care one way or the other about anything that happens after Astonishing.
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humminbird
Veteran
humminbird
Veteran
yeah
Batsute
The Lion Choker
Sunspot looks so out of place in that costume. Like an Apex player who entered a Quake tournament.
They NEED to release a fukking trailer or something 
Gizmo_Duck
blathering blatherskite!
The Summers family is responsbile for like half the x-men storylines
HipHopStan
Top 113 Poster
Who is the dude on here that always says "morph this his one's for you"?
En Sabah Nur
The First
I bet they make him a homo
Storm for the first 20 odd years of her existence was pretty much an exotical or at least she was drawn that way.
King_Kamala61
TheColi's Favorite Artist
I see a white woman with sepia paintStorm for the first 20 odd years of her existence was pretty much an exotical or at least she was drawn that way.