Wu-Tang Clan Docuseries ‘Of Mics and Men on Showtime(Available on Demand)

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Like what?

*Beefs
*Making of certain albums (especially Tical ... shyt sounds so diff than the rest of the albums... the making of Cuban Links, arguably the Magnum Opus... just glazed over a lotta solo shyt )
*More about their blood family
*Where are they now type shyt (wasn’t cap allegedly driving a cab?)
*ghosts mask
*the Method Man Single
*Meth’s rise to fame, Ghosts success , GZAs foray into science
*The Wu affiliates (just a glimpse)
RZA going Hollywood
* their penchant for rollling deep (that’s one of the things that became their calling card ... 100 negroes rolling from state to state... allegedly only crew they rolled deeper was cash money who used to bring the whole projects... you cannot disregard how the industry viewed them in that regard )
*The Flood
*Bob Digi
*Ghost’s skid bid for the burner
*the fukkin FBI File

Cmon man ... it’s a lot

... again, this was a primer .
 

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hot97, was imo subterfuge to cover up the fact.
rza was caught with his pants down after the flood or fire.
art barr

Considering ironman was the first album post flood i dont agree.

Theres a steep decline in rza helmed wu albums 98-01 (bobby digi 1/2, sc,bpw,ghost dog, the w) versus the non rza helmed albums. That and my fav era of rza was 2000.

Hot 97 went from playing wu on midday to the rare joint a night by djs like kay slay, star, etc. rae had beef with flex over this. The hot97 thing is a long talked about thing in wu community. Only ghost meth and odb got play like that and only for major hits. I saw that when the special delivery remix dropped; all of a sudden non rnb ghostface song getting play. G dep was never hotter than ghost.

That and the musician who went up to the rza at guitar center circa 97 and told him sampling is killing music and taking mo ey out musicians pockets. Next thing we have is bobby digital and rza smoking hella dust thinking he was a real super hero
 

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*Beefs
*Making of certain albums (especially Tical ... shyt sounds so diff than the rest of the albums... the making of Cuban Links, arguably the Magnum Opus... just glazed over a lotta solo shyt )
*More about their blood family
*Where are they now type shyt (wasn’t cap allegedly driving a cab?)
*ghosts mask
*the Method Man Single
*Meth’s rise to fame, Ghosts success , GZAs foray into science
*The Wu affiliates (just a glimpse)
RZA going Hollywood
* their penchant for rollling deep (that’s one of the things that became their calling card ... 100 negroes rolling from state to state... allegedly only crew they rolled deeper was cash money who used to bring the whole projects... you cannot disregard how the industry viewed them in that regard )
*The Flood
*Bob Digi
*Ghost’s skid bid for the burner
*the fukkin FBI File

Cmon man ... it’s a lot

... again, this was a primer .

They are not going to say anything about the fbi files. We'll get denials. shyt would have been mad long for the solo stuff. Hopefully we will get something down the line.
 

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10 members including Cap, that's 10 splits. Then the management, lawyers, album budget, marketing budget, video budget, tour budget (imagine food alone for the entourages :damn:) Sample heavy beats eating all the publishing. Then fukking taxes. I don't think these brothers can do simple addition. I highly doubt Rza and Divine were raping them like they think.
 

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damn they did Divine dirty as hell :francis:

Rza said if they wold have stuck to Divine's plan they would have probably owned like 10 full blocks of their old hood :wow:


Everyone has the gift of hindsight but very few have the gift of foresight. To me the only real business minded dudes within the team were Rza, divine and power. Divine was on some next level business minded shyt, so everything was a flip or investment. Not everybody is born with that skill. Plus it takes time and patience. If anything I want to learn more about what he does.
 

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10 members including Cap, that's 10 splits. Then the management, lawyers, album budget, marketing budget, video budget, tour budget (imagine food alone for the entourages :damn:) Sample heavy beats eating all the publishing. Then fukking taxes. I don't think these brothers can do simple addition. I highly doubt Rza and Divine were raping them like they think.
Haven’t watched the doc yet, are they struggling or doing ok?
 

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Haven’t watched the doc yet, are they struggling or doing ok?

The only one that openly stated that he's hurting was Cap. He may have been exaggerating to a point tho.

What's crazy is that Deck, in an interview over a decade ago, said that all of the members...every single one of them...made millions. Some of them just wasn't too wise with their money.
 

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The only one that openly stated that he's hurting was Cap. He may have been exaggerating to a point tho.

What's crazy is that Deck, in an interview over a decade ago, said that all of the members...every single one of them...made millions. Some of them just wasn't too wise with their money.
Cap is terrible with money. He had a gold album and then signed to so so def. he had better shots than some of the more prominent members.

Just a few years ago he got 10 racks to adlib on a Drake song... Dudes been trying to look out for him in the industry on the low but you can't hold a mans hand thru life :manny:

Deck went and built his czarface shyt

Ghost been doing all types of side projects for years.

Meth always got acting and music.

Rae stay active in music.

Ironically Cappa is the type of dude who would have been served better staying under the Divine umbrella but here we are :manny:

10 members including Cap, that's 10 splits. Then the management, lawyers, album budget, marketing budget, video budget, tour budget (imagine food alone for the entourages :damn:) Sample heavy beats eating all the publishing. Then fukking taxes. I don't think these brothers can do simple addition. I highly doubt Rza and Divine were raping them like they think.

10 members 10 managers instead of 1... who really fukked up Wu-tang?

the egos...
 

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Everyone has the gift of hindsight but very few have the gift of foresight. To me the only real business minded dudes within the team were Rza, divine and power. Divine was on some next level business minded shyt, so everything was a flip or investment. Not everybody is born with that skill. Plus it takes time and patience. If anything I want to learn more about what he does.
yea no doubt.

Its sad because they should be doing way better than they seem to be (at least some of them)....
...plus, they no longer have a relationship w/ Divine.

It honestly seemed like some low key hating shyt...
...they didnt want to see him make money because he wasnt a rapper...plus im sure being Rza's brother didnt help.
 
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Plus Rza said years ago that he gave every member the opportunity to learn how to produce and make beats and records. None of them wanted to, they was all street dudes. He said the only one who stayed and learned from him was Deck, reason why he produces some of his own work. He seems like the one member who is not doing to bad these days.
 

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Plus Rza said years ago that he gave every member the opportunity to learn how to produce and make beats and records. None of them wanted to, they was all street dudes. He said the only one who stayed and learned from him was Deck, reason why he produces some of his own work. He seems like the one member who is not doing to bad these days.


Rae, Ghost, Meth, and Gza look fine.
 

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Haven’t watched the doc yet, are they struggling or doing ok?

they don't look like they are struggling at all...they've been in the industry for 25+ years..im sure they do have some other streams of income or opportunities...some are not as public like lets say RZA or Meth..shyt Dirty before he died...outside of the shyt with RZA and Divine when he got out of Jail..dude still had specials, appearances on shows, guest appearance on albums and movie soundtracks...shyt spike even filmed a reality show on him, stuck on dirty, that is still unreleased
 

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The only one that openly stated that he's hurting was Cap. He may have been exaggerating to a point tho.

What's crazy is that Deck, in an interview over a decade ago, said that all of the members...every single one of them...made millions. Some of them just wasn't too wise with their money.
U-God said it too...on his DVD. Then he said something like but if he made 1M, he feels he should be seeing 2M. In that same doc, he pulled up on Cap, and clowned him like "driving a cab" in this
 

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Same i hate how much shine Cilvaringz got he is such a clown.

I don't really see it as him getting shine tho'... if anything, they told his story to set up the story about that album, which everyone then shytted on and exposed how it was put together. If anything, he was cast as an outside guy who RZA's cool with and put together a bogus project. If they left out who he was, it would've left people wondering "who the fk is he and how did he get to make that shyt?" He ended up as the villain of the whole thing IMO, rightfully.
 
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