Writer's and Actor's Strike 2023: Aaaaand Scene...That's a Wrap!

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It shouldn't have come to this. After five meetings over 10 days between four of Hollywood's top CEOs and the leaders of the Screen Actors Guild, it was supposed to be down to the wire for a deal.

Instead, SAG-AFTRA President Fran Drescher touched a frayed nerve with the CEOs, principally Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos and Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav, according to multiple insiders who spoke to TheWrap.

The guild had returned to the negotiating room at SAG headquarters in West Hollywood with a new ask: Instead of demanding a 1% levy on all streaming revenue, the guild was demanding a flat $1 per subscriber, per year fee.

This was an unusual first-dollar revenue share regardless of profit or any individual contributions to the success of any show, much less a company. The money would go to the guild itself rather than individual actors on any show — and the union would decide how to distribute.


The CEOs had already rejected the idea of revenue sharing in principle as untenable for their business model. But in their view, it was back.

"On what basis would you do that?" Zaslav pressed.

Drescher deflected. "Think how much better actors' lives will be," she said.

And she said what the CEOs took to be a threat: that if she did not get this benefit for her members, it would be back to the strike lines for all. SAG-AFTRA has been on the picket lines since the strike began, but the threat seemed to indicate a robust showing along the lines of the vociferous presence of WGA members throughout the summer.

This subscriber proposal made no sense to CEOs Zaslav, Sarandos, Disney CEO Bob Iger and NBCUniversal's Studio Group Chairman Donna Langley. They felt they had already offered significant raises to actors in their negotiations up to that point, and that a flat levy to the guild on their subscription revenue was, as Sarandos later put it, a bridge too far.

They also worried they'd need to give a similar deal to other guilds, which would cost even more in a portion of the industry – streaming – where most studios are losing money.

It was an economic model they could not accept.

After they left the negotiating room, Sarandos called his peers to circle up: the studio heads agreed that they were done talking.

"We're not a socialist country," said an individual on the studio side. "We said, 'This is crazy.' It made no sense."
Yea, studios not budging on :francis:
 

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Looks like there gonna be some infighting in SAG with the stupid demands they had :mjlol:

A group of A-list actors is adding pressure on SAG-AFTRA leadership to find a way to resolve the actors strike, which has now lasted 97 days.

George Clooney, Tyler Perry, Scarlett Johansson, and others held a Zoom meeting on Tuesday afternoon with Fran Drescher, the president of SAG-AFTRA, and Duncan Crabtree-Ireland, the union’s executive director.

Though the tone has been described as “supportive,” the actors did not call the meeting merely to express support. According to several sources, the A-listers represent significant discontent within the guild that talks have broken down, and are looking for a path to restart negotiations and end the strike.

Perry employs hundreds of people at his studio in Atlanta, and has been concerned for weeks that he cannot resume production.

The group, which also includes Emma Stone and Ben Affleck, was said by one source to have given a “presentation” to Drescher and Crabtree-Ireland. The leaders listened and were expected to meet with the SAG-AFTRA Negotiating Committee on Wednesday afternoon before delivering a response.
The key obstacle in negotiations is SAG-AFTRA’s demand for a new form of streaming residual, which would come on top the residuals that actors already earn on streaming shows.
 

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Pressure the actors but not the studios. :dead:

Horrible people.
Because they know that 2% of all streaming revenue going to sag is dumb.
Getting paid $1 per subscriber is dumb as well.
The fact that some heavy hitters like those are coming to Fran and telling her the higher paid actors will pay more dues to help the lower tier actors says how bad they think the proposals are.

'A lot of the top earners want to be part of the solution," the two-time Oscar winner told Deadline. "We've offered to remove the cap on dues, which would bring over $50 million to the union annually. Well over $150 million over the next three years. We think it's fair for us to pay more into the union. We also are suggesting a bottom-up residual structure — meaning the top of the call sheet would be the last to collect residuals, not the first. These negotiations will be ongoing, but we wanted to show that we're all in this together and find ways to help close the gap on actors getting paid

Fran told them she aint trying to here that though:
First of all, I want to thank certain members that wield a lot of clout in this business for the tremendous amount of money that they contributed to our foundation," Drescher said in a lengthy video posted to Instagram. "I also want to thank George Clooney for organizing the suggestion that...take the caps off of the dues so that the highest paid members can contribute more. Although that's extremely generous and we accept that graciously."

Drescher explained that the proposal wouldn't work legally due to the basis of the union's contract. "We are a federally regulated labor union and the only contributions that can go into our pension and health funds must be from the employer. So what we are fighting for in terms of benefits has to remain in this contract."
She added, "[It's] kind of apples and oranges, just so everybody understands that."

@OnlyFrans you on some bullshyt. Tyler Perry and Clooney gonna be on your head top :mjgrin:
 

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yeah... Fran fukking up.

I thought once the writers got their deal done that actors would have gotten their deal quickly after.



2024 slate looking rough
Fran falling into the same trappings most unions/protest leaders fall into

You at the meetings and press conferences with the fiery, passionate speeches. You using all the revolutionary language and talking about the people and getting reactions. That power gets addictive and nikkas lose sight of the original goal

All these movements have the same trajectory, most recently with BLM and Metoo. The leaders get addicted to that first hit of power from having their initial grievances heard, then start finding ways to feed that high. This is where all the petty, outrageous demands come from. Overplaying that initial hot hand

So now you have Napoleon Dresher morphing into a dictator over petty shyt while her constituents are like :dahell: bytch wtf you doing?" While the studios walk out the door because you got greedy

After seeing so many of these movements collapse I realize what MLK's superpower was. MLK never lost focus of the initial goal. He didn't fall into the deviations other rebel leaders do. That focus got him killed because them cacs knew he wouldn't be distracted into becoming a control freak over arbitrary shyt
 

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Studios and SAG meet again today. Studios said if they dont get a deal done during this week, then they not coming back to the table til fJanuary.

This was posted yesterday morning
Hollywood studios are giving one more week to negotiations with SAG-AFTRA before they are ready to pack it in for the rest of the year, TheWrap has learned.

According to an individual with knowledge of their thinking, the studios believe that if they can’t reach a deal in the next week with the Screen Actors Guild, which has been on strike since July 14, then no new production will be able to start before 2024.

If that is the case, the studios further believe, then the fall television season is lost, and new movies won’t be able to come out until next summer. In this scenario, early November would be the drop-dead date to salvage any ability to put television or movies into production. Once the calendar hits Thanksgiving, it is unlikely any project would begin production, pushing off everything to the new year, this individual said, and killing the studios’ incentive to push for a deal.

All that puts significant pressure on the talks going on this week.

This was posted yesterday evening, after the meeting, basically saying they will meet again Friday(today)

One of the reasons why the Studios are saying if a deal dont get done this week, then it wont get done til next year is because hollywood shutdown for the remainder of the year around thanksgiving anyway.
 

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Can't studios just hire a bunch of brits and keep it moving?

I want the Dunk and Egg show by 2025:ufdup:

HBO has been filming GoT the whole time the strike has been going on because nearly the entire cast is in a different Union than SAG
 
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