Wow brehs... I'm reading about the DOGON tribe from the mountains Mali, untouched by white slavery.

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While the first and second maps are extremely silly and semi-psuedo science. Especially with trying to claim the Persians as "black." The last one I find most interesting. I would use it in discussions if it would lose some of the writings it has. But anyways I find it INTERESTING, because those groups listed in the map all claim they come from the Nile Valley area.

THERE ARE some good arguments that the Bantu migration could have happened from the Nile Valley, or that the Bantu migration was not "monolithic" and that there were different waves of it. One from the Nile Valley(ideally Sudan) and one from West-Central Africa. Bantus such as the Zulus, Bantu ethnics in Kenya and other Bantus claim migration from Nile Valley.
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Then we have the fact that E-M2 is in Upper Egypt but absent in Sudan.
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E-M2n to me is interesting because it is already present in Upper Egypt. people merely can not simply dismiss it as it being from the Bantu migration because one it came from the Green Sahara before there was any Bantu speakers.

Also I hear that there is good arguments that Egyptian hieroglyphs have Bantu like words.

But we can't make bold claims because for one oral tradition can be slippery sloppy and can get mixed in with stuff. For example some Bantu groups We can NOT deny the obvious movement of metal working farmers speaking Niger-Kordofanian languages (ancestors of Bantu people) from west central Africa into east and Southern Africa. If the maps I posted are true than again a Bantu migration from Nile Valley is NOT mutually exclusive.

What will solve this puzzle is full on autosomal DNA of the Ancient Egyptians. To me IF CERTAIN Bantu ethnics came from the Nile Valley it would most likely have been Central Sudan near the Kushyte empire.

If this is true it would represent a doomsday for Eurocentrics.

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Yes, its true that the Fulani always migrated back and forth between West and East. But I am not sure if they come from East Africa as their culture and Y-DNA does not hint that, but I do know for certain that they do come more northern. Hell so do the Soninke people who now live more southern use to live more north in Mauritania.

But if you're really interested to see which West African ethnic groups may come from the East, I have heard some convincing stuff that the Yoruba people of Nigeria may in fact come from the area of Nubia/Sudan... And their migration to West Africa may have been triggered by the invading hyksos.
Nigeria is a migrant land. Everyone came from somewhere else.
 

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True but due to influence by mostly muslim neighbouring ethnic groups since the 60's most Dogon are muslims now.

Sad..now their creativity is gone forever and they are now reduced to nothing more than mohummad praisers:mjcry:
 

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These brehs formed complex astrology in the mountains of Mali with NO modern technology...

According to their traditions, the star Sirius has a companion star which is invisible to the human eye. This companion star has a 50 year elliptical orbit around the visible Sirius and is extremely heavy. It also rotates on its axis.they made his discovery before modern science did, without any technology

This tribe is so mysterious and powerful that cac con piracy theorists like David Icke believe they made and currently make contact with Aliens... :wow:


Black people untouched by slavery do amazing things.



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Don't quote me word for word, but I'll listen to David Icke once in awhile...and I don't get into alien shiit at all...other than anything is possible and the public doesn't know everything.

Back to my point is that I think David Icke described this costume with the stilts as how the aliens looked to the Dogon people.
 

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Someone posted a picture of the Dogon wearing the weaving. Weaving and basketry are masculine activities. Weavers, who belong to all classes of society, work sometimes in wool, but especially in cotton. The looms are usually set up in the middle of the village or at crossroads.

Metalwork, woodwork, and leatherwork are performed by members of caste. The Iru, the smiths often inhabit special section at the edge of the village, where they live separately from the rest of the population. As artisans, they do not cultivate the earth, but manufacture all tools necessary for agriculture, as well as arms for hunting or fishing. A great number of ritual (in wood or metal) must be manufactured exclusively by the smith. In the past they were paid in kind for their labor. The smith occupies a separate, yet prominent place in society. Considered as civilizing mythical hero, he plays an important role in intitation.

Leatherwork is practiced by the caste of shoemakers (dam), who also live at the fringes of Dogon Society. They buy sheepskins and goatskin for tanning or sometimes for dyeing, and make them into satchels, belts, sandals, saddles, bracelets, etc.

Dogon society, complex at 1st glance, is in fact rigorously divided into numerous opposite and complementary social group; the masculine domain is opposite the feminine, the initiates are opposite the non-initiates, the different classes of age separate and distinct,etc. Thus it forms a complex system of different types of social relations, through which the respective statutes of its member are lived & expressed. On a larger scale, The Dogon, as farmers, are opposite the caste members (artisans, griots), with regard to whom they maintain exogamy, but with whom they live in a sort of symbiosis from a viewpoint of technical, economic, and religious complementarity.

Among the Dogon, as elsewhere, the social, political, and economic organizations are interdependent w/ the system of beliefs, this being in function of a general apphrension in their social life, of the supernatural world, the world of the living, and that of the ancestor. The establishment of settlement, the land regulations and everything that is connected with it are, of course, included in this unitary system one can neither buy nor sell land where an ancestor of the tribe, clan, or lineage has settled. Each one, according to this rank in the social hiearchy, has the right to develop a parcel of land of which he has temporary possession or usufruct and the allocation of which adheres to strict rules within the lineage at the time when its chief succeeds his deceased "brother" or father.
 
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