Wow, a Warriors fan said Draymond Green could guard Kareem

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Not a Warriors fan, just have an extreme appreciation for the team b/c they're one of the greatest I've ever seen and currently have a player with a peak greater than any point guard I've seen. I'm not a hating ass bytch like 70% of this forum (i.e WARRIORS LOST FREE DAPS/REPS!!!!) and will give props to anyone that plays at a level beyond my expectations. Draymond Green is a phenomenal player, literally one of the most unique this game has ever seen, and its a shame that so many fail to appreciate just how great he is.

And if you look back at the original thread, here http://www.thecoli.com/threads/magi...d-blow-out-the-current-warriors.400282/page-2, my initial point was that Kareem wouldn't have the advantage on the Warriors that so many seem to think. He would get exploited on the other end of the court when the team goes small and isn't gonna average 40-50 (actual predictions by people in that thread) against that strong of a defense. Saying that Green could guard him is not to say that he'd shut down Cap, but that he and the Warriors are equipped to defend him. Doesn't mean he still wouldn't have a very good series.



There is nothing disrespectful about this whatsoever. You are taking this to mean Cap would be shut down, I'm saying he'd have a guy assigned to him that would play great defense and have a supporting cast that would help with the assignment. Defending superstars is a TEAM concept, this is not a game of 1on1 basketball especially in the current era.



Green is gonna be a hall of famer. This doesn't make any sense. And since when has the basketball, not NBA, hall of fame meant shyt you see some of the guys in there?



Who said stop. You don't stop the greatest scorer in league history, this is about being in position to guard Kareem and doing all you can to make his job as difficult as possible. Fronting, being a brick wall as he's trying to establish post position, poking the ball away as he tries to dribble in the post and swarming him before the ball even gets there. Kareem was a very willing passer outside the post and the Lakers ran offense through him, you could make him give the ball up and thats what the Warriors would do. This isn't as unimaginable as ya'll make it seem



He could guard him period. Nobody said stop. Too many people in here thinking guarding somebody means you're about to shut them down or some shyt




You need the read the original thread rather than pull a quote months after the initial discussion.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/magic-said-his-lakers-would-blow-out-the-current-warriors.400282/



Its the exact opposite. All this focus of whether or not he could be the option 1 or 2 on a contender rather than his ability to be the best defender on a title winner + a strong offensive contributor makes him underrated. People hate this dude and its driving their opinions on him.
:wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:



This fakkit serious
 

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Not a Warriors fan, just have an extreme appreciation for the team b/c they're one of the greatest I've ever seen and currently have a player with a peak greater than any point guard I've seen. I'm not a hating ass bytch like 70% of this forum (i.e WARRIORS LOST FREE DAPS/REPS!!!!) and will give props to anyone that plays at a level beyond my expectations. Draymond Green is a phenomenal player, literally one of the most unique this game has ever seen, and its a shame that so many fail to appreciate just how great he is.

And if you look back at the original thread, here http://www.thecoli.com/threads/magi...d-blow-out-the-current-warriors.400282/page-2, my initial point was that Kareem wouldn't have the advantage on the Warriors that so many seem to think. He would get exploited on the other end of the court when the team goes small and isn't gonna average 40-50 (actual predictions by people in that thread) against that strong of a defense. Saying that Green could guard him is not to say that he'd shut down Cap, but that he and the Warriors are equipped to defend him. Doesn't mean he still wouldn't have a very good series.



There is nothing disrespectful about this whatsoever. You are taking this to mean Cap would be shut down, I'm saying he'd have a guy assigned to him that would play great defense and have a supporting cast that would help with the assignment. Defending superstars is a TEAM concept, this is not a game of 1on1 basketball especially in the current era.



Green is gonna be a hall of famer. This doesn't make any sense. And since when has the basketball, not NBA, hall of fame meant shyt you see some of the guys in there?



Who said stop. You don't stop the greatest scorer in league history, this is about being in position to guard Kareem and doing all you can to make his job as difficult as possible. Fronting, being a brick wall as he's trying to establish post position, poking the ball away as he tries to dribble in the post and swarming him before the ball even gets there. Kareem was a very willing passer outside the post and the Lakers ran offense through him, you could make him give the ball up and thats what the Warriors would do. This isn't as unimaginable as ya'll make it seem



He could guard him period. Nobody said stop. Too many people in here thinking guarding somebody means you're about to shut them down or some shyt




You need the read the original thread rather than pull a quote months after the initial discussion.
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/magic-said-his-lakers-would-blow-out-the-current-warriors.400282/



Its the exact opposite. All this focus of whether or not he could be the option 1 or 2 on a contender rather than his ability to be the best defender on a title winner + a strong offensive contributor makes him underrated. People hate this dude and its driving their opinions on him.

Technically, by your logic a guy in a wheelchair could guard Kareem.....so could Steph......so could Mugsy Bogues....but in each of those cases where those specific people are guarding him it'd be a ridiculous mismatch just like it'd be with Draymond.
 

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The three accolades I brought up all had to do with his ability to score on EVERYONE and ANYONE. Not to mention he was a great defensive player in his younger years.

Having the highest win total =/= isn't their peaks. :yeshrug:

I mean they had their best SRS (point differential + strength of schedule) and offensive success that year too. There's a lot more than just wins that suggests it was their best year, plus its Magic's best season as he took on a more assertive offensive role and lowered his usually terrible turnover rate to a more respectable level.

Yeah Kareem could score on anybody, but there are team concepts that you can use to make his job harder or force the ball out of his hands. Green would do his job as the primary defender by being a brick wall not ceeding post position, using his quick hands to create turnovers, helping to make routine post entry passes difficult while another Warrior would be in the vicinity prepared to give help.
 

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Technically, by your logic a guy in a wheelchair could guard Kareem.....so could Steph......so could Mugsy Bogues....but in each of those cases where those specific people are guarding him it'd be a ridiculous mismatch just like it'd be with Draymond.

I think we should be past the point where Green is knocked for his size. Like its directly due to his ability to defend the post at a high level that your teams small ball lineup is so dominant. They remain great defensively b/c he compensates for a lack of height so well, and has a team that can help him on tough assignments if need be.
 

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You just posted that Kareem was at his peak at 39 years old.

Good lord.
You might actually deserve a :ban:

Huh? No, I said the Lakers were at their peak when he was 39. Most wins, best offensive season, highest point differential. I'd say Kareem hit his peak in 1972 w/ the Bucks.
 

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:beli::beli::beli: You know I don't hate Golden State for what they are doing, cause it takes something truly special, but the straight bandwagon nonsensical fans are really making me hate this team. People acting like nothing existed before the 2015 Warriors straight annoying brehs.

Great team, but now I really want them to lose in the first round to Utah to shut up the band wagoners and their stupid ass owner
 

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"(i.e WARRIORS LOST FREE DAPS/REPS!!!!)"

are you serious every team that's in anyway in dominating fashion or has won before gets this shyt..on any sport

B/c people hate them. The better you become, the more people want to witness your fall.

I understand that. Its just dumb when hate disillusions people to the greatness that they're witnessing.
 

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B/c people hate them. The better you become, the more people want to witness your fall.

I understand that. Its just dumb when hate disillusions people to the greatness that they're witnessing.
Greatness we're witnessing? :mjlol:



I wish i could lose to the goddamn Timberwolves so I too can be great :banderas:
 

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Greatness we're witnessing? :mjlol:



I wish i could lose to the goddamn Timberwolves so I too can be great :banderas:

Did you read that post before hitting submit

This is exactly what I'm talking about
 

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B/c people hate them. The better you become, the more people want to witness your fall.

I understand that. Its just dumb when hate disillusions people to the greatness that they're witnessing.

breh you a joke monitor? cause in relation to this you coming off like one..especially on the coli you can acknowledge greatness and still joke on them, not mutually exclusive
 
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