Wow, a Warriors fan said Draymond Green could guard Kareem

Tommy Gibbs

Superstar
Joined
Oct 22, 2017
Messages
5,442
Reputation
1,028
Daps
14,398
Of course a 39 year old center could not defend pefimeter players, but at the same time, he's an automatic bucket at the other end. Aint no 6'7 player stopping Kareem in 87. I don't know how old you are, but you've got to be trolling. Once he gets that ball on the block, as soon as he puts it up in the air, before he jumps, it's already at 9 feet. Draymond, a great defender, wouldn't have a chance.
 
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
84,584
Reputation
9,195
Daps
228,672
Of course a 39 year old center could not defend pefimeter players, but at the same time, he's an automatic bucket at the other end. Aint no 6'7 player stopping Kareem in 87. I don't know how old you are, but you've got to be trolling. Once he gets that ball on the block, as soon as he puts it up in the air, before he jumps, it's already at 9 feet. Draymond, a great defender, wouldn't have a chance.
He wasn't an automatic bucket back then, and he wouldn't have been an automatic bucket in this scenario.

You're basically saying that a 39-year-old Cap is better than a 2022 Jokic (who Draymond had a lot of success defending in this playoffs when they matched up with one another). You don't really believe that, but if you do, well, there's no sense talking hoops with you.
 

Raw Lyrics

Sunset Park
Supporter
Joined
May 15, 2012
Messages
7,924
Reputation
2,841
Daps
29,816
Reppin
Brooklyn
how many 6'7 players guarded kareem in 86? I assure you Ralph Sampson and Hakeem were much harder to score over than a 6'7 power forward lol. Hey I may be wrong, but I seriously doubt it. Aint no 6'7 nikka stopping no 1986 Kareem. Stop this shyt!!!!


Look at what Kareem did to 6'7 Dr. J during that 1 on 1 game.


Straight annihilated the Doc. :mjcry:
 
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
84,584
Reputation
9,195
Daps
228,672
Look at what Kareem did to 6'7 Dr. J during that 1 on 1 game.


Straight annihilated the Doc. :mjcry:
That Clash of the Legends shyt? Really, nxgga? We're using a 1v1 contest that completely strips the element of 5v5 where there's help defenders and running up and down the court and using it to determine how a 39-year-old Cap would fare against the Warriors/Draymond?

:usure:
 

#1 pick

The Smart Negroes
Supporter
Joined
Jul 13, 2012
Messages
76,783
Reputation
11,212
Daps
197,738
Reppin
Lamb of God
In all fairness, Draymond isn't the defender he was from 2015-2020, now. He's mainly the same mentally but physically, he's not close to what he used to be.
 

Tommy Gibbs

Superstar
Joined
Oct 22, 2017
Messages
5,442
Reputation
1,028
Daps
14,398
He wasn't an automatic bucket back then, and he wouldn't have been an automatic bucket in this scenario.

You're basically saying that a 39-year-old Cap is better than a 2022 Jokic (who Draymond had a lot of success defending in this playoffs when they matched up with one another). You don't really believe that, but if you do, well, there's no sense talking hoops with you.
Jokic aint got a sky hook A 39 year old kareem is one year removed form finals mvp in 85. Jokic runs the point, shoots 3s, etc. If you can highlights of a 6'7 player guarding and shutting down kareem in 86 or 87, I will kindly STFU and say "you were right all along..". The thing is, I think I gave Draymond an inch. He's probably 6'6. So that's even worse. He's giving up 8 inches. And no he wasn't an automatic bucket then, I was referring to if a 6'6 player was guarding him on the block.
 

Tommy Gibbs

Superstar
Joined
Oct 22, 2017
Messages
5,442
Reputation
1,028
Daps
14,398
The right small bigs can do better than you would think.

6'9" skinny-ass Brian Grant guarded Shaq a lot in the 2000 WCF. 6'6" Chuck Hayes was probably the shortest center that guarded Shaq.

Ben Wallace was a beast but supposedly he's only 6'7" yet he could guard anyone.

Dennis Rodman matched up with most of the bigs of the 1990s and he was barely 200lbs and maybe just 6'7".

Dave Cowens used to guard Kareem at just 6'8".

6'7" Wes Unseld would guard Kareem and before that Wilt too.

images


DzuPK1VX4AIWjQz.jpg


images


images


images


images
horrible example because in 74, Cowens basically said they COULD NOT STOP kareem . They basically said late in the series, they'd send doubles at him and make his teammates step up. And he still dominated that series. I didn't say it, COWENS SAID IT!!!. You're only proving me right with this post. hahah. And that's a prime kareem. With the lakers, as they plyaed other teams with 3 and 4 hall of famers, they couldn't double him. Had the celtics not doubed him in 74, that's another title. Kareem in the 70s was so dominant, they got tired of giving him the mvp award and decided to spread it around.
 

KidJSoul

Veteran
Joined
Oct 26, 2014
Messages
18,022
Reputation
3,280
Daps
78,662
horrible example because in 74, Cowens basically said they COULD NOT STOP kareem . They basically said late in the series, they'd send doubles at him and make his teammates step up. And he still dominated that series. I didn't say it, COWENS SAID IT!!!. You're only proving me right with this post. hahah. And that's a prime kareem. With the lakers, as they plyaed other teams with 3 and 4 hall of famers, they couldn't double him. Had the celtics not doubed him in 74, that's another title. Kareem in the 70s was so dominant, they got tired of giving him the mvp award and decided to spread it around.
Cownes outplayed Kareem in that series
 

horizon

Veteran
Joined
May 11, 2015
Messages
13,909
Reputation
6,799
Daps
64,973
Whether or not Draymond could guard a 39 year old KAJ is not even a discussion worth having
 
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
84,584
Reputation
9,195
Daps
228,672
Jokic aint got a sky hook A 39 year old kareem is one year removed form finals mvp in 85. Jokic runs the point, shoots 3s, etc. If you can highlights of a 6'7 player guarding and shutting down kareem in 86 or 87, I will kindly STFU and say "you were right all along..". The thing is, I think I gave Draymond an inch. He's probably 6'6. So that's even worse. He's giving up 8 inches. And no he wasn't an automatic bucket then, I was referring to if a 6'6 player was guarding him on the block.
Jokic's size, age and post moves in 2022 > whatever magical ability you think Cap had at 39.

And why does your simple ass keep reducing this down to some 1v1 matchup, as if the Warriors won't provide help when necessary? Why automatically assume that a 39-year-old version will even have the energy to dominate down low when he's being tortured on the perimeter at the other end of the floor? Why assume that Pat won't cut Cap's minutes right down and play someone with more versatility on the defensive end?
Whether or not Draymond could guard a 39 year old KAJ is not even a discussion worth having
It's really not, but leave it to these [fake] old heads to string this shyt out for all these years. They can't let their comic book heroes die coming up against a player that they clown at every turn.

:hubie:
 

Professor Emeritus

Veteran
Poster of the Year
Supporter
Joined
Jan 5, 2015
Messages
51,330
Reputation
19,666
Daps
203,878
Reppin
the ether
horrible example because in 74, Cowens basically said they COULD NOT STOP kareem . They basically said late in the series, they'd send doubles at him and make his teammates step up. And he still dominated that series. I didn't say it, COWENS SAID IT!!!. You're only proving me right with this post. hahah. And that's a prime kareem. With the lakers, as they plyaed other teams with 3 and 4 hall of famers, they couldn't double him. Had the celtics not doubed him in 74, that's another title. Kareem in the 70s was so dominant, they got tired of giving him the mvp award and decided to spread it around.


Were you trying to prove me right? I said Unseld, not Cowens, but you just threw in a great example. Cowens was 6'9" and wasn't a fraction of the defender that Draymond is, and Boston still won the series. You say they were doubling Kareem but the only player on the court for Boston over 6'6" was 6'7" Paul Silas.

So even prime Kareem could be beaten in a series defended by a 6'9" white guy with help from even shorter white guys. And we're not talking prime Kareem, we're talking THIRTEEN years later when he was 39 years old.

Also, it wasn't that hard to double the 1987 Lakers. Their top-7 were Magic, Cooper, Worthy, Scott, Kareem, Thompson, and A.C. Green. They aren't like the Warriors who are going to splash a three on you the moment you double anyone.
 
Top