Would You Rather Be A WWE Midcarder or Indie Main Eventer?

[MrSinnister]

Just to wrap up the earlier debate (I try to avoid them because I know I accumulated heat from my natural ability to get W's, because I stay prepared and not emotional), but if Stephanie's contract don't mean shyt, give me some Divas that make more than she does base salary then.

We have those that make more than her executive husband. Find me Divas that eclipse Stephanie, and I'll leave it alone.

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Unless your the top guy Vince hand picks, all being with the E does is hurt your brand, body, and finances.

Do it for say 3 years in the E and then leave. Go back to the indies, where your name/brand will be bigger then before you left, hence getting more $$$ in from both domestic and international dates.

 

[MrSinnister]

He just became an executive breh, Stephanie been an executive/stockholder since birth.

Are you confused why their talent contracts are so far apart in range?

I'm not confused at all. This seems like a very artificial argument. You all are telling me that her contract means nothing. And I'm proving it does. Her actual compensation is UNKNOWN, so why does she have the contract?

Giving me a headache with this need to argue shyt that springs up around here. Note that I was right in this the entire time to. I was comparing her contract, rightfully, with the other talent, many of those making visibly lower at the time that contract list was made.

Then I was told it didn't matter, and I proved it did lol.

 

[Silkk]

I'm not confused at all. This seems like a very artificial argument. You all are telling me that her contract means nothing. And I'm proving it does. Her actual compensation is UNKNOWN, so why does she have the contract?

Giving me a headache with this need to argue shyt that springs up around here.

I'm not arguing, i don't even know what you're trying to understand.

Why would she not have a contract?

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Well this is completely false

They took the title off ziggler directly because he earned money independent of them last year before the rumble. Look at how they remove or under supply someone's merchandise when it starts outselling their top guy. I don't doubt for a minute that what punk said about them nixing his sponsors and trying to get Sheamus on the cover of the game instead of him was on point either. Vince operates like a pimp. That means he wants to make sure you can only succeed if he hand picks you and he's going to make sure that the people he doesn't are doing poorly in order to keep everyone in line through fear and desperation.

 

[Lo-Co]

Not to mention WWE pays for any surgeries, downside guarantee if you're injured, and you don't have to negotiate your pay 100-200 times a year

Definitely. Whatever is the most secure deal. I'd feel a bit shaky towards Indies. I'd think Maybe for indies theres a possibility of show getting canceled last minute or stiffed out of pay.

 

[2CT]

gimmie the mid card, they can bury me all they want but i'd be a dope wrestler so the fans would side with me on some shyt

plus i'm black so it's not like i'd have much of a choice anyway

 

[MrSinnister]

I'm not arguing, i don't even know what you're trying to understand.

Why would she not have a contract?

Because she's an executive, as you all say. Executives work directly for the company. You don't get yearly contracts at work . She gets them as a talent. Paul likely has extra incentives, for being an executive, baked into his contract. He has a hybrid one. Stephanie has a basic one.

It serves as a comparison to the rest of the talent in her tier. It's not irrelevant, or it would be nonexistent.

 

[Silkk]

They took the title off ziggler directly because he earned money independent of them last year before the rumble. Look at how they remove or under supply someone's merchandise when it starts outselling their top guy. I don't doubt for a minute that what punk said about them nixing his sponsors and trying to get Sheamus on the cover of the game instead of him was on point either. Vince operates like a pimp. That means he wants to make sure you can only succeed if he hand picks you and he's going to make sure that the people he doesn't are doing poorly in order to keep everyone in line through fear and desperation.

Yeah he definitely fukks over people, but he pays them more than anyone else does otherwise suckas wouldn't be so quick to come back.

Punk said he thought he was coming back, but nobody called him(phone works both ways)and then HHH canned his ass. It wasn't the money.

 

[Silkk]

Because she's an executive, as you all say. Executives work directly for the company. You don't get yearly contracts at work . She gets them as a talent. Paul likely has extra incentives, for being an executive, baked into his contract. He has a hybrid one. Stephanie has a basic ine.

Are you not understanding they have an on air talent contract IN ADDITION to their executive contracts fam???

 

[MrSinnister]

Are you not understanding they have an on air talent contract IN ADDITION to their executive contracts fam???

I've been talking about Stephanie's on air contract THE ENTIRE TIME. WTF? On air..on air..on air.

I was told it was irrelevant. Dayum bra. The meaning of her ON AIR ON AIR ON AIR ON AIR, contract compared to other talent. Jesus fukking Christ. It does matter fukk.

 

[MrSinnister]

She's a Class A stockholder and executive that only does one show a week. She's not relevant to this conversation

Is her ON AIR contract not relevant?

Hunter got paid a mil, because of his legacy, for his ON AIR contract, which is 3 times Steph's. What about her legacy lmao?



Ya'll try to hard to nut clip and shoot yourselves into works.

 

[Silkk]

I've been talking about Stephanie's on air contract THE ENTIRE TIME. WTF? On air..on air..on air.

I was told it was irrelevant. Dayum bra. The meaning of her ON AIR ON AIR ON AIR ON AIR, contract compared to other talent. Jesus fukking Christ. It does matter fukk.

I said many posts ago, that the contracts of Vince, Steph, & HHH are irrelevant to the rest of the roster. They MAKE the rules.

You need to go grab you a cigarette or something

 

[MrSinnister]

I said many posts ago, that the contracts of Vince, Steph, & HHH are irrelevant to the rest of the roster. They MAKE the rules.

You need to go grab you a cigarette or something

Nah, it's not irrelevant for Steph, but a comparison or why even have the contracts lmao. Yes, it's not a grade on them, but it's a marker for the other talent. It's what I've been implying and saying.

Their judgements of themselves and worth is irrelevant, but not the fukking contracts. This ain't hard to understand, if you stop trying to make me look stupid.

Again, the comment that started this bulls hit debate was my lighthearted "damn, if Stephanie getting 350K in 2013, I wonder about the other midcarders". That's it. I wasn't giving a value assessment..just how they tiered ON AIR compensation.

 

[dh86]

Is her ON AIR contract not relevant?

Hunter got paid a mil, because of his legacy, for his ON AIR contract, which is 3 times Steph's. What about her legacy lmao?



Ya'll try to hard to nut clip and shoot yourselves into works.

HHH is a wrestler, that wrestles a couple of matches per year. Undertaker gets the same downside for his sporadic matches. Stephanie doesn't wrestle, she's more akin to Teddy Long and Vickie Guerrero