Would Pac & Big be as irrelevant in 2008 the same way Wayne is irrelevant right now?

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No reason. I think he'd lean towards business more than acting or entertaining. Probably would have had to pull away from Puff.
Thats why I'm kinda wondering about it because Puff has some vampire tendencies. Biggie was charismatic enough to stand on his own tho. It would have been interesting
 

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Putting T.I. in the same light as The Game is crazy. T.I. started a whole sound, nikkas my age actually know TI songs lmao nobody care about Game. Game only sold units because of G Unit and then his former affiliation with the Unit. He was never popping on his own two like that well not on no TI level
True. And he barely has any hits.
 

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A similar question I asked on multiple forums before.

What is Nas was killed before the release of IWW?

We would have never got Nastradamus and his run of average albums. He's got a few classics, and I think IWW is a classic too, but death sometimes places artists on levels that living wouldn't have. If Nas was killed before the release of IWW, every New Yorker, including Jay Z, would swear he's the best ever off 2 albums. It's how life works.
 

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Pac and Big death helped the south more than anything..

OutKast and Goodie Mob success would still been there

But cash money and no limit success wouldn’t have blew up because the media would have still been on biggie and pac building death row east and bringing in up and coming New York artists
 

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Legends on their level are always relevant.

Nas or Jay don't have to drop another album for 7-8 years. Or ever again. They'd still be "relevant" because they've already dropped mad classics. That's what being a legend affords you. Relevancy is only something bum rappers and newcomers have to worry about. If your catalogue is GOAT level sh*t, you're good forever.
 

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Stop it. There is no "clearly" in anything said in the OP. The only way for there to be a realistic scenario were Pac and Biggie are still alive after 97 is if they both survived their inevitable shootings. There is no scenario with Orlando getting stomped and their being no retaliation. Pac was going to get shot that night.
:mjlol: the scenario is CLEARLY not getting shot at all

not, pac got shot but survived it
 

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:mjlol: the scenario is CLEARLY not getting shot at all

not, pac got shot but survived it
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The scenario is CLEARLY not what you said because OP never said that.

The reality of Pac being handicapped if he had survived that shooting seems to bother most of y'all I'm noticing.
 

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Troll thread, obviously

Wayne is a pop culture icon at this point on top of still being a current draw musically. Still coveted for major placements, still drawing thousands on tour, and still capable of dropping major release albums (C6 will easily be a 100k first week release)…to call him irrelevant is patently false.

Best way to estimate how Big and Pac would be perceived is to look at their peers. Dre, Snoop, Puff, Jay hell even Mase now are very relevant figures…no reason to think they wouldn’t have comparable trajectories…Pac was a legitimately talented actor, I honestly wouldn’t be shocked if he were an A-Lister in Hollywood at this point given his talent and charisma
 

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Pac would be an actor, as many others have said

Something else would've killed Biggie. I think he would've kept gaining weight and gone out the way Big Pun did. No way would he have lost any weight.

he was 395 pounds when he died.
 
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