Would Pac & Big be as irrelevant in 2008 the same way Wayne is irrelevant right now?

[papertrail08]

It went gold and you’re acting like he TI status

At this point, he doesn’t need to sell more anyway.

Just had to bring up TIP, did you? Wayne is basically where T.I. was at in 2012-2014 and people were calling him irrelevant at that point despite Trouble Man going Gold

 

[Sad Bunny]

Just had to bring up TIP, did you? Wayne is basically where T.I. was at in 2012-2014 and people were calling him irrelevant at that point despite Trouble Man going Gold

I’m gonna be honest I really don’t care about this but if the Carter 6 flops then I’ll say he isn’t relevant. lol.

But from my point of view, he’s still very in demand for features and well respected

I feel like people forgot about TI and The Game and other titans of the 2000s.

Wayne is still in demand from old artists to new artists

 

[CHICAGO]

Pac had a lung removed and a finger shot off. Pac would be handicapped and his career halted had he survived that last shooting.

HES CLEARLY TALKING ABOUT
IF PAC AND BIG DIDN'T GET SHOT







​

 

[Plankton]

HES CLEARLY TALKING ABOUT
IF PAC AND BIG DIDN'T GET SHOT







​

Stop it. There is no "clearly" in anything said in the OP. The only way for there to be a realistic scenario were Pac and Biggie are still alive after 97 is if they both survived their inevitable shootings. There is no scenario with Orlando getting stomped and their being no retaliation. Pac was going to get shot that night.

 

[papertrail08]

I’m gonna be honest I really don’t care about this but if the Carter 6 flops then I’ll say he isn’t relevant. lol.

But from my point of view, he’s still very in demand for features and well respected

I feel like people forgot about TI and The Game and other titans of the 2000s.

Wayne is still in demand from old artists to new artists

Nobody ain't forgot about Tip Game only had one hot album in 2005 and it was downhill from there. Wayne is lucky he had Drake and Nicki.

 

[Capitol]

Pac would have gone into movies. Kind of a Jamie Foxx/Snoop hybrid.

Biggie? Something like Jay Z. He'd be a mogul sitting courtside at Knicks games.

Why do you think Biggie would be a mogul

 

[qnsfinest]

Pac 100% would of probably retired by late 90’s and went into movies and tv full time. Probably dabbled a little here and there in music.

Biggie would definitely have multiple classics by now. But to say he would be a mogul like jay is a huge stretch, you’re assuming biggie would of married a global superstar like Beyonce and reached that status.

 

[Sad Bunny]

Nobody ain't forgot about Tip Game only had one hot album in 2005 and it was downhill from there. Wayne is lucky he had Drake and Nicki.

They are lucky they had Lil Wayne.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Why do you think Biggie would be a mogul

No reason. I think he'd lean towards business more than acting or entertaining. Probably would have had to pull away from Puff.

 

[Primetime21]

Nobody knows.

 

[Primetime21]

Double

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

480K when the previous 2 did 1 Million (or close to it in IV's case). What about his albums after that? Nobody is checking for Wayne like that anymore

480k is a lot gang lol

 

[Stick Up Kid]

Wayne been irrelevant for a good 5+ years and his music has aged horrendously

Imagine listening to Mrs Officer, Lollipop & Hot Girl in 2024

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

I’m gonna be honest I really don’t care about this but if the Carter 6 flops then I’ll say he isn’t relevant. lol.

But from my point of view, he’s still very in demand for features and well respected

I feel like people forgot about TI and The Game and other titans of the 2000s.

Wayne is still in demand from old artists to new artists

Putting T.I. in the same light as The Game is crazy. T.I. started a whole sound, nikkas my age actually know TI songs lmao nobody care about Game. Game only sold units because of G Unit and then his former affiliation with the Unit. He was never popping on his own two like that well not on no TI level

 

[7th Letter Specialist]

Let’s say Pac went to Atlanta in Sept 96
And biggie went to UK March 97

Diddy possibly gets killed in La
Suge doesn’t go to prison for 7 years
Pac and Big reconcile makes first watch the throne This would be dope
Flashy bling bling era probably doesn’t happen this was inevitable. Both were on that time as well
No limit and 2pac link up cash money probably don’t end up as big
Dmx Jay ja rule careers probably aren’t the same I actually think Pac would've fw Ja and made hella hits together. I actually think Pac would've sided w/ Ja of they were tight when 50 and him beefed
Suge is still free who knows if Eminem gets
signed
50 cent probably beefs with biggie lol this wouldve been dope ASF. Throw Jay in there as well
Kanye probably doesn’t get the shine because Jayz career isn’t the same I think Jay shyt would've been the same regardless. I think Jay and big would've ended up beefing eventually
Jay crashes out in 2003 either goes to prison or dies
2005-2008 bro what? Lmao
Hardcore rap still going hard
Pac in movies, politics married to Jada lol I think Jada would've still married will. He just would've replaced August
Biggie took Jay Z spot
No Kanye , drake, SoundCloud era etc nah. This was going to happen regardless just due to technology alone. It wouldn't have been Drake, it would've been someone else. Drake would be an career indie artist who w/ a cult following, being in the convo for one of the best underground artists. He's just too polarizing.

A lot could have changed if they survived