Women on IG say they do NOT like men with big muscles.

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Money is the ultimate winner. Hence why you see fat slobs with 10's. Anyone can go to some cheap gym and watch their weight, few can provide stability through money.
Not arguing with you over this stupid debate.

About 20% of men make six figures or more in this country.

Are women only choosing them? Women are not a monolith that can only like one thing.

Women typically want their man making just as much or more than what they do. He does not have to be a millionaire.
 

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I thought it was an open secret that most celebs get on gear for their roles? I mean, it’s obvious if you workout regularly. These dudes get years of results in 3-6 month pre-production periods. It’s impossible even with a perfect diet, working out like a maniacally, etc. to get the physique these dudes be having in 6 months or even a year. It’s impossible to go from MBJ physique pre-Creed to his physique in Creed without help. There's just not enough time to build that kind of muscle. I’m not even mad at the game. Hell, I’d probably be on clen or whatever too if it was a multi million dollar decision.

This is from 02/01/2014:

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Filming started on Creed on 01/19/2015, so you’re talking 11 months.

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Again, no hate. I enjoy talking about the limits of the human body. Y’all really think this is possible in 11 months? This is just one example.
They don’t know anything about fitness, how much muscle one can gain naturally given a certain time frame etc.
 

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It's rare to see a natural bodybuilder or fitness enthusiast close to their genetic muscular potential gain more than 2-3 pounds of lean muscle in a year. This is why it's an accomplishment when experienced bodybuilders manage to gain 7-10 pounds of fat-free muscle in a year. Newbies gains are plenty real, but very delusional. Losing fat naturally makes you look more ripped, but 20lbs of muscle? I feel like neophytes simply don't know what 20 pounds of raw muscle looks like. You'd look like a beast....I.e. Hugh Jackman for wolverine. He has all the markers for tren, I'm not gonna dive in on the Rock since he's a walking Anavar commercial. You don't have to believe me, just do the research on every site, from bodybuilding.com to youtube/google, or shoot an email to a doctor.

Can you blow up in a year? Oh yeah, but you're gonna have a little gut/fat and or look "fluffy" ala a lot of NFL quarterbacks, even then....they're taking. Remember when people thought Mark Maguire was some physical freak? That's a guy who put on 10lbs of muscle....just 10, in a short time, and you can see how big he got. 20lbs of muscle is massive, and only achievable via gear. Genetic gods like Eugene Sandow were ripped before steroids, but again, he was naturally lean.
Dude said 20 lbs of muscle in a year naturally. :laff::laff::laff:

You can be on every drug possible and you still WON’T put in 20 lbs of muscle in a year.

Man these guys really don’t know anything.
 
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I didn't say his physique wasn't attainable naturally. :mjlol:

It's the timeframe he was given, whereas it would take someone several years naturally, MBJ had like a year.

Again, proof you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to fitness, drugs etc.

Never said I was informed on drug use or all things fitness. All I do is talk about MY experiences and what has worked for me.
 
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None of what you typed matters to me. If you look good, you get play.

And what I'm saying is the richer or more famous a man is the better he looks to a woman.

Where do you think Mike Jones line "back then hoes didn't want me, now I'm hot hoes all on me" comes from? Women will perceive a man with high status as better looking.
 

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And what I'm saying is the richer or more famous a man is the better he looks to a woman.

Where do you think Mike Jones line "back then hoes didn't want me, now I'm hot hoes all on me" comes from? Women will perceive a man with high status as better looking.

Not to me and there are plenty of other women who don't care about that.

Mike's verse was about women being fake. They will never perceive him as better looking just because he has money. He simply became a meal ticket.
 

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I thought it was an open secret that most celebs get on gear for their roles? I mean, it’s obvious if you workout regularly. These dudes get years of results in 3-6 month pre-production periods. It’s impossible even with a perfect diet, working out like a maniacally, etc. to get the physique these dudes be having in 6 months or even a year. It’s impossible to go from MBJ physique pre-Creed to his physique in Creed without help. There's just not enough time to build that kind of muscle. I’m not even mad at the game. Hell, I’d probably be on clen or whatever too if it was a multi million dollar decision.

This is from 02/01/2014:

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Filming started on Creed on 01/19/2015, so you’re talking 11 months.

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Again, no hate. I enjoy talking about the limits of the human body. Y’all really think this is possible in 11 months? This is just one example.

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11 months is a long time. Looking at his pre-creed physique, he was already somewhat on the “fit” side of average. That seems achievable in 11 months.
 
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Dude said 20 lbs of muscle in a year naturally. :laff::laff::laff:

You can be on every drug possible and you still WON’T put in 20 lbs of muscle in a year.

Man these guys really don’t know anything.

Then explain how my weight on the scale can go up 15 lbs and when I look in the mirror I'm leaner than I was before?

I started bulking last year at around 150 lbs. I'm now consistently weighing in at 165 lbs. I look at the mirror and I look leaner than I was at 150 lbs. How else am I supposed to interpret this?

Sure there's glycogen and water weight that fills up the muscle to make it look bigger. But there was glycogen and water weight in the muscles when I was 150 lbs as well.
 

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I thought it was an open secret that most celebs get on gear for their roles? I mean, it’s obvious if you workout regularly. These dudes get years of results in 3-6 month pre-production periods. It’s impossible even with a perfect diet, working out like a maniacally, etc. to get the physique these dudes be having in 6 months or even a year. It’s impossible to go from MBJ physique pre-Creed to his physique in Creed without help. There's just not enough time to build that kind of muscle. I’m not even mad at the game. Hell, I’d probably be on clen or whatever too if it was a multi million dollar decision.

This is from 02/01/2014:

3e2QvSiXW0wPhP_2I8B7coY-AvPjqLmYdvXcG3UQiFNhOw00M0uK1zxSvPVq4nM3cCHxZTeAciYB5DAPBbH_aOKXBXDWh4PIp-cgztNqb9PpV4evBlXvHgm0YMhYWUhvE2hwNXP-Tv1LbPEFcYkMwxZ78DumQDR3ikDgRRVNMaqwS17lTSGRQFj4sEQcU7Y3hvZNr73wc9BUJSw_zqytobOFN5O2yQ



Filming started on Creed on 01/19/2015, so you’re talking 11 months.

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Again, no hate. I enjoy talking about the limits of the human body. Y’all really think this is possible in 11 months? This is just one example.
Not hard to do at all if you have the genetics for it. I’m one of those cats that can get in amazing shape quickly. I’ve gone weeks / months without working out and have always been able to get it back within a couple days / weeks.
 

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11 months is a long time. Looking at his pre-creed physique, he was already somewhat on the “fit” side of average. That seems achievable in 11 months.

He wasn't fat to begin with. That's not the issue. It's that he gained substantial lean mass in 11 months and lowered his body fat percentage as well. It's not possible to get that much bigger and put on no fat in 11 months. Hell, it's not possible to gain that much lean muscle naturally in 11 months to begin with. If he had three-four years? Yeah. But, these actors only have months to get ready for roles, so they do what they have to with the gear.
 
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Not to me and there are plenty of other women who don't care about that.

Mike's verse was about women being fake. They will never perceive him as better looking just because he has money. He simply became a meal ticket.

Once again, experiments have been done on this phenomenon. Scientists give women pictures of men and tell them to rate how attractive they are. Then they give them the same pictures but this time include their income and tell them to rate their attractiveness. The men with the highest incomes see their attractiveness score increase. Now this doesn't mean the women will rate the richest men as being the most attractive. Instead what it shows is that if you are rich women will naturally rate you as being more attractive than if they thought you were broke.

You might not even be consciously aware of it but when you look at The Rock, for example, you are giving him a bump in terms of his attractiveness based on the fact he's rich and famous. Its simply biology that women can't escape. Your genetics have programmed you to desire the highest status males in the society. Its in the DNA.
 

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They don’t know anything about fitness, how much muscle one can gain naturally given a certain time frame etc.
Of course most don't know about fitness when every single movie, movie star, new celeb mom, fitness mag, fitness guru and personal trainer tells you "Man I got a nutritionist to move in, and trained 8 hours every day for 6 months, and tahhhh dahhhh" or "get that six pack back in 8 weeks" or "i had to bulk up during the offseason so it was all steak and potatoes and my 150,000 dollar trainer"


The only reason I even know something is off, is because UFC... Because I weigh 20 pounds more than Khabib but I'm 1 inch taller and he's definitely 8 times bigger than me. I'm like Chris Rock in build. Skinny to avg... And yet I can lose 20 pounds and somehow still come out bigger and stronger than I ever was in life.... That told me something bout all this muscle gain/loss wasn't as simple as they say
 

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Not hard to do at all if you have the genetics for it. I’m one of those cats that can get in amazing shape quickly. I’ve gone weeks / months without working out and have always been able to get it back within a couple days / weeks.


You've been working out for years, though. Your body has "muscle memory," so it will be easier for you. It’s like how boxers can get in great shape in 6 weeks after being :flabbynsick:. Obviously, a component of it is boxing training is extremely grueling, but another is that professional boxers have been training since they were kids and they’ve been in great shape before, so their body responds accordingly. MBJ was never in that kind of shape in his life until that movie.
 
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