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Michael B Jordan wasn't natural.. at least not for Creed 2.

There's a pic of him with gyno, and every time he finishes filming a role he shrinks down hella fast.

Signs of steroid use.

Didn't know that. Its unfortunate cause his physique is my goal physique. I still believe its attainable naturally even if he didn't do it as a natural.
 

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Hugh Jackman is one of the most obvious steriod users in Hollywood. The fact you are defending him lets me know jow delusional you are.

Just think of it this way. If a guy has more muscle mass and is leaner than world class athletes, how likely is he to be natural? Athletes are paid to be in shape. In sports like football the more muscle you have the stronger you are and better you can be in your sport. If NFL players can't get as jacked and ripped as these movie stars, shouldn't that tell you these guys are doing steriods? Or do you think Hugh Jackman is more gifted when it comes to building lean muscle than pro athletes?

Whats obvious about it? In the first wolverine he was barely built,

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three years later he added bulk

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after that he leaned down to really have that shredded look. People are acting as if he did this within a few months
 

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He looks like an upside down Dorito chip. Upper body just wayyy too wide, would definitely not be my preference but to each their own.
It's just the picture, if you check out his IG he has well built legs too. pause.
 

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Didn't know that. Its unfortunate cause his physique is my goal physique. I still believe its attainable naturally even if he didn't do it as a natural.
I didn't say his physique wasn't attainable naturally. :mjlol:

It's the timeframe he was given, whereas it would take someone several years naturally, MBJ had like a year.

Again, proof you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to fitness, drugs etc.
 

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Whats obvious about it? In the first wolverine he was barely built,

rs-183028-159831583.jpg


three years later he added bulk

film_feature-3193.jpeg


after that he leaned down to really have that shredded look. People are acting as if he did this within a few months
Naw hugh jackman definitely juiced.

He had very poor average genetics, and out of nowhere he blew up in size while getting leaner.

You cannot put on muscle and get leaner at the same time naturally.

You do not go from the picture you posted to this (while in your 40s when your testosterone levels are going down)

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Whats obvious about it? In the first wolverine he was barely built,

rs-183028-159831583.jpg


three years later he added bulk

film_feature-3193.jpeg


after that he leaned down to really have that shredded look. People are acting as if he did this within a few months

He was natural in the first movie. Then started using steriods.

You picked a less than flaterring picture there. There are others where he looks roided out his mind.

Hugh Jackman ain't even worth debating. He's one of the most obvious steriod abusers in Hollywood. There are breakdowns of his unnatural gains all over YouTube. Go watch them.
 

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Naw hugh jackman definitely juiced.

He had very poor average genetics, and out of nowhere he blew up in size while getting leaner.

You cannot put on muscle and get leaner at the same time naturally.

You do not go from the picture you posted to this (while in your 40s when your testosterone levels are going down)

wolverine-workout-body-300x298.jpg

You posted a picture from a movie that came out in 2013 to compare to the picture I posted from 2003 and 2006....
 

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You posted a picture from a movie that came out in 2013 to compare to the picture I posted from 2003 and 2006....
So..?

Hugh Jackman is currently 52 years old.

In 2013 he was 46 years old (decreased levels of testosterone and clearly not in his physical prime).

In 2006 he was 39 years old. If that's the best he could do at 39 (pics you posted), that was his natural limit.

I don't care what your diet is or how hard you train, you don't go from looking that average at 39, to a beast at 46. Not with out steroids.
 

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So..?

Hugh Jackman is currently 52 years old.

In 2013 he was 46 years old (decreased levels of testosterone and clearly not in his physical prime).

In 2006 he was 39 years old. If that's the best he could do at 39 (pics you posted), that was his natural limit.

I don't care what your diet is or how hard you train, you don't go from looking that average at 39, to a beast at 46. Not with out steroids.

We can agree to disagree (same to @Swagnificent) . Im not saying he did or didn't use but its very attainable without it. I've been in the fitness field since 2006 (pics in the gym subforum) and I know plenty of mid 40 to 50 year olds that are still strong and lean.
 
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