WOATmore Must Die! [2017 Atlanta Hawks Offseason Thread]
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Man we had two all star big men and lost them both for nothing. This is legit a fireable offense
AVXL
Laughing at you n*ggaz like “ha ha ha”
You my dawg and all but how could you be cool with our net gain from losing the best roster in team history being only Prince and a 2019 protected first round pick from CLE? Poor trades, poor management & outright stubbornness have completely destroyed a 60 win roster in less than 3 years and we really got nothing back in return. I'm pissed af about what's been going on
staticshock
Veteran
Bud dont need a excuse to drink he stay on the sauce
Rickdogg44
RIP Charmander RIP Kobe
Or our owner/GM could not be cheap and have kept DMC...and then not be cheap with Clapaveli and Trill
AVXL
Laughing at you n*ggaz like “ha ha ha”
Or our owner/GM could not be cheap and have kept DMC...and then not be cheap with Clapaveli and Trill
Just about every personnel decision this team has made in the past 3 offseasons has been questionable. Granted the ownership group was different when DMC went to TOR, but to your point they should've had a better strategy in place even if it meant trading these guys midseason to get some assets back
Atlanta 80s baby
Pro
Ya'll crying about that overrated 2014 team. Miami lost Wade, Lebron, Deng, and Bosh for absolutely nothing. They didn't cry about it and got to work, and now are in position to sign key free agents.
Schlenk has a plan and we have to see how it unfolds. There are 14-15 high school aged prospects projected in the top 20 in the 2018 draft. Secure your own top 10 pick and hopefully the Minny pick lands to the mid teens but most likely low 20s. These next two drafts are good to have multiple picks. We will develop these future and current prospects with a big sack of money to work with. We will feel much better when the Gazemore money is off the books.
Schlenk has a plan and we have to see how it unfolds. There are 14-15 high school aged prospects projected in the top 20 in the 2018 draft. Secure your own top 10 pick and hopefully the Minny pick lands to the mid teens but most likely low 20s. These next two drafts are good to have multiple picks. We will develop these future and current prospects with a big sack of money to work with. We will feel much better when the Gazemore money is off the books.
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Danny Ferry did a great job.
I think he should be the Wizards next GM with his local DC ties and his pops being the Bullets GM back int he day.
I think he should be the Wizards next GM with his local DC ties and his pops being the Bullets GM back int he day.
AVXL
Laughing at you n*ggaz like “ha ha ha”
A couple things with the Miami comparison: 1. Miami is and always has been a FA destination. Atlanta has never been that way. So Miami can bank on being more of a player in FA (because of it being Miami, having a stable ownership group, having a championship culture and Pat Riley as a GM.) than Atlanta can. They can lose Wade, Bron, Bosh (he really shouldn't be included because of his medical situation) and can still rebuild & attract new talent because of the reasons I outlined. There is no championship culture here, we have a new-ish owner and a new GM. So you can't give the Hawks the same benefit of the doubt you'd give the Heat. With that said, the Hawks (I assume) are getting to work and trying to rebuild the roster
With that said I am irritated that the team didn't get any real assets from the best team in Hawks history
I knew I should've included a qualifier
I'm cool, considering the circumstances.
Let me break it down
Horford - I'm not mad at letting him walk (plus you dont like him anyways)
Sap - I'm torn. We were actually playing good last year when the trade rumors were swirling, the ideal thing was to get something for him, but oh well.
Carroll - No Way we were going to pay him
Korver - Got the Cleveland pick
Teague - Got Prince out of him
We got something for 2 of the 5. Like I said we probably should've moved Sap but we stood pat and kept competing for the playoffs.Most of these front offices know what they're doing. When it comes to these guys they know the medical issues, personal background, locker room personality, potential playing ability etc. Whatever we think we know in regards to trade value and what believe we should get is probably wrong, plain and simple. You're rarely getting equal value in a trade in the NBA
It's 2017.
(1) it's hard to pay and keep teams together (why pay to keep a tread milling one?)
(2) All them nikkas were going to 30+ with big money, nobody in this league will keep a starting 5 that old
(3) We saw as early as 2014-15 that Schro had starter's potential, plus IIRC prior to that season in that German magazine interview he said he wanted to be a starter or he'd leave
(4) see #1
You can't view transactions and team building in a vacuum, it takes time...
I keep using the Braves as the example. We turned Jason Heyward into two franchise cornerstones in Ender and Dansby. But remember, we traded Heyward to STL for Shelby Miller THEN moved Miller on to Arizona for the guys I mentioned. Two separate trades. Hell, all those moves from 2014 Braves offseason looked bad in a vacuum. You like grades, we won EVERY, SINGLE TRADE, A+