WOATmore Must Die! [2017 Atlanta Hawks Offseason Thread]

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Kobe was upset cause Dwight is a goofy ass dude. That's her personality you cant be mad at that..and besides Harden being a ball hog, I havent heard of off the court issues they had. They both like strippers so I dont see what issues there could be off the court.

Vivlamore is a fakkit. He was on 92.9 the other day talking about how Dwight was a cancer in the locker room and how one time Dwight didnt answer some questions for him. It sounded like he had a vendetta against Dwight..Mike Conte, who is on 92.9 and who does pregame for the Hawks said that doesnt sound like the Dwight he knows. Other show producers from the station and teammates have shouted Howard out on Instagram praising him as a good dude and how folks paint him out to be a bad person in the locker room, which he is not.

Breh every team he's played on there has been some issue with Dwight and his teammates. At what point does Dwight bear any responsibility for his role in these relationships going bad? And BTW, im not saying that Dwight is a bad guy, what I am saying is that he does have a negative reputation in the locker room and has documented on the court and off the court incidents that he was involved in. It's not everybody else fault that he has that perception
 

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white agenda is why Dwight is gone, you pay him all that (relatively) money and you can't use him in the final minutes of a game, Dwight got Jason Heyward'd
Dwight sucks b. What is it that you guys don't understand about it. Dwight literally had no impact
 

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If Dwight would have accepted his role as a role player for putbacks and rebounds I'd have been okay with him, but when we force the ball to him in the post it's either him getting stripped, throwing the ball away or bricking the shot after some robotic post moves.
Not to mention act move on offense and defense, set screens, protect the paint and not just the rim, Dwight hurt us tremendously on transition defense.
 

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Dwight sucks b. What is it that you guys don't understand about it. Dwight literally had no impact
Only because the cupboard was basically bare, and Cacs was in they feelings, I can live with in being gone, but I'm not going to lay the blame at his feet alone, we went three and one versus Cleveland, there is plenty to blame the underachieving all around
 

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OP add me to all Atlanta related sports shoutouts.

But fukk this nikka Schlenk. Got rid of Dwight talking bout he doesnt fit the system cause Bud wants to space the floor, but we draft someone in the 1st round who never attempted a 3 in college

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C'mon son. Not all 19 year olds are drafted to be play right away. The draft is about potential and development. With his frame, makeup, mechanics, I'm sure they visualized someone they can mold into an NBA stretch 4.
 

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Saw this in the Summer League thread (rosters for all teams): https://t.co/mFz8JKbu0q

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It’s time to get back to work.

Hawks general manager Travis Schlenk gave his charges in the front office the weekend off after the long days and nights leading up to and through Thursday’s NBA Draft. The pace does not slow after the brief respite. The free agency period begins this week. The Hawks also have an entry in the Las Vegas Summer League in two weeks that will include all six selections from the past two drafts.

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“Our goal is still to be competitive,” Schlenk said before the draft. “Being competitive and maintaining our flexibility, that’s still where we are. We are not in a rebuild phase.”

The Paul Millsap Situation hangs over the organization but will likely be resolved by the weekend. The league free agency period begins at midnight on July 1, when teams can begin contacting free agents. Millsap is the most prominent of the Hawks’ six unrestricted free agents. The veteran is eligible for a maximum contract, one that is now projected at five years, $201 million from the Hawks and four years, $149 million from another team.

Schlenk has said that Millsap might receive better offers elsewhere, an indication that he is unwilling to give a maximum contract. Millsap might take less, in term and/or money, to remain with the Hawks. However, the four-time All-Star is likely to get a maximum offer from another team. Sides can agree on a deal at any point after July 1 but no contract can be signed until the end of the moratorium period, shortened by a day to July 6 in the league’s new collective bargaining agreement.

The Hawks will also have decisions to make on their own unrestricted free agents. Ersan Ilyasova, Kris Humphries, Thabo Sefolosha, Mike Muscala and Jose Calderon will be free to reach agreements with another team. The Hawks will also be able to reach agreements with other unrestricted free agents.

The Hawks will be busy with a current roster that includes just one power forward in Ryan Kelly and one center in Miles Plumlee. If Millsap is not re-signed, there will be much work to do if the Hawks want to remain relevant while retooling the franchise.

There is also Tim Hardaway Jr.’s situation that will require a lot of attention. Hardaway is a restricted free agent and the Hawks have the right to match any offer he receives from another team. They must define the financial threshold they are willing to spend to keep the emerging player in the fold after he showed significant progress in his two seasons with the Hawks. A consideration in the decision is the $16 million due to Kent Bazemore next season, the second of his four-year contract.

In the new CBA, teams now have two days to decide to match an offer sheet signed by their restricted free agents with another team. The previous agreement called for three days. Players are also allowed to sign an offer sheet during the moratorium period from July 1-6. If Hardaway does so, the Hawks have until 11:59 p.m. on July 8 to match.

Schlenk and the front office have also been busy exploring possible trades. The Hawks dealt Dwight Howard last week and received Plumlee and Marco Belinelli. Schlenk has already fielded trade calls on each as well as others on the roster.

Both Millsap and Hardaway have stated their desire to remain with the Hawks but also said the will let their agents handle the options before making a final decision.

“This is my team. I’m an Atlanta Hawk still,” Hardaway said during his exit interview following the Hawks’ playoff series loss to the Wizards in May. “There is no other team right now. My mind and my focus is with the Atlanta Hawks.”

The Hawks will field a roster, standing currently at 13 players, in the Las Vegas Summer League from July 7-17. The tournament, with 24 teams consisting mostly of first- and second-year players, will offer another chance to evaluate recent draft picks.

Taurean Prince, DeAndre Bembry, Isaia Cordinier, John Collins, Tyler Dorsey and Alpha Kaba will all participate. Prince and Bembry were on the Hawks roster last season and Cordinier played in France. Collins and Dorsey will likely be on the opening day roster and Kaba will return to play in Europe.

The Hawks could also be looking to invite players from the Las Vegas league to training camp with several positions opening, including a third point guard.

The Hawks are scheduled to open training camp in late September with a shortened preseason and earlier start to the regular season. The Hawks will still have roster decisions to make by the start of camp but much of the work will be done in the next several weeks.

I'm not sure what this roster is trying to be :francis:
 

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I'm not sure what this roster is trying to be :francis:
We have some potential pieces. Just need one of Prince, Collins, or Schroedouche max their potential out completely and we'll have a star. I could see all 3 being allstars at some point. Bembry and Dorsey have intriguing skillsets and I could see them being the x-factors in the future. Hardaway Jr. needs to work on his defense, but if he can get his 18 a game then we'll be set 1-4. Just need to find a rim protecting 5 and we will be homecourt locks in 2-3 years, along with Philly, Boston, and Milwaukee. Our future as bright as anyone else in the east and until one of the above 3 reach their potential I feel we have as much of a shot as anyone to take over once LeBron is done.
 

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We have some potential pieces. Just need one of Prince, Collins, or Schroedouche max their potential out completely and we'll have a star. I could see all 3 being allstars at some point. Bembry and Dorsey have intriguing skillsets and I could see them being the x-factors in the future. Hardaway Jr. needs to work on his defense, but if he can get his 18 a game then we'll be set 1-4. Just need to find a rim protecting 5 and we will be homecourt locks in 2-3 years, along with Philly, Boston, and Milwaukee. Our future as bright as anyone else in the east and until one of the above 3 reach their potential I feel we have as much of a shot as anyone to take over once LeBron is done.

Looking forward to seeing prince's development as a 3, he has the makeup to guard all the elite 3's in the league.
 

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We have some potential pieces. Just need one of Prince, Collins, or Schroedouche max their potential out completely and we'll have a star. I could see all 3 being allstars at some point. Bembry and Dorsey have intriguing skillsets and I could see them being the x-factors in the future. Hardaway Jr. needs to work on his defense, but if he can get his 18 a game then we'll be set 1-4. Just need to find a rim protecting 5 and we will be homecourt locks in 2-3 years, along with Philly, Boston, and Milwaukee. Our future as bright as anyone else in the east and until one of the above 3 reach their potential I feel we have as much of a shot as anyone to take over once LeBron is done.

We'll see. I hope that all happens and I think Prince can be a double digit scorer/lock down defender, Däs can be an All Star level PG and hopefully Collins can make an impact. But this roster still lacks immediate impact players, if Sap leaves I don't see how you make up for that or build a future around guys who at best might just be role players. And we definitely don't have the same caliber of high ceiling guys that Philly, BOS & MIL have and that's if all our guys max out on their abilities. I don't see us with the same level of skilled players, we're gonna have to import guys in or get really, really bad to draft some guys at the top of the draft
 
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