With Nigeria's demise imminent, which SSA country has the chance to reach superpower status?

[BigMan]

Not that I think Somalia is a potential "super power."

But population is incredibly deceptive given there are more Somalis outside of Somalia than inside of it.

Also has some of the best terrain in Africa.

the most liberal estimates i've seen have the Somali global diaspora at 2 million with Somalia have less than 16 million people.

 

[AB Ziggy]

sorry the population is too low in Somalia to project any power outside East Africa/Middle East. yall have your somaliland issue and al shabab issue too

Since when was population a major issue?

A small island called England colonized half the world at one point.

 

[Poitier]

the most liberal estimates i've seen have the Somali global diaspora at 2 million with Somalia have less than 16 million people.

There are probably 3 million Somalis in Kenya alone not counting the rest of Africa, Europe and USA/Canada.

 

[BigMan]

There are probably 3 million Somalis in Kenya alone not counting the rest of Africa, Europe and USA/Canada.

where are you getting that estimate from?

Since when was population a major issue?

A small island called England colonized half the world at one point.

since when was it not

 

[Poitier]

where are you getting that estimate from?

Wayback Machine

 

[BigMan]

Wayback Machine

are Kenyan Somalis those that happened to live there when the state boundaries was drawn or those that left Somalia?
and even so unless there are millions of Somalis in the Arab countries there still no way there are more Somalis outside Somalia because there aren't millions of Somalis in the West.

 

[Poitier]

are Kenyan Somalis those that happened to live there when the state boundaries was drawn or those that left Somalia?
and even so unless there are millions of Somalis in the Arab countries there still no way there are more Somalis outside Somalia because there aren't millions of Somalis in the West.

Tons of ethnic Somalis in places like Yemen, UAE, South Africa, etc and of course not counting Djibouti (who really are just Somalis) and Ethiopia.

Probably touching 8-10 million when you add it all up.

 

[AB Ziggy]

are Kenyan Somalis those that happened to live there when the state boundaries was drawn or those that left Somalia?
and even so unless there are millions of Somalis in the Arab countries there still no way there are more Somalis outside Somalia because there aren't millions of Somalis in the West.

Eithiopia, Dijbouti, and Kenya combined already have about 10 million Somalis outside Somalia.

Combine that with the Somalis outside Africa and that's about equal or slightly more than the country itself.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I agree with @Grano-Grano


Plus Somalis are war culture people which is needed to become a great power and they have conquered areas like Eastern Ethiopia. They also had colonies outside of Africa.

 

[BigMan]

Tons of ethnic Somalis in places like Yemen, UAE, South Africa, etc and of course not counting Djibouti (who really are just Somalis) and Ethiopia.

Probably touching 8-10 million when you add it all up.

Eithiopia, Dijbouti, and Kenya combined already have about 10 million Somalis outside Somalia.

Combine that with the Somalis outside Africa and that's about more than the country itself.

so not a true diaspora, just people who had their lands bisected by artificial borders

 

[Poitier]

so not a true diaspora, just people who had their lands bisected by artificial borders

thats africa in general

 

[BigMan]

thats africa in general

personally i wouldn't consider them a diaspora since they never "left" Somalia
a pan Somali makes sense to me personally

 

[AB Ziggy]

so not a true diaspora, just people who had their lands bisected by artificial borders

It's the European's fault for creating such borders. Many ethnic groups are not confined to one country.

For example, Hausas may be associated with Nigeria, but they also have large populations in Niger, Ghana, Senegal, Cameroon, etc since they're nomads.

Diaspora

 

[BigMan]

It's the European's fault for creating such borders. Many ethnic groups are not confined to one country.

For example, Hausas may be associated with Nigeria, but they also have large populations in Niger, Ghana, Senegal, Cameroon, etc since they're nomads.

the Hausa should leave Nigeria and merge with Niger

 

[Poitier]

personally i wouldn't consider them a diaspora since they never "left" Somalia
a pan Somali makes sense to me personally

Well yeah, I'm just saying their numbers are deceptive especially since Somalis are known for being serious about remittances and their business acumen.