Word, my Kenyan roommate from my freshman year told me Somalis have exclusive communities in Kenya and are moneymakers over there.
With Nigeria's demise imminent, which SSA country has the chance to reach superpower status?
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Word, my Kenyan roommate from my freshman year told me Somalis have exclusive communities in Kenya and are moneymakers over there.
Grano-Grano
The Bando
Africa has many countries that can grow if wasn't for white supremacy and greed from our elites 
Africa has many countries that can grow if wasn't for white supremacy and greed from our elites
Greedy elites are universal. Yet there are prosperous countries. That cannot be the reason Black countries aren't prosperous.
The Singularity
Pro
Their businesses are now being attacked in opposition strongholds in the west of the country for voting for Kenyatta's pro-business govt last elections probably be attacked again tomorrow.The socialist opposition propaganda gospel is anyone that is a successful works for the govt. Now my tribe has fellow company when being attacked for opening businesses in certain regions. Kenya's economy would be miles ahead if it wasn't for this rubble-rousing demagoguery.
Do not beat up Kikuyu and Somali business people Opposition leader Raila tells his supporters.
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The Singularity
Pro
I actually prefer authoritarianism to democracy but only when the dictator is a technocratic genius.I don't really care if he is a authoritarian as long as things are progressing.
Democracy is all about seducing as many people as possible but the masses don't know what's right for them.
Premeditated
MANDE KANG
In terms of being developed, I'm going by level of stability right now and population
Kenya and Tanz
superpower? The only one that has potential is DRC . Ethiopia since it has a large population. But Kenya and Tanz will probably turn to develop nations before Ethiopia
Kenya and Tanz
superpower? The only one that has potential is DRC . Ethiopia since it has a large population. But Kenya and Tanz will probably turn to develop nations before Ethiopia
Premeditated
MANDE KANG
not really, there economy is still growing by 7%
and also, him being ruthless to the foreign minining companies have actually paid off. Now 50% of revenues of one of canadian mining companies are going back to Tanz. I agree though, I don't know where this industrialization talk is coming from. They're just now starting.
Yeah even country has greedy people but africans lack foresight and just don't really care
This!
I don't know what the fukk happened but then brehs woke up and realized they're kings.
DrBanneker
Space is the Place
I don't see a single country as it stands now having the chance. Some form of (likely regional) Pan-Africanism would be necessary and that is going to be a hard slog given just the intrastate ethnic and economic issues. If ECOWAS was a economic or military bloc for example, that would have hopes. I don't see anyone in SADC overshadowing SA and EAC just will never have that mindset. DRC gets foreigners meddling whenever it even tries to get its stuff together unfortunately.
Ethiopia has the imperial greatness history and mindset to get there but it could take decades. There will always be the regional rivalry with Eritrea and Somalia as well. Honestly, Ethiopia would have to subjugate or reduce them to tributes to power up. Not that I'm recommending that, it's just cold geopolitics.
The biggest opening for Ethiopia would be the collapse of the House of Saud and general chaos in the Gulf. If Saudi went down, Yemen and Oman would probably be destabilized as well as UAE, Bahrain, and Qatar. Saudi, with Qatar as #2, is the key money spigot propping up Sudan and Turkey supplies a lot to Somalia. Sudan would take a huge L if its benefactors went under and the chaos in the Gulf would likely attract Erdogan or his successor who want to renew Ottoman style influence. Somalia would probably take an L from that. Given Eritrea also gets some Gulf support I would see them all taking huge hits and Ethiopia skillfully exploiting their weakness.
Ethiopia would need to deal with Egypt as well though given the Nile issues and the fact Egypt would be wary of Sudan falling off and becoming more in the Ethi orbit. That would be the big contest IMHO. Egypt would probably openly or clandestinely support Sudan and Eritrea as well as maybe Somalia just to check Ethiopia. Ethiopia would need a Bismarck style leader to prevent encirclement and outwit and beat Egypt but once done they could definitely fill much of the vacuum.
There is also the issue of Uganda who is using S. Sudan as a buffer against Sudan and indirectly to check Ethiopia but they are probably not going to be the main opponent.
This is all predicated on them not imploding due to Tigrinya chauvinism.
Ethiopia has the imperial greatness history and mindset to get there but it could take decades. There will always be the regional rivalry with Eritrea and Somalia as well. Honestly, Ethiopia would have to subjugate or reduce them to tributes to power up. Not that I'm recommending that, it's just cold geopolitics.
The biggest opening for Ethiopia would be the collapse of the House of Saud and general chaos in the Gulf. If Saudi went down, Yemen and Oman would probably be destabilized as well as UAE, Bahrain, and Qatar. Saudi, with Qatar as #2, is the key money spigot propping up Sudan and Turkey supplies a lot to Somalia. Sudan would take a huge L if its benefactors went under and the chaos in the Gulf would likely attract Erdogan or his successor who want to renew Ottoman style influence. Somalia would probably take an L from that. Given Eritrea also gets some Gulf support I would see them all taking huge hits and Ethiopia skillfully exploiting their weakness.
Ethiopia would need to deal with Egypt as well though given the Nile issues and the fact Egypt would be wary of Sudan falling off and becoming more in the Ethi orbit. That would be the big contest IMHO. Egypt would probably openly or clandestinely support Sudan and Eritrea as well as maybe Somalia just to check Ethiopia. Ethiopia would need a Bismarck style leader to prevent encirclement and outwit and beat Egypt but once done they could definitely fill much of the vacuum.
There is also the issue of Uganda who is using S. Sudan as a buffer against Sudan and indirectly to check Ethiopia but they are probably not going to be the main opponent.
This is all predicated on them not imploding due to Tigrinya chauvinism.
DrBanneker
Space is the Place
Instead of worrying about superpowers, we need to fix some damn issues first.
I am serious that every East and Central African foreign minister (Ethiopia, Eritrea, Djibouti,Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, DRC, CAR, S. Sudan) needs to meet in a conference in Arusha, Tanzania for a grand regional conference, AU sponsored or not. They need to settle the damn borders, come up with an integrated strategy for fighting terrorism, an integrated strategy for getting rid of the fukk all groups roaming the DRC and CAR (LRA, Mayi Mayi, FDLR, Rwandan proxies, etc.) and deal with minority issues (DRC, Burundi, Uganda, S. Sudan especially). Finally come up with a regional infrastructure plan. But I don't know how to make people follow through unfortunately.
I am serious that every East and Central African foreign minister (Ethiopia, Eritrea, Djibouti,Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, DRC, CAR, S. Sudan) needs to meet in a conference in Arusha, Tanzania for a grand regional conference, AU sponsored or not. They need to settle the damn borders, come up with an integrated strategy for fighting terrorism, an integrated strategy for getting rid of the fukk all groups roaming the DRC and CAR (LRA, Mayi Mayi, FDLR, Rwandan proxies, etc.) and deal with minority issues (DRC, Burundi, Uganda, S. Sudan especially). Finally come up with a regional infrastructure plan. But I don't know how to make people follow through unfortunately.
Some good damn posting @DrBanneker
Premeditated
MANDE KANG
tbf, the SGR projects are a start. Ethiopia and Kenya are practically done with there. Uganda and Tanz are just getting started
SGR is indeed a good start.