With Cade Icewood we bossin up to the #1 pick, again- Detroit Pistons 21-22 Official Thread

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Stewart is young and gotta learn how to tone down his aggressiveness. But last night Garza goes straight up and contest a shot and no foul call. Stewart did it and they call a foul everytime. Don’t know if he’s a starter. But if he can atleast be a rotational player that’s a plus. A big that can switch on pick and rolls and not get cooked.

i know one thing Stewart,bey,Hayes atleast one of them need to show they can be a nba starter. Ain’t looking good a far this season :martin:
Crazy that Killian has played the best out of the 3

Stewart can start in NBA starter but as a PF. But his best roll is energy bench big. Banging with Centers every night is too much. That Mobley, Allen front court just to big for him and Grant. Also think Stewart lack of size diminishes pnr.
 
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At some point, the Pistons need to realize that Jerami Grant doesn't fit their timeline and need to move him for assets. This teams is years away from even competing for a play-in spot and dude will be out of his prime at that point.

Cap space means nothing when you're not a free agent destination and your young players are years away from being ready. There's also no big name FA to be had anyways.
 

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This move makes sense for a team like the pistons. The team already has guys like him in Josh jackson. Bring him in and see what he has. If he shows that he can be developed keep him and give him time.

I’m assuming the kings want a guard or SF basically a wing. Seems like they have enough bigs.
 

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What does firing Casey achieve? He can’t knock down shots for his players. Bey , Frank Jackson, Joseph looked great last year but terrible thus year. Stewart is a backup C. Too aggressive and too many dumb fouls. Pistons issue is still a talent one not coaching. Different rotation of players is not leading to more success for this roster. Pistons need another top 5 pick and a big FA signing

Coaches take the fall all the time for players not performing up to standards and this situation wouldn't be any different. That's his job to put those guys in a positive to succeed and that's just not happening.
 

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At some point, the Pistons need to realize that Jerami Grant doesn't fit their timeline and need to move him for assets. This teams is years away from even competing for a play-in spot and dude will be out of his prime at that point.

Cap space means nothing when you're not a free agent destination and your young players are years away from being ready. There's also no big name FA to be had anyways.


Yeah but you should have a couple of productive veteran players on the team. Not saying it has to be grant but if you moved him I’d Think that you would want to feel that void.
 

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This move makes sense for a team like the pistons. The team already has guys like him in Josh jackson. Bring him in and see what he has. If he shows that he can be developed keep him and give him time.

I’m assuming the kings want a guard or SF basically a wing. Seems like they have enough bigs.

I've read that the trade would involve something like Josh Jackson or Hamidou Diallo and picks.
 

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Yeah but you should have a couple of productive veteran players on the team. Not saying it has to be grant but if you moved him I’d Think that you would want to feel that void.

My thing is that he's going to be a free agent after next season and do you really want to lock him up long term knowing that he doesn't really fit your timeline and teams will come calling and offer assets for his services.

I give him props for going to Detroit and what he was wanting to build, but it's not easy getting out of the lottery once you're in there and it takes years and a lot of luck to make it happen.
 

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My thing is that he's going to be a free agent after next season and do you really want to lock him up long term knowing that he doesn't really fit your timeline and teams will come calling and offer assets for his services.

I give him props for going to Detroit and what he was wanting to build, but it's not easy getting out of the lottery once you're in there and it takes years and a lot of luck to make it happen.


I’d move him personally and I’d move him. I’d just find me another playable vet somewhere. Unless they believe that olynk is that guy.
 

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Moving Jerami Grant doesn’t get you assets that will ultimately mean anything .Late first round picks and C level young players doesn’t do anything.Having a guy that actually knows what he’s doing and has developed to the level Jerami is at now around a young group of players is worth a lot .
 

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Moving Jerami Grant doesn’t get you assets that will ultimately mean anything .Late first round picks and C level young players doesn’t do anything.Having a guy that actually knows what he’s doing and has developed to the level Jerami is at now around a young group of players is worth a lot .

Locking him in at potentially $25+ million a season doesn't mean anything either when you're not going to be good enough to make the playoffs during the length of the deal. He's not good enough nor is the team around him good enough to justify overpaying just to keep him especially if they end up with a top pick in next years draft.

Orlando got two first round picks for Aaron Gordon. If a team is wants Grant, then they'll give up the assets to get him.
 

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Locking him in at potentially $25+ million a season doesn't mean anything either when you're not going to be good enough to make the playoffs during the length of the deal. He's not good enough nor is the team around him good enough to justify overpaying just to keep him especially if they end up with a top pick in next years draft.

Orlando got two first round picks for Aaron Gordon. If a team is wants Grant, then they'll give up the assets to get him.
I’m more so talking about this year . With Cade on the roster if you remove Jerami there is ZERO starting nba caliber players on the pistons . You can’t have a young player (two with Killian ) whose main strengths is orchestrating an offense attempt to develop on a roster with literally no offensive threats around him . If you can get the Denver package for him next year I’d do it without hesitation because I’m assuming the roster will be in a better spot but this year Grant can’t be moved unless the pistons are getting NBA level talent in return
 

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I’m more so talking about this year . With Cade on the roster if you remove Jerami there is ZERO starting nba caliber players on the pistons . You can’t have a young player whose main strengths is orchestrating an offense attempt to develop on a roster with literally no offensive threats around him . If you can get the Denver package for him next year I’d do it without hesitation because I’m assuming the roster will be in a better spot but this year Grant can’t be moved unless the pistons are getting NBA level talent in return

You can get more in return for Grant now compared to next year when he's on an expiring contract. If someone comes with a deal for Grant's services and is a good package, then Detroit would be a fool to turn it down. Trade him while his value is at it's highest.

The team next year will be in any better of a situation than they are in now, so there's no need to wait and see what happens if the deal is there. More times than not it typically takes years to get out of the lottery, which makes the title of this thread rather hilarious.
 

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If a playoff team came calling about grant at deadline they better listen. GS has another championship window opening. If we could send Grant there for deal like Wiseman and Moody why not. Call Knicks see if they willing to deal Toppin and Quickly for Grant. Maybe Hawks want ro consolidate some of there youth into a proven vet like Grant

Pistons are definitely a few years away from thinking playoffs. They shouldn’t extend Grant with a pay raise at end of his contract
 

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If a playoff team came calling about grant at deadline they better listen. GS has another championship window opening. If we could send Grant there for deal like Wiseman and Moody why not. Call Knicks see if they willing to deal Toppin and Quickly for Grant. Maybe Hawks want ro consolidate some of there youth into a proven vet like Grant

Pistons are definitely a few years away from thinking playoffs. They shouldn’t extend Grant with a pay raise at end of his contract
Aint no way warriors giving up wiseman and moody
And all accounts Grant wants to be here. We are one time running rebounding big and two three point shooters away from something already. Y’all getting restless like we not a rebuilding tanking team still
 
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