Wilt Chamberlain and Jordan had an argument about who was the goat at the 50 greatest(no kobe stans)

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Oh no doubt shaq was more talented then most people realized dude could legit handle the ball from coast to coast. Imagine if he could have gotten his freethrow shooting to 70% nikka would have never lost a game.


wilt chamberlain can do all that stuff better than shaq.

and he can do way more.

its not even up for debate.





LOL @ wilt sonning Jordan.
and bill Russell saying john paxson wouldn't have been able to hit a series-clincher shot in his day, because he wouldn't be in the league. it was no diss to paxson but lol. hes right.

whoever did this video was scared to put Oscar Robertson in the convo tho. I heard he said some chit.
 

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wilt chamberlain can do all that stuff better than shaq.

and he can do way more.

its not even up for debate.





LOL @ wilt sonning Jordan.
and bill Russell saying john paxson wouldn't have been able to hit a series-clincher shot in his day, because he wouldn't be in the league. it was no diss to paxson but lol. hes right.

whoever did this video was scared to put Oscar Robertson in the convo tho. I heard he said some chit.
I don't really agree and the paxon point was weak as if he couldn't have had someone else shoot the there lol.
 

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Who said he was deflecting from my post? :dahell:

He deflecting from all the good arguments - doesn't have to be responding to my post for me to point that out.

Brother tried to defend Wilt by bringing up Bill Simmons, Babe Ruth, and Arnold Schwarzenegger. :childplease:


There ain't no "misconceptions" about him playing against weak competition - he DID play against weak-ass competition. Ain't no "misconception" that he performed worse in the playoffs - he DID perform worse in the playoffs. Ain't no "misconception" that he didn't win much - he DIDN'T win much. He deflected from the legitimacy of every one of those arguments by bringing up random bullshyt.

Sure did deflect that Tristan Thompson point. He's black and over 6'8, and been one of the worst def centers in the league. What's he doing to Wilt. Is this another Draymond-Kareem thing lolz
 

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Russell is out of the discussion for obvious reasons.....the team had what 6 teams? FoH:camby:

As for Wilt....bruh you were 7'1 in a time wherein the tallest player under him was 6'5. Yeah I would be the shyt to if I towered over everyone in a time wherein cacs had no strat against me.

Jordan played with some assassins. Dudes who could shoot from anywhere, Shaq was a monster, Barkley was a bully....the fukking Pistons.


As for the changing of rules to make it easier? da fukk? that must've been misheard or Wilt is really senile.
 

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Seems like a lot of people in this thread ain't familiar with just how freak of an athlete Wilt was even outside of basketball. Dude would be a monster in any era.

yep

dude was a trackstar, a high jumper & was strong as chit. that's not to mention his skillset on the court was off the charts.

but let these dudes tell it, hes not even as good as shaq.:heh:


Shaq wins nothing without Kobe in LA. The fukk do I care about y'all petty fakkits trying to make it a Kobe vs. Shaq thing. They both played here and they both won more titles than Durant/Curry ever will. :mjpls:


ehh.

kobe is expendable in that scenario.

theres guys from that era, that shaq could've won just as many or more rings with.


from the things I read about wilt he had a vendetta against mj, I guess he felt threatened:mjpls:


a lot of older players and older fans have a thing against Jordan.

it is what it is.


I love what they all said
never knew jordan doesn't consider himself the best... or at least said so... and takes it as disrespect to say so, because he didn't play them


Jordan just said that cuz the camera was on him.

the same video, theyre talking about him arguing with wilt.

theres also that story of Jordan & Oakley pulling up on Stephen a smith.


let me flip it the other way... if the nba added 6 teams next year, where would they get the talent to fill them??

from nikkas who ain't good enough to be in the league right now

so would that be easier or harder to win, knowing you get to play 6 shyttier teams and about 90 shyttier players


yep

whats funny is, this is the type of era that Jordan dominated.

the expansion era.:laugh:


Wilt and Russell played against cac janitors
Prime 1999-2001 Shaq would eat they a$$hole alive
Only player who can argue for the GOAT status other than Jordan is Kareem


that's a myth.

in reality, they played in a better era for centers than shaq did.


hold on, people are saying Jordan wouldn't dominate in this era?

posters here talking about "the pool of talent" and "teams being stacked" in the 60s?


seriously?:usure:



we can look at clips of Jordan's era and post the same smilies in 2017.

whats your point?
 
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wilt chamberlain can do all that stuff better than shaq.

and he can do way more.

its not even up for debate.

Why is it that the people saying things like this aren't coming with receipts?



Can you please explain this video, if Wilt would be so much more dominant than Shaq. This is 1964, from Wilt's BEST season, the single biggest game in what one of his supporters called his most clearly dominant postseason....so why does it look as bad as it does?





Sure did deflect that Tristan Thompson point. He's black and over 6'8, and been one of the worst def centers in the league. What's he doing to Wilt. Is this another Draymond-Kareem thing lolz

Do you not get how you keep sonning yourself? Tristan Thompson is nothing today, and he easily would have been one of the top three-four defenders in the NBA when Wilt came in.

Before Nate Thurmond came into the league in 1964, name three post defenders in the entire NBA who were harder than Tristan. The best defensive centers at the time were Russell and Wilt. When they weren't playing each other, defense was a joke. 3rd best center was Walt Bellamy (who, if you watch the tapes, would be mediocre at best on defense in this era), and 4th best was....I don't even know who the hell the fourth best was.

You keep talking about how Tristan isn't a good defender for this era, so how could he guard Wilt? And I'm pointing out to you, look at all the stiffs you did guard Wilt and notice that they're worse than Tristan.





yep

dude was a trackstar, a high jumper & was strong as chit. that's not to mention his skillset on the court was off the charts.

but let these dudes tell it, hes not even as good as shaq.:heh:
that's a myth.

in reality, they played in a better era for centers than shaq did.

Yeah, they played in a "better era for centers" because the key was only 12 feet wide and because everyone else on the court was under 6'7". You racked up dominant stats if you were tall and could jump.

For nearly the first 20 years of the NBA's existence, if you were Black and over 6'9", there was a 50-50 chance you'd go to the Hall of Fame. It was that easy to dominate.






we can look at clips of Jordan's era and post the same smilies in 2017.

whats your point?

Well, yeah, that's a good point. There's a lot more talent than there was in Jordan's era too. I point that out before - watch clips of the 1992 Finals, Clyde vs MJ, and it's laughable how poor the defense is at times.

But it's still a FAR better game than the 1964 Finals.
 

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ehh.

kobe is expendable in that scenario.

theres guys from that era, that shaq could've won just as many or more rings with.
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Shaq don't three peat without that nikka
 

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Who said he was deflecting from my post? :dahell:

He deflecting from all the good arguments - doesn't have to be responding to my post for me to point that out.

Brother tried to defend Wilt by bringing up Bill Simmons, Babe Ruth, and Arnold Schwarzenegger. :childplease:


There ain't no "misconceptions" about him playing against weak competition - he DID play against weak-ass competition. Ain't no "misconception" that he performed worse in the playoffs - he DID perform worse in the playoffs. Ain't no "misconception" that he didn't win much - he DIDN'T win much. He deflected from the legitimacy of every one of those arguments by bringing up random bullshyt.

No different than lebron playing on a watered down eastern conference and losing more than he won in the finals. Does that take away from lebron?
 

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Exactly muthaphukas out here spewing novels...as if 50 years from now, sports fans wont be saying "But Lebron played against unevolved athletes" ...wait until these next batch of GMO athletes start springing up over the next 25 years.

In 1988, Wilt was saying how much more athletic players are (in 1988) than when he was coming up.

Sports always evolves. You can't compare eras you can only judge greats by how they separated themselves from the pack during their era.

It's not Wilt's fault he had who he had to compete against. Just like it won't be LeBron's fault 50 years from now when the average role-player is miles above today's average role-player.

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