Wilt Chamberlain and Jordan had an argument about who was the goat at the 50 greatest(no kobe stans)
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How many posters on this board knew how to dissect the game pre-2000, doesn't stop them from speaking on matters in the 80s/90s now does it? I mean shyt, folk don't even watch games now yet seem to have an authority on things.
Jordan>>LeFrozen
It was written in the Bible
shaq brought three titles to LA
which is more than wilt ever won
also more than the # of titles kobe ever led the lakers to
Shaq would of never 3peated if Kobe wasn't by his side
You can't be this fukking ignorant.
Wilt didn't win the Finals MVP against Kareem. Against Kareem in the CF, Wilt only averaged 10.8ppg while "holding" Kareem to 34ppg.
In the Finals, the Lakers got lucky because Willis Reed (who dominated Wilt in their previous Finals) was hurt. So Wilt was being guarded by 6'8" White guy Jerry Lucas the whole series. The next biggest guy on the team was Phil Jackson. And Wilt STILL only averaged 19ppg in the series, while Lucas worked him for 21ppg - it's just that Wilt had a loaded supporting cast of Goodrich, Jerry West, and McMillan that poured the points in for him.
You tried to claim that Wilt dominated Kareem for a Finals MVP when he was actually being guarded by Jerry Lucas.
Who da fukk brought up Bill Simmons? I brought up ACTUAL VIDEO OF WHAT WILT DEFENDERS CALLED HIS GREATEST POSTSEASON. Why don't you respond to that? Watch the damn video!
I gotta narrate the first three minutes.
0:24 - Wilt tips off against Russell who looks like he's giving up 5 inches to him. Wilt fails to control the tip, but the Celtic it goes to loses control of the ball and a White Warrior get it, hilariously dribbling further into the backcourt while crouching and staring at the ball.
0:32 - Some White guy buries a 16-foot jump shot. His defender doesn't even leave his feet, doesn't put his hand up, doesn't challenge the shot at all. This is the basketball highlight of the first four minutes.
0:49 -
WHAT DA fukk WAS THAT??? I can't even describe that - if some a$$hole tried that shyt in the gym with you you'd walk off the court and find a new team.1:12 - Another White guy bricks an open jump shot (again, no challenge at all), and Wilt benefits from an extremely weak loose ball foul call on the rebound. This is the supposedly "physical" 1960s, right?
1:30 -
Wilt barely even grazes the rim on the single worst-looking underhanded free throw I have ever seen in my life. 
1:40 -
I'm fukking dying at this point. A White Celtic just drove into the lane, kicked himself in the ass with his own feet, and missed the entire basket from only five feet away. He literally air-balled it from five feet without anyone even challenging. And the game just started so his legs are fresh! But Wilt doesn't box out, Russell gets the rebound and the put-back layup.2:00 - Wilt sets up right at the edge of the key, which remember is only five feet from the hoop. They loft a pass to him, which Russell can't do anything about because he's just too short. Wilt catches the ball, takes one dribble while looking at the ball, then drops the ball in the basket. Russell doesn't even try to challenge the shot.
2:20 - The Celtics throw a pass to Russell posting up. Wilt appears to have been taking a nap. Russell misses the lay-in, which Wilt challenges by putting his arms around Russell's sides, but then gets the tip-in when Wilt doesn't even jump for the rebound.
2:30 - Warriors pretty hilariously bounce the ball off each other while passing in the wrong direction in an unforced error, but the Celtics don't get it, maybe because the attempted pass was so dumb it surprised even them.
2:40 - Warrior drives to the hole and loses the ball. Celtics get a fast-break lay-in on the other end.
3:00 - White Warrior drives to the hole in a give-and-go with Wilt, and hilariously slams the ball off the side of the backboard because the presence of Russell frightens him. Wilt gets the rebound and gets fouled.
Ref does a disco move in response to the foul that has me dying.
3:30 - Wilt completely bricks another underhand free throw.
The game goes on like that.
"Instead of actually acknowledging that Wilt played against unathletic 6'7" and 6'8" centers with no defense and there were only a handful of black men in the entire NBA who were over 6'9", I'm going to deflect."
You just used the White baseball media promoting their White agenda to prop up Babe Ruth and took it at face value?
Of COURSE Ruth's stats were inflated. For the same reason Wilt's are. It's the same fukking shyt.
That fat-ass chain-smoking drunk would be getting his ass handed to him in an era of Black/Latin/Asian talent. Hell, it's not even just the non-White players - in the 1920s baseball scouts literally would drive around visiting sandlots looking for talent. Ruth's era was thin as fukk compared to the modern game.
I don't give a shyt about souped-up highlight videos that only show the shots that go in. Respond to the damn Finals video I already posted.
Wilt's scoring dropped in EVERY postseason, sometimes dramatically. Don't deflect - everyone can look at the year-to-year numbers and see the drop-off. His shooting %'s sucked in the playoffs too.
Tell me, what do you believe was the postseason that best proved how dominant Wilt could be?
What were the three playoff series when Wilt best asserted his dominance against quality competition?
What is the most impressive Wilt game you have video of? Not some highlights video, give me a game with the good and the bad like I gave you.
Jordan>>LeFrozen
It was written in the Bible
You can't be this fukking ignorant.
Wilt didn't win the Finals MVP against Kareem. Against Kareem in the CF, Wilt only averaged 10.8ppg while "holding" Kareem to 34ppg.
In the Finals, the Lakers got lucky because Willis Reed (who dominated Wilt in their previous Finals) was hurt. So Wilt was being guarded by 6'8" White guy Jerry Lucas the whole series. The next biggest guy on the team was Phil Jackson. And Wilt STILL only averaged 19ppg in the series, while Lucas worked him for 21ppg - it's just that Wilt had a loaded supporting cast of Goodrich, Jerry West, and McMillan that poured the points in for him.
You tried to claim that Wilt dominated Kareem for a Finals MVP when he was actually being guarded by Jerry Lucas.
Who da fukk brought up Bill Simmons? I brought up ACTUAL VIDEO OF WHAT WILT DEFENDERS CALLED HIS GREATEST POSTSEASON. Why don't you respond to that? Watch the damn video!
I gotta narrate the first three minutes.
0:24 - Wilt tips off against Russell who looks like he's giving up 5 inches to him. Wilt fails to control the tip, but the Celtic it goes to loses control of the ball and a White Warrior get it, hilariously dribbling further into the backcourt while crouching and staring at the ball.
0:32 - Some White guy buries a 16-foot jump shot. His defender doesn't even leave his feet, doesn't put his hand up, doesn't challenge the shot at all. This is the basketball highlight of the first four minutes.
0:49 -
1:12 - Another White guy bricks an open jump shot (again, no challenge at all), and Wilt benefits from an extremely weak loose ball foul call on the rebound. This is the supposedly "physical" 1960s, right?
1:30 -
1:40 -
2:00 - Wilt sets up right at the edge of the key, which remember is only five feet from the hoop. They loft a pass to him, which Russell can't do anything about because he's just too short. Wilt catches the ball, takes one dribble while looking at the ball, then drops the ball in the basket. Russell doesn't even try to challenge the shot.
2:20 - The Celtics throw a pass to Russell posting up. Wilt appears to have been taking a nap. Russell misses the lay-in, which Wilt challenges by putting his arms around Russell's sides, but then gets the tip-in when Wilt doesn't even jump for the rebound.
2:30 - Warriors pretty hilariously bounce the ball off each other while passing in the wrong direction in an unforced error, but the Celtics don't get it, maybe because the attempted pass was so dumb it surprised even them.
2:40 - Warrior drives to the hole and loses the ball. Celtics get a fast-break lay-in on the other end.
3:00 - White Warrior drives to the hole in a give-and-go with Wilt, and hilariously slams the ball off the side of the backboard because the presence of Russell frightens him. Wilt gets the rebound and gets fouled.
Ref does a disco move in response to the foul that has me dying.
3:30 - Wilt completely bricks another underhand free throw.
The game goes on like that.
"Instead of actually acknowledging that Wilt played against unathletic 6'7" and 6'8" centers with no defense and there were only a handful of black men in the entire NBA who were over 6'9", I'm going to deflect."
You just used the White baseball media promoting their White agenda to prop up Babe Ruth and took it at face value?
Of COURSE Ruth's stats were inflated. For the same reason Wilt's are. It's the same fukking shyt.
That fat-ass chain-smoking drunk would be getting his ass handed to him in an era of Black/Latin/Asian talent. Hell, it's not even just the non-White players - in the 1920s baseball scouts literally would drive around visiting sandlots looking for talent. Ruth's era was thin as fukk compared to the modern game.
I don't give a shyt about souped-up highlight videos that only show the shots that go in. Respond to the damn Finals video I already posted.
Wilt's scoring dropped in EVERY postseason, sometimes dramatically. Don't deflect - everyone can look at the year-to-year numbers and see the drop-off. His shooting %'s sucked in the playoffs too.
Tell me, what do you believe was the postseason that best proved how dominant Wilt could be?
What were the three playoff series when Wilt best asserted his dominance against quality competition?
What is the most impressive Wilt game you have video of? Not some highlights video, give me a game with the good and the bad like I gave you.
How is he deflecting from your post when he wasn't even talking to you to begin with?
Who said he was deflecting from my post?
He deflecting from all the good arguments - doesn't have to be responding to my post for me to point that out.
Brother tried to defend Wilt by bringing up Bill Simmons, Babe Ruth, and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
There ain't no "misconceptions" about him playing against weak competition - he DID play against weak-ass competition. Ain't no "misconception" that he performed worse in the playoffs - he DID perform worse in the playoffs. Ain't no "misconception" that he didn't win much - he DIDN'T win much. He deflected from the legitimacy of every one of those arguments by bringing up random bullshyt.
That was great...
Legends have a way about them... It's a humble, accurate confidence... They call it how they see it, even at their own expense ...
Legends have a way about them... It's a humble, accurate confidence... They call it how they see it, even at their own expense ...
Rick Roller 10
All Star
Has to have FG percentage over .45 %.
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Wilt's scoring dropped in EVERY postseason, sometimes dramatically. Don't deflect - everyone can look at the year-to-year numbers and see the drop-off. His shooting %'s sucked in the playoffs too."
lmao don't try so hard to hate him. you still don't understand the change of role he plays
Wilt Chamberlain NBA & ABA Stats | Basketball-Reference.com: Playoffs Per Game | Basketball-Reference.com
people here trying to crucify Wilt for something he can't control like he played against bad competition, unathletic, few tall players etc. So what does he needs to do to convince people that he's one of the best players ever? stand up in the grave and get a time machine ? this is a guy at 31 averaged a triple double through 41 games with 25.3 ppg (62 fg%), 23.2 rpg and 10.6 apg. good numbers
Wilt's scoring dropped in EVERY postseason, sometimes dramatically. Don't deflect - everyone can look at the year-to-year numbers and see the drop-off. His shooting %'s sucked in the playoffs too."
lmao don't try so hard to hate him. you still don't understand the change of role he plays
Wilt Chamberlain NBA & ABA Stats | Basketball-Reference.com: Playoffs Per Game | Basketball-Reference.com
people here trying to crucify Wilt for something he can't control like he played against bad competition, unathletic, few tall players etc. So what does he needs to do to convince people that he's one of the best players ever? stand up in the grave and get a time machine ? this is a guy at 31 averaged a triple double through 41 games with 25.3 ppg (62 fg%), 23.2 rpg and 10.6 apg. good numbers
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poor dankster hates wilt for some reason.
Kareem is the best basketball player ever. Dominated at all 3 levels, HS/College/NBA. In multiple systems with different coaches, teammates and roles across different eras
Jordan is my favorite player of all time...but I always felt Wilt was sonning him here....
me and my daughter, when she was 10 years old, would have this debate...she did her research and always chose Kareem over MJ, made me proud because I never told her that Kareem would be the only person I'd accept someone saying he's better than MJ.
Exactly muthaphukas out here spewing novels...as if 50 years from now, sports fans wont be saying "But Lebron played against unevolved athletes" ...wait until these next batch of GMO athletes start springing up over the next 25 years.
In 1988, Wilt was saying how much more athletic players are (in 1988) than when he was coming up.
Sports always evolves. You can't compare eras you can only judge greats by how they separated themselves from the pack during their era.
It's not Wilt's fault he had who he had to compete against. Just like it won't be LeBron's fault 50 years from now when the average role-player is miles above today's average role-player.
Close thread.
