Wii U has the best games this Christmas :stopitslime:

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I don't think anybody's trashing them. I think first of all, most people disagree with you - they think Mario 3D World is genuinely more innovative and unique. Second of all, they think that even outside of not being particularly unique, some of those games just aren't as good to them as they may be to you. Some people don't like the new physics for 2K, some people don't think there's anything new in KZ, some people think Forza is a downgrade outside of Drivatars.
No I don't think most people disagree with me, or Wii Us would be selling like hot cakes.

And some people don't like Mario. Those types of statements get us nowhere.


I hear you. I disagree.
Agreed:cheers:
 

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I don't think anybody's trashing them. I think first of all, most people disagree with you - they think Mario 3D World is genuinely more innovative and unique. Second of all, they think that even outside of not being particularly unique, some of those games just aren't as good to them as they may be to you. Some people don't like the new physics for 2K, some people don't think there's anything new in KZ, some people think Forza is a downgrade outside of Drivatars.


I hear you. I disagree. You seem disappointed that many other people disagree with you too.

those people are stupid, the new physics in 2k make the game feel more like real life, which is what they were aiming for, and how is forza a downgrade outside the most necessary AI upgrade in racing game history? that alone makes it an upgrade. I cant speak for KZ tho
 

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The honest truth is nintendo games havnt really advanced much since they originally made the switch to 3d.

If you only had an xbox1 or ps4 you would be just fine.

But if you just had a wii u?
:usure:


That new mario looks fun as hell but its the same gameplay mechanics since the 64, only now its a bunch of random masses of platform obstacle courses.


Zelda should be way more advanced than the shyt its become. Dark souls made me never wanna touch a zelda game again.

The last metroid was the other m:usure:

Smash bros success depends on the online functionality and we know how nintendo could give two shyts about online play.


I just dont understand how people see any evolution and advances outta nintendos first party line up. These games play exactly how they have been for the past 15 years. Only thing nintendo changes is gimmicky ways to play the game.
People who say this do not play Nintendo games.
Motion controls didn't change how you played Zelda? Minish Cap wasn't a multiplayer Zelda game :stopitslime:

Same goes for Mario, Metroid, and a few other series that you can only find on their hardware.
 

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And some people don't like Mario. Those types of statements get us nowhere.
I don't think there's any set of statements that are going to get us "somehwere". I don't see you all of a sudden saying "ah alright, Mario 3D world is the best game out this holiday!" and vice versa. But you brought in how you feel others are praising Mario and trashing other games so I was addressing that statement directly.
 

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I don't think there's any set of statements that are going to get us "somehwere". I don't see you all of a sudden saying "ah alright, Mario 3D world is the best game out this holiday!" and vice versa. But you brought in how you feel others are praising Mario and trashing other games so I was addressing that statement directly.

Sorry if the thread mislead, but it really isn't about individual opinions. It's about theoverreaching narrative that X1/PS4 games are not innovative yet Mario and Zelda are
 

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those people are stupid, the new physics in 2k make the game feel more like real life, which is what they were aiming for, and how is forza a downgrade outside the most necessary AI upgrade in racing game history? that alone makes it an upgrade. I cant speak for KZ tho
I'd argue the new physics more accurately reflect what happens to a ball when you bounce it off someone's head but they don't accurately reflect what happens in a real basketball game with professionals (they don't make as many mistakes as the mishaps caused by the new physics). Many feel forza is a step back in terms of content. Much fewer cars than at launch of Forza 4.
 

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Sorry if the thread mislead, but it really isn't about individual opinions. It's about theoverreaching narrative that X1/PS4 games are not innovative yet Mario and Zelda are
NSMBU is a good example of a derivative Wii U game and I think the content of reviews reflected that quite well. It's not some conspiracy to praise Nintendo and bash others.
 

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Thats my point, these "new" mario games all look like the same mario I quit playing 15 years ago. the graphic and the gameplay look the exact same with the exception of "3d" (gimmick) yet nintendo and these so called "experts" act like these games are great and on the same level as the ones on ps4 and X1
Sad part is that these dudes will label you a nintendo hater for having an opinion like this.

I was a nintendo fan all the way up till the wii, I chose 64 over psx, gamecube over ps2 and xbox..

Ive played damn near every nintendo exclusive up to this wii u, ive done my history, the games are not much different than the previous ones. In zeldas case its worse in damn near every way from world, setting, story, dungeons, and difficulty.

But everyone acts like nintendo is so perfect, and they will never have the criticism needed to take their games to the next level.
 

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People who say this do not play Nintendo games.
Motion controls didn't change how you played Zelda? Minish Cap wasn't a multiplayer Zelda game :stopitslime:

Same goes for Mario, Metroid, and a few other series that you can only find on their hardware.
Like clock work.


I can guarantee you ive played more nintendo games than you.

Minish cap was a damn handheld game.

Im talking the main console zelda series.

And ive played and beaten every single zelda game including the handheld ones. (Not including the the Phillips cd ones)

Same goes for the mario, metroid, fox, kirby, and donkey kong series.


Dont act like im talking out my ass I know exactly how all these games play
 

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Sad part is that these dudes will label you a nintendo hater for having an opinion like this.

I was a nintendo fan all the way up till the wii, I chose 64 over psx, gamecube over ps2 and xbox..

Ive played damn near every nintendo exclusive up to this wii u, ive done my history, the games are not much different than the previous ones. In zeldas case its worse in damn near every way from world, setting, story, dungeons, and difficulty.

But everyone acts like nintendo is so perfect, and they will never have the criticism needed to take their games to the next level.
I'd argue the new physics more accurately reflect what happens to a ball when you bounce it off someone's head but they don't accurately reflect what happens in a real basketball game with professionals (they don't make as many mistakes as the mishaps caused by the new physics). Many feel forza is a step back in terms of content. Much fewer cars than at launch of Forza 4.

exactly I had the snes then chose the nintendo 64, and I sat there as ps1 made me look like an idiot. I have had my fare share of their games, I just can be unbiased an say they have not made the amount of progression that a game like mgs has or forza, they may not have as many cars or the weather right now but we know dlc is coming and you cant say that the drivatar isnt groundbreaking. whats so groundbreaking about mario 34834
 

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I guess we have different definitions of "raise the bar" the best game getting better raises the bar in my opinion:manny:

i guess we do though i've never seen anybody use the phrase "raised the bar" when they were talking about game that had minimal changes.
 
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