Why would a God desire to be praised/believed?

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The clay pot also doesn’t have the ability to mistreat other clay pots and still get into Heaven simply because he believes in the pot maker as written by a clay pot.

Respectfully this is incorrect big picture-wise because there are those who have believed in God (Jesus) and have gotten kicked out of heaven for their behavior like Satan was.

No evil and/or unrepentant people or even angels are allowed to stay in heaven even if they believe in God (Jesus).
 

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Respectfully this is incorrect big picture-wise because there are those who have believed in God (Jesus) and have gotten kicked out of heaven for their behavior like Satan was.
This doesn’t relate to humans. What human got into paradise and was kicked out for bad behavior? And on a larger, philosophical note how is bad behavior even possible in paradise?
 

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This doesn’t relate to humans. What human got into paradise and was kicked out for bad behavior? And on a larger, philosophical note how is bad behavior even possible in paradise?

Technically there are no "human" beings in heaven. We believe that when we die our earthly death, then we will go from mortal beings to immortal beings like the angels and like God (Jesus) now is.

Bad behavior is possible in a paradise such as heaven because there is still free will in heaven. However we know from what happened to Satan that it will not be tolerated for long and you can be kicked out for evildoings.
 

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Technically there are no "human" beings in heaven. We believe that when we die our earthly death, then we will go from mortal beings to immortal beings like the angels and like God (Jesus) now is.

Bad behavior is possible in a paradise such as heaven because there is still free will in heaven.
OK, what former human went to paradise and was kicked out?:comeon: And that’s not even the main point…the point is that folks can do bad shyt here in this life and make it to paradise.

And if paradise has free will..,what makes it much different than our current existence? With free will comes the potential for both happiness and sadness.
 

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OK, what former human went to paradise and was kicked out?:comeon: And that’s not even the main point…the point is that folks can do bad shyt here in this life and make it to paradise.

And if paradise has free will..,what makes it much different than our current existence? With free will comes the potential for both happiness and sadness.




Well let's take the example of the unrepentant evil slaveholder/rapist man who believes in God(Jesus). In Revelation 21:21 it details how there are gates into heaven so that although when that evil man dies, he may stand outside the gates of heaven trying to get in, he won't make it in because of his unrepentance and evil deeds. Another scripture details this in Matthew 7:21 when Jesus said "Not everyone who says Lord Lord will ENTER (key word enter) the kingdom of heaven."

So just because an evil believing slave master/rapist makes it to heaven's gates does NOT mean he will actually be allowed to enter.
 

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Well let's take the example of the unrepentant evil slaveholder/rapist man who believes in God(Jesus). In Revelation 21:21 it details how there are gates into heaven so that although when that evil man dies, he may stand outside the gates of heaven trying to get in, he won't make it in because of his unrepentance and evil deeds. Another scripture details this in Matthew 7:21 when Jesus said "Not everyone who says Lord Lord will ENTER (key word enter) the kingdom of heaven."

So just because an evil believing slave master/rapist makes it to heaven's gates does NOT mean he will actually be allowed to enter.
And a person who lived a wholesome life but didn’t believe in God goes to Hell for eternity? Is that moral?
 

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There is no god alive today who knows what he would of wanted at current
 

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OK, what former human went to paradise and was kicked out?:comeon: And that’s not even the main point…the point is that folks can do bad shyt here in this life and make it to paradise.

And if paradise has free will..,what makes it much different than our current existence? With free will comes the potential for both happiness and sadness.
We will be like Christ in paradise.
 

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And a person who lived a wholesome life but didn’t believe in God goes to Hell for eternity? Is that moral?

It depends on what you consider moral. If you believe there is no heaven or hell at all and God/Jesus does not exist then the moral argument is nullified.

But if you DO believe in God (Jesus) and have accepted that He is our Savior (e.g. Jesus dying for our sins and was resurrected so that we could gain immortal heavenly lives) then it is perfectly moral because getting to heaven is not based on "good" works from a Christian perspective. Bad people do "good" things all the time but often for self-serving and nefarious reasons. That is why we don't look to "good" works as the key to salvation. Only believing in Jesus is the key and He offers people numerous opportunities to try Him out both in this life and also (this is just my personal opinion) probably in a purgatory type of place as well in the afterlife because God's whole goal is for people to want to have an eternal loving relationship with Him of their own free will so He will repeatedly offer chances for that to happen before making final pronouncements on our eternal destination point that is alluded to in the White Throne Judgment in the book of Revelation.
 

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christians most hypocritical people on earth. Ive yet to meet one that follows that bullshyt book verbatim. Yall will be going to hell with the rest of us if we being real
 

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The most powerful being desiring the praise of its creations? Desiring to be believed in…To desire praise/belief is such a human trait.

Just seems like the height of human hubris…creating a God and assigning it human qualities.

Why would an all-powerful God desire…anything?

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maybe your concept of God desires nothing

my concept of God desired creation and creatures. Thus both you and I live because of the concept of my God

its a good thing :whew:
 
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