Why Was TLOU2 Hated?

[AAKing23]

cuz them weirdos who stan for that game all seem to have hating TLOU 2 in common

Ghost was clearly the better game and the GOTY. And you'll find no bigger fan of TLOU than me coming from the first one, the 2nd one honestly just ain't hit like that

 

[Th3G3ntleman]

I'll save you some time people are going to come in here saying the writing is bad, the pacing is bad, etc what they really mean is they're mad Joel died and they have to play as two women. No more white male scruffy heroic cac for me to cosplay? I'm mad

 

[The Mad Titan]

The story was a huge step down from the previous game, the "agenda" was laid on THICC and the game killed off a beloved character and forced you to play with the character that killed him. People had this same reaction to Metal Gear 2 when they were forced to play with Raiden out the blue, people hated the character and hated that they thought they were going in as one thing and got rugged pulled with another.


The game also was paced pretty weak.




Even with all that said it was one of the best gaming experiences in gaming period.

 

[Lannister]

Loads of people didn't like Joel dying so early and brutally. They also didn't like he was taken out by a woman. They also didn't like that said woman was buff and unattractive. They also didn't like that you had to play as that woman.


It really was an alt-right, gamergate chud feast, and they milked it for what it's worth. I don't think these guys are going to get another payday that easy any time soon.


IMO It was an easy GOTY for me. It took huge risks and I thought by the end it payed off extremely well. Seeing Ellie from another (an enemy) perspective was . You realize how scary and dangerous she is.

Excellent from a gameplay perspective, innovative accessibility settings and beautiful character/sound/environment design


But terrible pacing of the story, inconsistent character traits/writing and identity politics make the game leave a bad taste in my mouth


I've played through the game 5 times to see if that bad taste went away but it doesn't

What identity politics? lol

 

[AAKing23]

Loads of people didn't like Joel dying so early and brutally. They also didn't like he was taken out by a woman. They also didn't like that said woman was buff and unattractive. They also didn't like that you had to play as that woman.


It really was an alt-right, gamergate chud feast, and they milked it for what it's worth. I don't think these guys are going to get another payday that easy any time soon.


IMO It was an easy GOTY for me. It took huge risks and I thought by the end it payed off extremely well. Seeing Ellie from another (an enemy) perspective was . You realize how scary and dangerous she is.









What identity politics? lol

The decision to write in a Trans character (Lev) solely to give Abby a redemption arc for you to empathize with her was terrible and lazy writing. It came off forcibly that Lev was trans and not that they just happened to be Trans and they made that almost his whole identity.


My opinion, you ain't got to feel the same

 

[BlackXCL]

Ghost was clearly the better game and the GOTY. And you'll find no bigger fan of TLOU than me coming from the first one, the 2nd one honestly just ain't hit like that

its worse in literally every way. TLOU2 won like 100x more GOTY awards. you know a game is meh when the best thing about it is... the fukking grass
- writing
- combat
- performances/acting
- presentation
- graphics
- moment to moment gameplay
- animation
- story
- intensity
- gameplay overall
- AI

all worse.

Ghosts is a fukking generic open world game with a bland open world full of nothing to do but chase foxes.

the enemies die the same way EVERY SINGLE TIME.

"REALISTIC" GAME with no fukking limbs flying

FAILS TO CAPTUE the true brutality of the Japanese invasion by the Mongols.. those mfs were BRUTAL. this shyt felt like a kids game in comparison to TLOU 2.

the faceoffs are ALL the same

AUTOFAIL STEALTH MISSIONS IN 2021.. straight out of a 2007 Ass Creed game.

RETARDED ass AI

the characters show NO emotion in their face during cutscenes, they dont even fukking move, they just stand there, in every cutscene - kills any sense of immersion

there are no random events in the open world. Nothing to do in it. Just a bunch of pretty grass.

come on man. i dont understand yall

it pisses me off

 

[AAKing23]

its worse in literally every way. TLOU2 won like 100x more GOTY awards. you know a game is meh when the best thing about it is... the fukking grass
- writing
- combat
- performances/acting
- presentation
- graphics
- moment to moment gameplay
- animation
- story
- intensity
- gameplay overall

all worse.

Ghosts is a fukking generic open world game with a bland open world full of nothing to do but chase foxes.

the enemies die the same way EVERY SINGLE TIME.

"REALISTIC" GAME with no fukking limbs flying

FAILS TO CAPTUE the true brutality of the Japanese invasion by the Mongols.. those mfs were BRUTAL. this shyt felt like a kids game in comparison to TLOU 2.

the faceoffs are ALL the same

the characters show NO emotion in their face during cutscenes, they dont even fukking move, they just stand there, in every cutscene - kills any sense of immersion

there are no random events in the open world. Nothing to do in it. Just a bunch of pretty grass.

come on man. i dont understand yall

it pisses me off

There are literally missions on there with a dedication to decapitating their enemies and posting their heads on spikes. The Mongols literally decapitate a major character in a story mission. The Mongols burn people alive and raid their villages. Limbs do come off during combat, it's just not cartoonish with the way it's shown.

Bruh did you play the same game?

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

 

[BlackXCL]

There are literally missions on there with a dedication to decapitating their enemies and posting their heads on spikes. The Mongols literally decapitate a major character in a story mission. The Mongols burn people alive and raid their villages. Limbs do come off during combat, it's just not cartoonish with the way it's shown.

Bruh did you play the same game?

All that shyt happens in story missions, my point exactly ---- NOTHING in the actual, open world. the world is empty and uneventful. like 99% of open world games. It needed more random activity throughout.

Why am i automatically failing a mission when I get seen in 2020?

The game would have been much, much better as a wide linear game. like God of War or TLOU 2. there was no point in this shyt being open world minus the pretty ass grass. With tighter combat, a more compelling story with better presentation, and more structure

GOAT grass I will give it that

 

[My Girl is Bow Legged]

The story was a huge step down from the previous game, the "agenda" was laid on THICC and the game killed off a beloved character and forced you to pay with the character that killed him. People had this same reaction to Metal Gear 2 when they were forced to play with Raiden out the blue, people hated the character and hated that they thought they were going in as one thing and got rugged pulled with another.

see that agenda stuff was what I kept hearing and honestly in the game it was barely noticable. I'm someone who gets easily annoyed when that stuff gets forced in a corny way in modern media but it amounted to what, a few conversations that you could blink and miss? there was definitely one cringe "this is the developers' pro-trans message" speech but after playing the game I feel like a lot of that was boosted from youtube complaining like people have said here

raiden was different. they straight up misled people by using doctored videos showing snake in the plant section. from what I've seen all the pre-release content for TLOU 2 only showed ellie playable so did people really assume joel was gonna be the main character?

 

[4-Rin]

Simple, they hated it because of what happened to Joel in the opening hours of the game then you were forced to play as Abby.

That's the only reason. They couldn't say nothing about the gameplay because it had better gameplay than part 1.

I dont care for TLOU simply because I don't fukk with zombie games. Same reason I dont fukk with Days Gone. Sony got something right by rejecting a sequel

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

The last of us 2 discussion is turning into the biggie vs pac debate of video games

 

[Zebruh]

Killing Joel then making you play as the killer was not a great move.

 

[tinnyskillz]

see that agenda stuff was what I kept hearing and honestly in the game it was barely noticable. I'm someone who gets easily annoyed when that stuff gets forced in a corny way in modern media but it amounted to what, a few conversations that you could blink and miss? there was definitely one cringe "this is the developers' pro-trans message" speech but after playing the game I feel like a lot of that was boosted from youtube complaining like people have said here

raiden was different. they straight up misled people by using doctored videos showing snake in the plant section. from what I've seen all the pre-release content for TLOU 2 only showed ellie playable so did people really assume joel was gonna be the main character?

They did do the switch-a-roo right before the game release. @2:20
Didn`t bother me one bit. I might have even posted in the old thread at the time that i thought it was fake (some other brehs said it to), and Joel was dead. Because after he said his line something looked off.

But I'm pretty sure it was to throw people off like how Marvel does in their trailers. Spoilers was Imminent around that time if I recall correctly.

 

[My Girl is Bow Legged]

They did do the switch-a-roo right before the game release. @2:20

But I'm pretty sure it was to throw people off like how Marvel does in their trailers. Spoilers was Imminent around that time if I recall correctly.

never seen this, props. so there was some fukkery afoot