Why VR will fail.....

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Ppl are tripping if they think console only owners would be ok paying 350+ for VR. Anything over 300$ would be received bad and consumers would create too high of an expectation for it at that price.

A reasonable launch price would be 250$ or 300$, but that means Sony would have to sell it at a lost.
$200 or so would be the sweet spot for Sony to sell that to the PS4 crowd, but it's too expensive at the moment to even take that risk. It will cause Sony's only successful division to fold...which basically means it could put the company even in more financial trouble.
 

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Hands up who here has actually used VR?
I tried a OR demo at micro center

I gaurantee most of you havent. Once youve used it you become a believer.
It was cool, and something I'd want to try again, but not something I'd want to own and play in my home.

Kinect and that bullshyt didnt fail because it was too much to do,it failed because it served no real purpose and never had a game that can sell its use. Why would people use controls that are objectively worse.

VR inherits this same problem, as a kinect-like camera and a move-like device is needed to control it.

3d at home failed because most 3d fukking sucks.

Which is why people still pay a premium to watch 3d movies in the cinema :ehh:
VR has to be experienced. I dont believe anybody that has actually used it wouldnt believe in it
fukk is this even supposed to mean:heh:

Its not comparable to kinect,wii or 3d at all. Youre comparing gimmicky nonsense thats amusing for 5 minutes against something that literally changes gaming for the better.

VR is a compilation of those gimmicks

Vr IS the future
Not in living room gaming :comeon:
 

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I was reading that only 17% of PC owners can actually use the rift (their specs are too low), while 100% can on the ps4. That's a big difference. I can see people building VR ready PCs, but that's at least another $1000. So we're looking at $1600 for VR on the PC (probably more for the Vive). If Sony can release the PSVR for $300-$400, that significantly reduces the cost of entry. They could own the market, for real.

These first few years of PC VR will be for the enthusiasts only, with very strong PCs like mine. You can't have bullshyt specs and expect VR, but you can have a $350 PS4 and get VR.
 

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I was reading that only 17% of PC owners can actually use the rift (their specs are too low), while 100% can on the ps4. That's a big difference. I can see people building VR ready PCs, but that's at least another $1000. So we're looking at $1600 for VR on the PC (probably more for the Vive). If Sony can release the PSVR, for $300-$400, that significantly reduces the cost of entry.
Yeah, but the experiences will be vastly inferior. PSVR games will be very limited in comparison to what can be done on OR and vive
 

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I was reading that only 17% of PC owners can actually use the rift (their specs are too low), while 100% can on the ps4. That's a big difference. I can see people building VR ready PCs, but that's at least another $1000. So we're looking at $1600 for VR on the PC (probably more for the Vive). If Sony can release the PSVR, for $300-$400, that significantly reduces the cost of entry.
Yeah I am willing to bet that 17% will dwarf the percentage of PS4 owners that will even consider paying $600 for something like that. 17% of the PC market is already higher than the entire PS4 install base anyway.

If you are in that 17% crowd, chances are high that you are even remotely interested in it. A team I work with of about 15 people are in that 17%...9 of them are getting it lol.
 

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I'd probably try out VR gaming, but I will always and forever prefer a controller. Even if I somehow lost my hands I'll just learn to use a controller with my feet.


Now VR for porn, that's another story.
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Yeah I am willing to bet that 17% will dwarf the percentage of PS4 owners that will even consider paying $600 for something like that. 17% of the PC market is already higher than the entire PS4 install base anyway.

If you are in that 17% crowd, chances are high that you are even remotely interested in it. A team I work with of about 15 people are in that 17%...9 of them are getting it lol.
You should get it too. I can't fukking wait :ohlawd:
 

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You should get it too. I can't fukking wait :ohlawd:
Man I wait on everything these days. I wanted the steam controller on DAY 1, but waited it out to see what the consensus was before making the jump (even though it was only $50).

What I REALLY want to play in VR is the new Mirror's Edge game. That shyt will be wild for me and will probably be when I break and buy one of the damn things.
 

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Stop living in your small bubble, The PC market dwarfs the consoles. If it takes off, it will take off on the PC first.

Not only that, the console market has also shown that it is not willing to pay a high premium for hardware...no matter WHAT it does. The damn console itself is just half the cost of the VR.

The PS3 @ $500+ didn't sell too well, The XBOX ONE @ $500 almost sunk the division.

You don't see it?? The PC Market dwarfs consoles.. but only a small fraction of that market actually will be able to run the rift. That's why I said all those people don't matter because they have to do upgrades and shyt just to run it. You're lumping in every PC owner who has the potential to upgrade but then again that's a big bill to foot to get in the door.

EVERY PS4 owner can run the PS VR. You just buy it and you're in. The only thing causing it to be a issue is if it's priced too highly. That's why I said they have the potential to get it to the majority of console owners.
 

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Yeah I am willing to bet that 17% will dwarf the percentage of PS4 owners that will even consider paying $600 for something like that. 17% of the PC market is already higher than the entire PS4 install base anyway.

If you are in that 17% crowd, chances are high that you are even remotely interested in it. A team I work with of about 15 people are in that 17%...9 of them are getting it lol.
So you're assuming the PSVR will cost $600. If it's not $600 but say $400 or less, that's considerably much more potential to buy it.
 

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You don't see it?? The PC Market dwarfs consoles.. but only a small fraction of that market actually will be able to run the rift. That's why I said all those people don't matter because they have to do upgrades and shyt just to run it. You're lumping in every PC owner who has the potential to upgrade but then again that's a big bill.

EVERY PS4 owner can run the PS VR. You just buy it and you're in. The only thing causing it to be a issue is if it's priced too highly.
Doesn't matter, the 17% of that PC market interested will be a higher total than the PS4 only owners willing to invest $600 in a $400 console. The 17% in that crowd likely have High end Haswell, XEON, or Skylake Processors...which is more than the cost of a damn PS4 itself.

This has been proven time and time again, why can't people get this through their head? In the console market, for an accessory...$150-$200 is the sweet spot.
 

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People shouldn't be duped into buying this its just the next gaming gimmick like motion controls was. I'm perfectly fine gaming on the couch with my big screen and a controller. I'm not paying several $100 dollars for the next gimmick in gaming.
 

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So you're assuming the PSVR will cost $600. If it's not $600 but say $400 or less, that's considerably much more potential to buy it.
More will consider it at $400, but I don't see it moving too much at that price point either tbh. I think Sony might be able to get away with $300 for the initial crowd that wants it fast, but more or the same price as a PS4? Nah breh, I just don't see it for a good percentage of that crowd.

BTW, counting the people on forums/reddit and several other outlets is what I consider the hardcore crowd...we don't count. Hell, I am even considering it down the line and I don't even have a GTX 970 right now.
 
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