Why tupac feared hatian jack the biggest gangsta in hip hop history

[Danie84]

about a snitch name Haitian Jack.

 

[Free White & 21]

Most of the shyt you post is SPECULATION about jack and RUMORS about pac. You just a lame nikka that don't know the streets, the rules, or REAL nikkaS. Everything i posted on pac is fact that's backed up. Only in a world full of fake nikkas would a nikka try to argue against facts with speculation


I asked you last time if you knew the rules, and you ducked and dodged like a ho. Then i noticed you posting ol ho shyt like this:

i think pac death wish had more to do with the fact he knew he would have had to finish his jail sentence in NY after his appeal would have got turned down.....pac got touched up b4 and knew he would have been hoe cakes back in clinton max after all the fraudelent talk.........dont think he would have survived more than a few months upstate in elmira or clinton when his appeal got denied honestly

Had me like and i decided to just let a ho be a ho... til you started this ho ass thread. Are you a female? Serious question...

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

call him what u want but you would have got shot saying anything to his face....ask meech what happened in la

Allow me to speak upon an issue I AM very familiar with....

first of all...PAC wasn't FEARFUL of Haitian Jack....matter of fact it was PAC's willingness to NOT BE AFRAID of Jack which caused Jack to come at him anyway........

and it's quite obvious the way PAC called him out on record "THE REALEST SHYT I EVER WROTE' that Pac was in no way fear of this man...

One thing i can say about PAC and this is coming from a guy such as myself whom wasn't a REAL PAC fan till after his death....is the fact that THIS IS PROBALLY THE ONLY RAPPER who can validate being the REALEST....pac went hard not only at rappers but street cats as well...as Jamie Foxx once said..."i told Pac he needs to stop what he's doing...cause the guys he is beefing with (street niccas) have NOTHING TO LOSE".....

Now back to Haitian Jack....he's a perfrect example of NOT EVERY NICCA in the streets is a REAL STREET NICCA....

he would do anything to penetrate the entertainment industry, whether it's SNITCHING as a FEDERAL INFORMANT or THREATNING to leak contreversial photos of certain Moguls and Celebs or being the Talent Scout ahem Muscle for one of the most corrupt corporate entertainment giants in the industry

and for the record that situation had NOTHING to do with Meech....Haitian Jack got into with one of Terry Flenory's people following accusations that he was trying to muscle in on Terry Flenory's producer Damon Thomas ...Jack was feeling some way about Terry who was making moves not only in the streets out west, but entertainment wise as well this was following the split between Meech and Terry in 2001

The only issue Jack had with Meech was that Meech decided to incorporate the 'Black Mafia Family" name which was being used previously by Haitian Jack in lieu of the 'A-TEAM" which was the label for Jack's brooklyn jack boy team along with King Tut.....

 

[newarkhiphop]

terry flenory is big meech's brother btw....

 

[StackBundles]

What Haitian jack have to do with Gucci killing Jeezys boys?

 

[big bun]

after a earlier thread and hearing all these little misinformed kids spew this wrong ish they get off internet explorer i decided to help yall out to the truth.So many of you niccahz both young and old , east and west is misinformed and just off about who was really the gangstaz b4/during/after that whole east/west soap opera and in Hip Hop in general to todaY even. if you wasnt there u wouldnt really know. REAL GANGSTAZ SAY NOTHING AND LET THERE GUNS TALK FOR THEM. THats how i was raised. here is a little info i will share about one of the niccuhz i witnessed and was raised under. jack was feared by all everywhere...from miketyson,tupac,50,puff,big,suge,black mafia family,bloods,crips and anybody you can name. though im not proud of him working with the feds years later To fight corruption in the music biz long after pacs death this nicca still is one of the most powerful niccahz in the music industry. put all yall bs theories to rest about fake records,rappers and interviews...........this is the realist most accurate piece of writing i ever found about my nikka

BROOKLYN'S OWN HATIAN JACK

The Unauthorized Story Of Haitian Jack | The Spizzy

Get off that snitch dikk...

 

[newarkhiphop]

What Haitian jack have to do with Gucci killing Jeezys boys?

na nothing directly just funny looking at the connection

Wolf puffs one time head of security gets sent to atl by puff after a fall out between them two regarding the shyne shooting

Puff them hires meechs head of security as his own

While in atl wolf gets killed by someone from bmf

Later on jeezy rides the bmf wave to get a buzz, puff puts jeezy on Boyz in the hood

Jeezy and gucci have there beef, gucci catches two bodies

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

What Haitian jack have to do with Gucci killing Jeezys boys?

NOT A GOTTDAMN THING....

The threadstarter is all over the place with this "conspiracy theories" which has no validation as well as logic whatsoever....

also the article itself is FUGAZI...considering no dates , nor refrences to detailed investigative documents or cross refrences is provided.....

 

[Still Benefited]

Sound like Pac wuz about as afraid as he wuz at any point he thought he wuz in danger and could die which wuz all the time.....he started wearing a gun again and kept it moving,my nikka wuz still doin the Humpty in NY clubs....he called dude a snitch to a reporter...went to work with Henchmans artist knowing Henchman wuz cool with Haitian and just bought his gun with em....screamed on Henchman as wel l knowing all this....this should read "Why Pac shoulda feared Henchman and Haitian but didn't anymore than u fear the next bunch of nikkas wit guns"....and how he get faulted for only dissin them once by name when he died before the album came out lol....he made a declaration of war on them nikkas....had he lived he would have had to deal with that wouldn't he? It huts nikkas Pac wuznt afraid of these boogeyman they idolized and were afraid of.....don't put that fear u have on the next man

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

u need to read the link fam it will help yall nikkaz clear up all these wrong facts yall be pointing to just on some unbiased ish 4 real........jack wasnt a snitch then at all.....pac was mad jack lawyer got him 6months and pac got railroaded because of his celebrity status real talk...

They say Jack had a long rap sheet before that, though.


Did a lot of shyt, but never served any time.



I wouldn't be surprised if the nikka was working with the FEDS back then.

He could be a mole himself."Child of high ranking political figures?"....them the type of nikkaz you have to watch.They're always the most wild and craziest.

When I lived in Cali back in the day, my uncle was bangin that crip shyt real tough.I remember overhearing him talk to my moms about the police sending in undercovers to infiltrate his gang.He said he would always be surprised to find out they were plants because they put in the most work and screamed CRIP louder than everyone else.


nikkaz like Jack exist because the FEDS allow them to.I wouldn't be surprised to find out nikkaz like that make deals with their masters from time to time.


Y'all remember hearing about the "hip hop police?" FED/Police nikkaz infiltrating rapppers crews to keep a eye on them or to do some fukked up shyt to get them in trouble? I believe that shyt is real.nikkaz like jack and jimmy henchmen are the perfect types to get involved in some shyt like that.


The whole scenario of how Pac got caught up in that rape shyt seemed like a set up to me.


First off, the bytch that Pac supposedly raped, jack and his crew was already fukking with her.She was one of their ho's.


Jack introduced Pac to the bytch, and she immediately goes down and starts sucking his dikk right there on the dance floor?....They go to a hotel and fukk later that night, but the next day, JACK CALLED HER BACK and told her to come hang out at their hotel suite.



When the bytch arrived, Pac said he felt uncomfortable because she was trying to act like she was his girl.She was basically a groupie/ fukk fest....it was what it was, but why come in being all lovey dovey with Pac when the other nikkaz you fukk with called you over?


She asked Pac if she could give him a massage and they went in the room and closed the door.A few minutes later, jack and his nikkaz bust in and start feeling on the bytch.Pac said he got up and went into the living to talk to his manager because he wasn't about to be apart of no gangbang shyt.He figured that was their bytch and how they got down



During the rape trial, Pac and Jack had seperate cases.That's when Pac started getting suspicious of the nikka.Not only that, but some of Pacs people who were former Black Panther Party members, would always tell Pac that Jack didn't "smell" right.That's code for undercover agent talk.Ex Panthers feel that shyt instinctively.

That's when Pac dissed jack in the NY daily Newspaper.After that, the rest is history.He was set up and robbed by Jimmy Henchmen...etc...etc

Pac got charged with "forcefully touching the buttocks" and received 4 1/2 years....while jack who probably sodomized that bytch, got off with no time...even with the long wrap sheet?


That nikka been working with the FEDS, man

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

....he made a declaration of war on them nikkas....had he lived he would have had to deal with that wouldn't he? It huts nikkas Pac wuznt afraid of these boogeyman they idolized and were afraid of.....don't put that fear u have on the next man

" You said don't go to war unless I got my money behind me. Aight, I got my money right here, now I want war" - 2pac "AGAINST ALL ODDS"

the average rapper living under these type of circumstances would have FOLDED UNDER PRESSURE.........

and also did a service to many future rappers by letting them know the street politics and corruption that is heavily involved in this game...

the threadstarter has some PERSONAL ANIMOSITY as if Pac slept with his girl or something

 

[spliz]

All in all..Pac was a real nikka...

 

[newarkhiphop]

KING TUT speaks!


Walter "King Tut" Johnson never thought victory could feel so empty. Just after 9am on Oct 24,1996, Johnson strode into the courthouse at 360 Adams St. in downtown Brooklyn, excited at the prospect of returing home later that day on a not-guilty verdict stemming from a robbery charge.

Though Johnson had a criminal record that one prosecuter dubbed "extraordinary"-his rap sheet included a dramatic holdup of a Jehovah Witness Hall in 1983 , also numerous acquittals in a number of shootings and robberies , including the 1993 attempted murder of a cop in a Brooklyn barbershop.

Johnson attorney had informed him that he'd have a good shot at a not-guilty verdict or even having his case dismissed. But as Johnson passed through the courthouse metal detectors and made his way to the courtroom, he was accosted by a group of men dressed in plain business like attire in the hallway. The men followed Johnson to the courtroom, where moments after the judge announced that he was dismissing the robbery case, the men in business attire promptly stepped forward and slapped handcuffs on him.

The well dressed men happened to be U.S Marshalls and King Tut was on his way to being indicted by the Feds. As he was driven to the U.S District Court in Brooklyn, Johnson started to panic; this was his first run in with the feds and his extensive criminal background made him an easy target.

Johnson's fear of a life behind federal bars increased to near parylisis when the marshals in the car accused him of shooting Tupac Shakur at Quad studios in Times Square New York in 1994 and of having murdered the rapper just six weeks earlier, on Sept 13, 1996.

"I'm screaming at them..like 'You crazy!!- I didn't do either one of them", Johnson remembers sayin. "I didn't kill nobody, I didn't kill Tupac!"

The agents wasn't buying it, in fact they were so convinced Johnson had killed Tupac that they asked to search his truck-which was parked in a garage near the courthouse-in hopes of finding the murder weapon.

When Johnson arrived at U.S District Court later that day, though he was only accused of a series of robberies in Brooklyn. Much to thier chagrin, the federal agents did not find the weapon used in the Quad shooting or Tupac's murder.

King Tut was hit with 12 federal charges stemming from three armed robberies, and not the murder of perhaps the most iconic rapper in hip hop's history, should have come as a profound relief to Johnson. But it didn't-Johnson knew that if hee was convicted, he could be sentenced to life without parole under the "Three Strikes" provisioin of a federal crime bill passed by congress in 1994, which mandated a sentence of life imprisonment for violent three time federal offenders. "That was the worst day of my life" says Johnson speking to KING MAGAZINE from the U.S Penitentary in Lee, Virginia.


CONT.

The next day, thinigs took an even darker turn. News reports of his indictment quoted an informant whom told investigators that Johnson had called Tupac “a sucker”and bragged about shooting him at Quad, an incident that jumped started the coastal hip hop war of the mid 90’s. The New York daily news quoted the informant as saying that “Tupac was not a real gangster and that he had shot him, to discipline him”.
The feds seem to believe the informants words and the following statement was given to the Daily News by a police spokesperson , “We hope that [king tut] arrest will lead to solving the murder of Tupac Shakur”.

In spite of the fact that no evidence could be produced to solve the murder much less the shooting of Tupac in N.Y, the Daily News ran with the story under the headline: “FEDS VOW TO BURY KING TUT”.

Walter Johnson-stick up kid, alleged killer of tupac, has the most regal of street names, born to a brooklyn -under humble conditions. During the mid 70’s, Johnson and his friends attended hip hop block parties uptown , by the dawn of the 80’s , Johnson was drawn to the sinister side of the streets.

During this time period of the pre-guliani era, one could easily earn his stripes on the street by arming himself with a pistol and wearing a ski-mask. It was this part of street life, which Johnson relished as he commited strings of armed robberies and various street heists with ease.
“I was very angry, or you could say disturbed”, Johnson explains..”By allowing yourself to be manipulated by into situations that will affect you for your entire life, will result in lifetime reprucussions.”

Johnson’s rep became cemented in stone in 1979, when he was picked up on a charge relating to a sting of unsolved robberies. “When my mother came to get me from the precint, the police asked her..”What other name he goes by besides Walter Johnson?..she responded “Tut is his nickname”..the superior officer replied ..”King Tut?”, my mother said..”No , that is not his name”..the officer responded..”Yeah I think his name will be KING TUT..cause he’s from the county of Kings.”

With an alias given to him by an officer, King Tut lived up to his title as his “get money” schemes grew more outrageous and more frequency. On August 8, 1983, Tut robbed 6 passengers on a Queens to Brooklyn bus; a week later the hold up of a subway car full of passengers in downtown Brooklyn was attributed to Tut as well, and little more than a month later, on Sept 12th, he executed the robbery of more than 300 members of a Jehovah Witness Hall. Yet inspite of his healthy criminal spree, Tut virtually remained “untouched” with the exception foa 2 to 6 year jail sentence , in which he would eventually be parolled after just 3 years.

But in January or 1993, tut’s luck with the law would come into an abrubt end. At a Brooklyn barbershop, King Tut shot a plainsclothes officer in full crowd view with Tut’s five year old son accompanying him, the officer named Richard Aviles was partially paralyzed from the waist down, Johnson says that him and his son was ambushed by Aviles without provocation and never identified himself as a cop.

"He was dressed like a thug" , Johnson recalls, with his voice trailing off.."and he produced a weapon , ran up behind my son ..and right then all hell broke loose!".

cont.
In spite of the broad daylight violence and life threatening injuries of the officer, a Brooklyn jury found Johnson not guilty of the crime of attempted murder, and this profoundly upset the NYPD. After serving a year for a minor armed robbery charge, King Tut vowed to his family and friends that he would leave the streets for good , as well as salvaging what little freedom he gained after surviving a firefight with an officer as well as beating prosecution.

To achieve his goal , King Tut like many of his street peers sought entry into the lucrative rap industry, which at the time was capitalizing off the ‘gangsta’ lifestyle in the form of “thuggary” via Tupac and big money “dons” such as Biggie.

It just so happen that King Tut would set up a meeting with one of the biggest advocates of this form of entertainment, Sean “Puffy” Combs, “I explained to Puffy that I can be very beneficial to you, you don’t even have to give me money, I have income coming in, I just need your insight”, Puff was like..”Yo I heard alot of bad things about you man, I don’t know”, Puff was told by many that I was not to be trusted and can do nothing but harm.” As the meeting was coming to a conclusion, with nothing productive seeming to come out of it, Tut made this plea..”Look if you don’t want to deal with me based on what I did to you or some people associated with you, I can respect that”..but to not deal with me just ‘based on what others might have said to you, just ain’t right!”

Puff finally was convinced, and agreed to mentor King Tut in the complexities of doing business in the hip hop world, by just following his directives. Walter “King Tut” Johnson really wanted to follow Puff’s demands, but Tut had plans of his own according to rivals of Bad Boy as well as the Feds.

Once Tupac Shakur fingerpointed King Tut and Brooklyn based manager Jimmy Rosemond in his shooting at Quad, Johnson became a certified suspect. Johnson says “Pac fingered me in the shooting, based on what people told Pac, Johnson refuses to reveal whom, all he says is that people on Rikers and the streets said it was “Tut from Cypress.” The notion that Tut was the triggerman made perfect sense to Tupac , because of an east coast cabal consisting of Puffy, Haitian Jack, Biggie and Jimmy “Henchmen” Rosemond seemed capable of conducting the attack. “Because of my association with Puff Combs and Bad Boy”, Johnson says. For his part Henchmen denies any involvement.

When Shakur was later murdered in 1996, Tut’s name came up once again, he became a logical suspect which led to that fateful day that the marshals picked him up in a Brooklyn courtroom. Not able to present any credible evidence of Tut’s involvement in Tupac’s shooting as well as murder, the Feds alleged that he had commited three robberies back to back in 1996 against the girlfriend of a Brooklyn dope kingpin. Even though their were numerous loopholes in the robbery cases, and the fact that these robbery charges should have never gotten pass the state jurisdiction level, it raises the question:

Why were the Feds so infatuated with Tut’s alleged robbery sprees?, federal law enforcement denied comment, but Tut offers this explanation, the indictment on the robbery charges were meant to pressure Tut into directly fingering Puff Daddy in Tupac’s assault and eventual murder. But instead Walter “Tut” Johnson did not cooperate with the Feds in any investigation involving Puff Daddy.

It is likely that as a result of resisting pressure from the Feds by refusing to comply with the Feds demands, Walter “Tut’ Johnson was the first New York resident to be sentenced with life without parole under the newly written “Three Strikes’ provision.

Although it has been a decade since Tupac’s murder and nine years since Tut’s federal indictment, the ghosts of both events still haunt Johnson and Hip Hhop as a whole. TUPAC’S controversial take on the matter “Against All Odds” off the Makavelli L.P includes the line: “Gun shots to Tut, now you stuck!” and 50 CENT kept tut’s name in the game with the verse on “MANY MEN”: “Feds ain’t no jack when Pac got shot, I got a kite from the pen saying Tut got knocked.”

Johnson is now currently serving his life sentence in Jonesville , Va and he confirms to KING that as both New York Magazine and Newsweek have speculated that he is at the center of a renewed investigation by the U.S ATTORNEY’s office in New York regarding the shooting as well as slaying of Tupac Shakur. Johnson says that in the spring of 2005, he was moved by the Feds from Jonesville prison to the Metropolitan Corrctional Center (MCC) in downtown Manhattan next to a cell containing Jacques “Haitian Jack” Agnant for intense questioning.

Johnson says that in spite of that he is working with tupac’s father , Mutulu Shakur and Shakur’s private investigator Watani Tyehembia in their own investigation of the murder of Tupac shakur, Tyehembia confirms that Tut has cooperated.

King Tut isn’t surprised why many of Tupac’s fans are wary of his motives in helping to solve the murder of Tupac, “I can understand why pac fans would not like me and I respect their loyalty to him”…”But I want them to know I definitely had nothing to with his attempted murder nor his assassination, it is very important that they know that this situation is MORE COMPLICATED THAN THEY WOULD EVER BELIEVE, if you look at this case you will find numerous lies , inconsisticies and more importantly cover-ups and smoke screens!”

“If i’m wrong prosecute me to the fullest degree, but if I’m innocent let me go, even though i was a bad guy in my younger years, i didn't do this, and i don't deserve to be here for this!"

from king magazine

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

from king magazine

King Tut isn’t surprised why many of Tupac’s fans are wary of his motives in helping to solve the murder of Tupac, “I can understand why pac fans would not like me and I respect their loyalty to him”…”But I want them to know I definitely had nothing to with his attempted murder nor his assassination, it is very important that they know that this situation is MORE COMPLICATED THAN THEY WOULD EVER BELIEVE, if you look at this case you will find numerous lies , inconsisticies and more importantly cover-ups and smoke screens!”

“If i’m wrong prosecute me to the fullest degree, but if I’m innocent let me go, even though i was a bad guy in my younger years, i didn't do this, and i don't deserve to be here for this!"


This is the shyt I'm talking about.Napoleon from the Outlawz said Pac told him the nikkaz that was out to get him had their own personal helicopters and shyt.


Them nikkaz was connected to some shyt to deep to stick your feet in.....that's why nobody will ever come out and speak the truth about this shyt.


I think we're just somewhere in the middle right now.Puffy and BIG is the low level shyt.Their masters was Jack and Jimmy Henchmen.


Jack & Henchmen are the mid level that we're at now, but who're them nikkaz masters?


I think that's what Tut is getting at.This shyt is wayyyy more complicated than we know.It goes up to high level music execs and the FEDS.....that's why nobody is willy to touch it

 

[newarkhiphop]

King Tut isn’t surprised why many of Tupac’s fans are wary of his motives in helping to solve the murder of Tupac, “I can understand why pac fans would not like me and I respect their loyalty to him”…”But I want them to know I definitely had nothing to with his attempted murder nor his assassination, it is very important that they know that this situation is MORE COMPLICATED THAN THEY WOULD EVER BELIEVE, if you look at this case you will find numerous lies , inconsisticies and more importantly cover-ups and smoke screens!”

“If i’m wrong prosecute me to the fullest degree, but if I’m innocent let me go, even though i was a bad guy in my younger years, i didn't do this, and i don't deserve to be here for this!"


This is the shyt I'm talking about.Napoleon from the Outlawz said Pac told him the nikkaz that was out to get him had their own personal helicopters and shyt.


Them nikkaz was connected to some shyt to deep to stick your feet in.....that's why nobody will ever come out and speak the truth about this shyt.


I think we're just somewhere in the middle right now.Puffy and BIG is the low level shyt.Their masters was Jack and Jimmy Henchmen.


Jack & Henchmen are the mid level that we're at now, but who're them nikkaz masters?


I think that's what Tut is getting at.This shyt is wayyyy more complicated than we know.It goes up to high level music execs and the FEDS.....that's why nobody is willy to touch it

Tupac's Panther Shadow: The Political Targeting of Tupac Shakur

The finding of continued COINTELPRO-type activities adds weight to evidence that Shakur's associate Jacques Agnant (a/k/a Ricardo Brown, a/k/a Nigel) was an undercover agent who infiltrated his life and contributed to his legal problems. In 1993, after befriending Shakur, Agnant introduced Shakur to Ayanna Jackson the night she had consensual sex with the singer, first on a dance floor and then in his hotel room.25 In a second visit to Shakur's hotel room several days later, set up again by Agnant, Jackson charged Shakur, Agnant, and two others with sexual assault.

Events around the trial point to Agnant's government connections. Agnant's trial lawyer, Paul Brenner, had represented the Policemen's Benevolent Association for many years.26 In addition, Agnant's case was severed from that of the other defendants without protest from the prosecutors. And, after Shakur's trial, Agnant's felony indictment was dismissed, and he simply pleaded guilty to two misdemeanors.27

Shakur was convicted of three of the nine charges, relating only to non-consensual touching of Jackson's buttocks (typically reported only as "sexual abuse"), and sentenced to one-and-a-half to four-and-a-half years, an extremely harsh sentence.28 (In 1994, New York City police admitted "accidentally erasing" a tape Shakur and companions had of Jackson that supported Shakur's defense. His lawyer, Michael Warren, successfully argued that the police also planted guns in the hotel suite where the supposed assault occurred.29

Jacques Agnant was also connected to Shakur's near-fatal mugging in late November 1994. Toward the end of Shakur's sexual assault trial, Agnant was seen several times secretly following Shakur.30 Several days later, "Booker," a man Agnant had introduced to Shakur, paged the singer and asked him come to a studio in Times Square to record with a new rapper. Booker called Shakur insistently that night, lied to him about who would be there, and offered $7,000 cash from his pocket to get Shakur to the building. When Shakur arrived with three companions, two men held him at gunpoint in the lobby and stripped him of his gold jewelry, although they left his diamond-encrusted Rolex, which Agnant had bought for him. Then they shot him in the groin and twice in the head, while he was face-down on the floor.31

Some suspicious aspects of the event were noted by editors of the Amsterdam News.32 Shakur and a companion both said they saw a police car outside the lobby doors on Broadway, immediately after the assailants fled, guns in hand. The New York Police reported this as a random mugging, yet the assailants picked an extremely well-lit Times Square area for a robbery.

In what the Washington Post described as "one of the many strange twists in the case,"33 three of the same cops who first appeared a year earlier at Tupac's hotel in the sexual assault arrest were the first to arrive at this near-fatal "mugging."34 And at least one has been identified as a member of New York's now infamous Street Crime Unit.