Why tupac feared hatian jack the biggest gangsta in hip hop history

[Ninjaz In Paris]

Good Read...

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

No one ever disputes that Haitian Jack was more heavy in the streets than 2pac. However, you just seem to glorify him and add little twists to the story that are unsubstantiated.



A lot of information in that article is pure speculation and other information is just plainly wrong (such as Pac being murdered in 1997, Stretch getting shot in the '94 shooting is false I believe as well).

It mentions a lot of good info such as the ties between all these people but it interprets the details in a very speculative, yet matter-of-fact way which makes it unreliable. For example, if you believe the bolded above is true, that Jack got off simply because he had a better lawyer, you're either completely naive or just not looking for the truth. The article speaks nothing of how unfortunate it was for 2pac to be caught up in the whole rape situation in the first place, like it wasn't a fishy situation.




This here is just another unsubstantiated claim a la Wendy Williams herself. You believe Pac got touched because 'your cousin mentioned it' yet you dismiss all the rumors about Haitan Jack being a snitch already in '94. How convenient..

that bio is written by the cop who forced jack to work with him after he moved to la... why would he lie about jack being a snitch previously? would that benefit him in some way lol?......like i said its a dirty game so i wouldnt bet my life he wasnt or was fam but from personal dealings and mutual peeps my ansa is not at that time......

that bio is speculation only to stans who dont want to digest what they thought they knew but actually didnt know....take it for whatever u want

again maybe pac got fondled or not who knows i wasnt in jail in the showers wit him.....if i heard it from wendy williams i wouldnt believe shyt but my fam is diff story... take it for what u want....other people coming out with the same info down the line just made it more likely to be 100 to me

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

Sounds to me like this Hatian Jack character is just another In a long list of overhyped washed up former NYC kingpins turned snitches..

This nikka ain't no different than any other bum, only reason we talkin about him is cuz PAC called him out and made him relevant

"relevant" is a little nicca word

and if you actually read the bio instead of being emotional and mad at Ny you would see jack is filthy rich and far from washed lil nicca....

think b4 u type in 2012

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

Pac was never looked at as a gangsta but more a real nikka wit Alotta heart...but let's not act like he had bytch in em but these "kingpins" didn't...half these nikkas fell off the face of the earth cause of the bytch tendencies...what Pac had to learn the hard way is these nikkas deep down had NO honor cause ain't no honor amongst thieves and criminals... and all these stories end the same...

pac had alot of heart but not the heart to deal with these dudes. the universal misconception is pac had new york nikkaz shook because of yelling on records when nikkaz didnt care about theater....in reality pac was scared for his life. he knew who he was dealing with and both jack and jimmy were bi-coastal eating at the time.

every man has a slight fear of death agreed ....some much more than others but personally from what i have seen maybe true or false but jack nor tut had bytch in them as far as the streets was concerned just bein 100..

them nikkaz is rotten applez

 

[Hannibal Fox]

Pac was never looked at as a gangsta but more a real nikka wit Alotta heart...but let's not act like he had bytch in em but these "kingpins" didn't...half these nikkas fell off the face of the earth cause of the bytch tendencies...what Pac had to learn the hard way is these nikkas deep down had NO honor cause ain't no honor amongst thieves and criminals... and all these stories end the same...

Try telling his posthumous bandwagon jumping super stans that.

His stans are second only to Bruce Lee stans truth be told.

 

[Free White & 21]

Pac was never looked at as a gangsta but more a real nikka wit Alotta heart...but let's not act like he had bytch in em but these "kingpins" didn't...half these nikkas fell off the face of the earth cause of the bytch tendencies...what Pac had to learn the hard way is these nikkas deep down had NO honor cause ain't no honor amongst thieves and criminals... and all these stories end the same...

Most of that article was shyt was speculated like fukk all over the place.

The truth of the matter is pac got played by these nikkas. He fukked with them because he saw they were really handling their business above the typical street level and he was impressed by that. Pac ran with typical hood nikkas, real nikkas for the most part, but just thug nikkas without many connects in the world. He link up with these nikkas and shyt started to change, he started to see a higher level. These nikkas had him in clubs, kept bytches on deck, and even gamed him up on fashion. He had respect and admiration for these cats and they played him, live and learn but keep in mind the nikka was 23 YEARS OLD

History shows that pac was a real nikka. He didn't snitch on the nikkas that betrayed him and had him clapped. No matter what version of the story you hear about that quad shooting, pac wasn't backing down. nikkas can't come up with one story about some rap nikkas from ANYWHERE bytching him, and besides that quad shooting, no street nikkas bytching him either (if you can even call that gettin bytched). All this shyt about this nikka gettin leaned on and raped in jail is all SPECULATION FROM HATERS AND SQUARE nikkaS.

For the life of me I can't see a real nikka with understanding of the rules could ever call pac a fake nikka

BREAD N BUTTAZZ

 

[Fredrick Thuglas]

call him what u want but you would have got shot saying anything to his face....ask meech what happened in la

I don't know Meech, but if you know what happened in LA, can you tell us

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

Most of that article was shyt was speculated like fukk all over the place.

The truth of the matter is pac got played by these nikkas. He fukked with them because he saw they were really handling their business above the typical street level and he was impressed by that. Pac ran with typical hood nikkas, real nikkas for the most part, but just thug nikkas without many connects in the world. He link up with these nikkas and shyt started to change, he started to see a higher level. These nikkas had him in clubs, kept bytches on deck, and even gamed him up on fashion. He had respect and admiration for these cats and they played him, live and learn but keep in mind the nikka was 23 YEARS OLD

History shows that pac was a real nikka. He didn't snitch on the nikkas that betrayed him and had him clapped. No matter what version of the story you hear about that quad shooting, pac wasn't backing down. nikkas can't come up with one story about some rap nikkas from ANYWHERE bytching him, and besides that quad shooting, no street nikkas bytching him either (if you can even call that gettin bytched). All this shyt about this nikka gettin leaned on and raped in jail is all SPECULATION FROM HATERS AND SQUARE nikkaS.

For the life of me I can't see a real nikka with understanding of the rules could ever call pac a fake nikka

BREAD N BUTTAZZ

only the stans such as u will try to say that link to jacks bio is pure speculation

i guess everything after pacs death about jack is pure speculation too

the stans dont even want to learn they just wanna be mad and hold on to their story

 

[spliz]

pac had alot of heart but not the heart to deal with these dudes. the universal misconception is pac had new york nikkaz shook because of yelling on records when nikkaz didnt care about theater....in reality pac was scared for his life. he knew who he was dealing with and both jack and jimmy were bi-coastal eating at the time.

every man has a slight fear of death agreed ....some much more than others but personally from what i have seen maybe true or false but jack nor tut had bytch in them as far as the streets was concerned just bein 100..

them nikkaz is rotten applez

I think majority of these kingpins do...honestly...a lot of em go out in the most bytch made way...handling shyt with emotions...turning they back on they friends..snitchin...killin homies over money, jealousy, or a bytch...workin wit the govt to cover they own ass...NO honor my nikka...Pac was young nikka caught up...but people goin as far as callin him a "fake" nikka is trippin imo..he was just dealin with and having issues with nikkas more powerful than him...nothin much he could do...

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

I don't know Meech, but if you know what happened in LA, can you tell us

read the link.....read the whole bio.....read the link read the whole bio....

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

I think majority of these kingpins do...honestly...a lot of em go out in the most bytch made way...handling shyt with emotions...turning they back on they friends..snitchin...killin homies over money, jealousy, or a bytch...workin wit the govt to cover they own ass...NO honor my nikka...Pac was young nikka caught up...but people goin as far as callin him a "fake" nikka is trippin imo..he was just dealin with and having issues with nikkas more powerful than him...nothin much he could do...

i agree with you about most of what u said fam... i do think calling pac fake is extreme view and i might have been guilty at times of that myself but i also cant downplay how he was not real all the time . he manipulated his beef with a few street niccaz in ny to a bi-coastal beef with numerous rappers to save face instead of goin at the nikkaz he knew shot him....thats just not real niccuh ish...jmo

 

[spliz]

i agree with you about most of what u said fam... i do think calling pac fake is extreme view and i might have been guilty at times of that myself but i also cant downplay how he was not real all the time . he manipulated his beef with a few street niccaz in ny to a bi-coastal beef with numerous rappers to save face instead of goin at them personally jmo

I think he and Big was a pawn in that bi coastal beef...and Alotta those rappers was doin funny shyt behind the scenes..Pac was personally callin nikkas tryna tell em that he didn't have a problem wit em...some nikkas just chose to ride on the behalf of Biggie and still pop lil shyt...sneak diss him..do little behind the scenes shyt...then hide they hands like they was innocent and he was just wildin...I'm not sayin Pac was all the way innocent...but it was alotta bytch made shyt goin on in the industry at the time as well...

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

I think he and Big was a pawn in that bi coastal beef...and Alotta those rappers was doin funny shyt behind the scenes..Pac was personally callin nikkas tryna tell em that he didn't have a problem wit em...some nikkas just chose to ride on the behalf of Biggie and still pop lil shyt...sneak diss him..do little behind the scenes shyt...then hide they hands like they was innocent and he was just wildin...I'm not sayin Pac was all the way innocent...but it was alotta bytch made shyt goin on in the industry at the time as well...

agreed.....big/pac were def just pawns......probably true on some rappers part but also on pac part with the fake rap movements.......i think he was noid and wasnt trying to hear ish after what he endured

 

[newarkhiphop]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10QbUd5QRtU][1998] 2Pac - In His Own Words continued part 3 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[newarkhiphop]

another good long read

Look this shyt the whole real deal truth about this shyt. Those who in the streets or industry will know this he truth.

Pac got shot because, the nikkas extorting/funded Bad Boy, looked out for the nikka while he was in NY. The nikka Pac was told by numerous people stay away from these nikkas Look what they already doing to the nikkas at Bad Boy. Don't get caught up. Pac didn't listen. So when it came time for the nikkas who looked out for Pac to ask a favor (Sign to Bad Boy) Pac said naw he was cool.

That nikka ain't ride with them nikkas , they felt they was disrespected, but didn't show they hand yet. Pac meets groupie (who's one of the Brooklyn nikkas introduced him too.) He fukks the bytch, blah, catches teh rape case. Now know there was 3 or 4 nikkas all caught them same case. The nikkas who introduced him got his trial separated from Pacs. Now if you know anything about the law that's impossible, unless you cooperating with police, is already an informant, or you took a plea deal. There was no plea deal. So you tell me what you think was going on on that end?

Pac started wilding out calling nikkas snitches, and all sorts of shyt in public and papers. Remember think on this level, not John Gotti big, but bigger than say Preme are these nigags he talking reckless about. But also these nikkas got ties to nikkas on the level of John Gotti, black gangsters, white gangsters etc. So Treach and nikkas who really held Pac down tried to cool all that shyt. Where Pac really fukked up, was he shoudl've never no matter how bad you needed the money, gone to that studio to go fukk with a nikka who heavey with the nikkas you got beef with. Pac already saw Puffy and them nikkas was knee deep was these nikkas . He should've known regardless what his relationship was with the money nikkas that you have to keep your guard up during war. So anyways before that Biggie did holla at pac, a couple weeks before the shooting to say watch yourself, but (He wouldn't say who to watchout for.)

Them Bad Boy nikkas knew Pac was gonna get hit up that night. Biggie knew Pac was coming to the studio. Biggie didn't say shyt because them nikkas let be known mind your business, and puff rolling with them nikkas he ain't about to bite the hand that protects/feeds him. I don't care where you from, if u rolling with a nikkas hanging out chilling at a nikkas crib, eating food with the nikkas . No matter if you ain't the best of hiomies (No Pac and Biggie weren't likE brothers, but they kicked it alot) YOU IS A HOES ASS FOR NOT TELLING A nikka LIKE PAC HE BOUT TO GET WET UP. I DON'T CARE YOU COULDV'E SENT A LINE THROUGH A MUTUAL nikka, SOMETHING TO LET PAC KNOW. DO NOT COME TO TEH STUDIO AND WHO THE nikkas ARE, TRYING TO GET YOU fukkED UP. I'm a biggie fan and he knew from that day on, he'd have to ride with them nikkas the rest of his life, and he could never be forgiven for that.

Back to Quad studio night. Cease hanging out the window showing love, like it's all good. So Pac feeling less cautious. He gets hit up. Stretch got turned out by the nikkas and gave Pac up. Str8 up the truth. Pac was mad cuz nikkas had no heart. How you not gonna have the heart to tell a nikka at the very least you cool with, man SO AND SO, go hit you tonight don't come through. Damn if any nikkas defends this, We all know what cloth you cut from. I'll admit this Puffy in this situation is less culpable and grimey because he never rocked with Pac like that. To him it was ALL BUSINESS AND THIS WAS NONE OF HIS BIZNESS. But Biggie, that;s just grimey son. You lookout and let a nikka know.

Anyways cops on scene (SAME COPS WHO ARRESTED HIM FOR RAPE. COINCIDENCE? NO. DEM nikkas HAD CLOUT) Pac taken to hospital. Now to show you what kind of nikkas Pac wnet tow ar with. Name me one hospital, that any regular nikka coudl call and get the number of the room you staying in direct phone line number, when you checked in under the name of an alias? No one. Dem was for real. Pac and his nikkas got spooked even with Nation of Islam there (They killers but ain't got them thangs on em, feel me?), so they went to other "REAL nikkas IN NY" who held Pac down. Remember Pac had nikkas like Treach, Freddie Foxxx (who really got street nikkas ) and Black Panther family from NY. So them nikkas knew the right nikkas who wouldn't allow him to get touched while he recovering. There's a reason why Pac never said who he went to while recovering (Because he was another Big Time Street nikka in NY, Foxx know him)

Anyways fast forward Pac convicted guilty of sexual abuse (NOT RAPE). Co Defendant, different trial lots of prior felonies, gets probation. What it look like to you? No I actually don't think he a snitch, it was a set up and they knew powerful nikkas Not a set up by prosecution per say, but higher power ups.

No Pac did not get raped in jail, once again he did have "REAL nikkas " from the outside who had him covered. Yes they wanted to get him, but they couldn't. What most fo you may not know. Time Warner owned Interscope, the publicity from Deathrow and Pac was putting strain on them, WHITE INVESTORS, SPONSORS AIN'T NEVER SEEN THIS KIND OF shyt OUT IN open with crimes and etc. in music before. (Remember out in the open.) So they putting the heat on Iovine, who him and his partner signed 2pac and gave Deathrow power so to speak. Iovine a money man, ain't no way he losing out Deathrow or Pac, so he made biz move.

Pac was Deathrow before he evEr knew he was Deathrow. To appease Time WARNER for the time being, he had to give Pac up. So instead of releasing him he gave him to SUGE (Who always wanted Pac on Deathrow) So when Suge and them at first start coming to Pac to join Deathrow, he was cool on that because he had a relationship with Jimmy Iovine ( they really was cool) and he knew he would lose mad control and dollars if he signed under an imprint like Deathrow to go through Interscope. I won't go into specifics here, (Save that for a future unveiling) But basically Interscope squeezed Pac, till basically he had no choice but to sign with Deathrow, because he needed money and he wanted out of jail. Understand you DO NOT GET A RELEASE FROM ANY LABEL IN ONE DAY OR ONE WEEK. THAT PAPERWORK LONG, WE TALKING WEEKS , REALLY MORE LIKE MONTHS BEFORE A DEAL LIKE A RELEASE FROM INTERSCOPE COULD BE NEGOTIATED AND THEM SIGN OFF, ON A move to another imprint, no matter if Deathrow under Interscope or not. If you ever seen a music Industry contract you know this. (Look at the Lox, Joe Buddens, Game, all them nikkas it took months to leave situations.) The only way something like this happens as quickly as it did with pac, is on some MOB/ Extortion shyt, which they heavy in the biz obviously, or some SHADY BACKROOM TYPE DEAL.

This move appeases Time Warner for the time being, because it now looks like Interscope is not directly co signing these artists or Labels doing crime or being villified in the newspapers. They can now take a stance of hey we just provide an outlet, like anyone else for these people to get their music out. We are strictly distributors, if you hold us responsible, then BEST BUY, ETC should be also who carry the music. IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING, YOU KNOW AIN'T NO ONE POWERFUL ENOUGH TO GO UP AGAINST BEST BUY, WAL MART, OR ANY CONGLOMERATE LIKE THAT. THAT'S OLD RICH WHITE MONEY WITH TIES TO SO MANY FEDERAL POCKETS, THAT IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN). So now the heat off of Interscope and Time Warners for a little, since they are strictly distributors. (Even though we know better than that. But how may people outside of music Industry do?) At least at the time. So Iovine got best of both worlds now, keeps public face fro Interscope, and keeps one of his most profitable artists and still makes money from Pac and Deathrow. Public Perception is everything, PUFFY WAS MASTER OF THIS DURING THIS TIME. "Real bad Boy's movie in silence"

So he signs with Suge in Jail with Kenner present, a contract that would hold up in no Court of Law. I'm talking No court of law would uphold this CONTRACT. Conflict of INTEREST IS HUGE IN COURTS. YOU CANNOT BE SIGNED TO A nikkas LABEL AND BE UNDER THEIR MANAGEMENT AND BE HELD TO THOSE TERMS. THAT ALONE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. LET ALONE A LAWYER HAVE POWER OF ATTORNEY WHO REPRESENTS THE LABEL OWNER AND THEIR MANAGER. ANY JUDGE VOIDING THAT CONTRACT WITH TERMS LIKE THAT. BECAUSE THERE IS NO CHECKS IN BALANCE FOR WHO IS PROTECTING THE ARTIST'S INTEREST. THE LAWYER ALWAYS GONNA RIDE FOR THE LABEL HEAD, AND THE LABEL HEAD ALWAYS GONNA RIDE FOR HIS POCKETS. Yes this was grimey, but I will say IT WAS GRIMEY BIZ TACTICS, BUT SUGE DID HOLD PAC DOWN AGAINST BAD BOY AND PROVIDE PROTECTION NO ONE ELSE COULD. BUT THAT'S A HUGE PRICE TO ASK. AND NO SUGE, DID NOT, I REPEAT DID NOT KILL PAC. SO STOP WITH THAT BULLshyt THEORY. THE STREETS KNOW WHO GOT PAC.

ALRIGHT THAT'S THE FIRST HALF OF THIS STORY. DIGEST READ AND UNDERSTAND AND THEN I WILL POST 2ND HALF OF FACTS OF this STORY.

ANY REAL nikkas OR INDUSTRY KAT KNOWS THIS IS 100 PERCENT OF THE TRUTH.

AND YES THIS STORY WAY DEEPER THAN YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE. SO MANY MORE HANDS MANIPULATED AND HELPED/CAUSED WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN PAC & BIG. AND DEATHROW AND BAD BOY. CRAZY IS MOST THESE nikkas STILL IN THE INDUSTRY AND OPPOSITE SIDES STILL DO BIZ TOGETHER. SHOWS YOU THEIR NO LOYALTY WHEN IT COME TO THAT PAPER.