Why tupac feared hatian jack the biggest gangsta in hip hop history

[nineteeneightysix]

Jack did snitch later on though, pac only called him out in public after Haitian jacks crew dam near killed him

i dont think pac wanted that comment he made to the reporter ever to get out

Pac called him out on record..."Against All Odds"...

 

[newarkhiphop]

I love these types of threads. Props to all that contributed, this shyt is mind blowing. I live in alabama and bmf is deep here or it was, but before jeezy nooooobody knew who them nikkaz were.

i love reading this shytt, yea the whole BMF/PUFF/WOLF situation like i said before is another cluster fuk


man we need ceejames/sugeknightjr on this site

That's far from the truth....it's just a smokescreen to shield what really went down...

and your just repeating what you "heard"

but the truth is alot more darker and substansive than two niccas arguing over some byatch at the club...

which is basically this": Wolf was Diddy's co defendant during that Shyne shooting in the club in NYC....

Wolf was also Diddy's no. 1 enforcer but head of his security as well

Wolf helped clean up alot of situations for Diddy, but the Shyne shooting and the way it was handled left a bad taste in Wolf's mouth and basically strained thier (diddy wolf) relationship

with each party accusing the other of not being a standup guy, not too mention Diddy was looking to make major moves in places other than NYC such as Miami, LA and ATL ....

Wolf didn't make the adjustment well because his relationships and reputation was rather damaged ever since the Jake Roble/ Suge Knight confrontation in Atl...

Diddy needed somebody whom could not only provide security but "political relationships" (connections) in the street as well as the industry that would allow Diddy to move about in a post Pac, Biggie , Shyne shooting environment...

whom better than Meech who has relationships with virtually every "street exec" in the biz from Suge Knight to Zoe Pound's "Blind"...

also sheltering himself from any fallout if Wolf was to cosign Kirk Burroughs (Diddy's business manager) court statements that Diddy really did have "thugs on salary" and that thier was much more to the Shyne situation...

This where Meech and a certain O.G crip with strong LA and Harlem ties fit in, Wolf feeling a sense of unworthiness is furthered disenchanted when Diddy assigns him to the ATL area i.e (justins) out of harms way because NYC was much too hot for Wolf at this time and appoints Meech's bodyguard Paul Buford as head of security with Wolf playing the role of subordinate as well as his

Prior to that Meech and Wolf was always cordial, the shift in command, inspires Wolf to find not only another role to fulfill but an alternate means of "income" which placed him in a confrontational position with Meech who at this time 2003 is sitting on top of the world litearly

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

I love these types of threads. Props to all that contributed, this shyt is mind blowing. I live in alabama and bmf is deep here or it was, but before jeezy nooooobody knew who them nikkaz were.

just trying to shed some light homie.... i read so much misconceptions on here....mostly by dudes who was 5 or 6 when this was going down or nikkaz who have no connection to this ish and now they experts telling me what was really good off songs and internet explorer

 

[Mac Casper]

From what I've been told by reliable people Tupac was kept safe while he in both Rikers and Clinton by a myriad of connections mostly derived through family.

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

From what I've been told by reliable people Tupac was kept safe while he in both Rikers and Clinton by a myriad of connections mostly derived through family.

maybe you right.....im sure pac had some connects here but jack's arms are very long and have always been....even now they reach over from another country.....my cousin was on the island when pac was there ......b4 the whole east/west ish jumped off he mentioned back then pac got "touched/fondled" way b4 wendy williams reported it or mobb deep/biggie put it in a ryhme...... i tend to go with first hand info not wax or interviews on the same note your scenario could be right as well

 

[Xtraz2]

snitch ass nikka

+

 

[Mike Otherz]

Maybe it's me but it sound like you are celebrating Haitian jack in here. Like he was the baddest sociopath. That's nothing to glorify.

 

[drugxglory]

Maybe it's me but it sound like you are celebrating Haitian jack in here. Like he was the baddest sociopath. That's nothing to glorify.

 

[Harry B]

I can't hate on jack for anything that happened to Pac, cats knew what the deal was when messing with shady cats like these Haitians.

shyt like this will never happen to me, cause I know what the god damn deal is. If I wanna play the game, I shouldn't be mad that chances are high that I will lose like 99.9% that ever played that game.

 

[Hannibal Fox]

Maybe it's me but it sound like you are celebrating Haitian jack in here. Like he was the baddest sociopath. That's nothing to glorify.

It comes off that way and I don't think it's intended, however there are a lot of people that view Tupac in the same vein, there this weird perception of Tupac being some sort of divine gangster messiah, which quite frankly is a case of fiction and reality colliding in epic fashion.

It reminds me of a skit on Freddie Foxx's - Industry Shakedown, where he comments on what happens when actual crooks get in the ear of a rapper, who portrays a particular life that he's only ever seen at a glance, he's not deep, but the crook will feed into the guys ego, gas him up of you will, the rapper will stick em on the payroll, sooner or later that shyt begins to bleed over (drake as a modern day example) but the reality is this, the rapper is food (in this case Tupac was the meal) he is the one that will ultimately be left holding his nuts when the authorities come calling, not mobster x.

The crook on the other hand will continue to and look for his next victim.

Moral of the story:

RAPPERS ARE FOOD

 

[EducatedBrothaFromTheBank]

Sounds to me like this Hatian Jack character is just another In a long list of overhyped washed up former NYC kingpins turned snitches..

This nikka ain't no different than any other bum, only reason we talkin about him is cuz PAC called him out and made him relevant

 

[Harry B]

Sounds to me like this Hatian Jack character is just another In a long list of overhyped washed up former NYC kingpins turned snitches..

This nikka ain't no different than any other bum, only reason we talkin about him is cuz PAC called him out and made him relevant

Is there ever a reason to talk about a street dude unless he gets involved in the corporate/media business? Or is controlling the dope flow all over the world like Escobar and them did back in the days?

 

[inndaskKy]

No one ever disputes that Haitian Jack was more heavy in the streets than 2pac. However, you just seem to glorify him and add little twists to the story that are unsubstantiated.

u need to read the link fam it will help yall nikkaz clear up all these wrong facts yall be pointing to just on some unbiased ish 4 real........jack wasnt a snitch then at all.....pac was mad jack lawyer got him 6months and pac got railroaded because of his celebrity status real talk...

A lot of information in that article is pure speculation and other information is just plainly wrong (such as Pac being murdered in 1997, Stretch getting shot in the '94 shooting is false I believe as well).

It mentions a lot of good info such as the ties between all these people but it interprets the details in a very speculative, yet matter-of-fact way which makes it unreliable. For example, if you believe the bolded above is true, that Jack got off simply because he had a better lawyer, you're either completely naive or just not looking for the truth. The article speaks nothing of how unfortunate it was for 2pac to be caught up in the whole rape situation in the first place, like it wasn't a fishy situation.

maybe you right.....im sure pac had some connects here but jack's arms are very long and have always been....even now they reach over from another country.....my cousin was on the island when pac was there ......b4 the whole east/west ish jumped off he mentioned back then pac got "touched/fondled" way b4 wendy williams reported it or mobb deep/biggie put it in a ryhme...... i tend to go with first hand info not wax or interviews on the same note your scenario could be right as well

This here is just another unsubstantiated claim a la Wendy Williams herself. You believe Pac got touched because 'your cousin mentioned it' yet you dismiss all the rumors about Haitan Jack being a snitch already in '94. How convenient..

 

[BREAD N BUTTERZ]

It comes off that way and I don't think it's intended, however there are a lot of people that view Tupac in the same vein, there this weird perception of Tupac being some sort of divine gangster messiah, which quite frankly is a case of fiction and reality colliding in epic fashion.

It reminds me of a skit on Freddie Foxx's - Industry Shakedown, where he comments on what happens when actual crooks get in the ear of a rapper, who portrays a particular life that he's only ever seen at a glance, he's not deep, but the crook will feed into the guys ego, gas him up of you will, the rapper will stick em on the payroll, sooner or later that shyt begins to bleed over (drake as a modern day example) but the reality is this, the rapper is food (in this case Tupac was the meal) he is the one that will ultimately be left holding his nuts when the authorities come calling, not mobster x.

The crook on the other hand will continue to and look for his next victim.

Moral of the story:

RAPPERS ARE FOOD

THANK YOU.....couldnt have put it no better.....my point isnt to glorify haitian jack but to expose the truth about how ish really works in hip hop how,THE REAL WORLD and what really happened during the east/west debacle from someone who knew people involved. Easily pac happens to represent the biggest illusion in hiphop as far as what people think a gangsta is and jack easily represents the biggest truth about what a gangsta actually is and how they move in hip hop and real life. i could replace him with several rappers if anything wyclef was jack's biggest meal so the rappers are interchangeable.....not trying to get people to stan pac any less but to stop equating these ducktale records to real life facts because there is no comparison. was pac a real dude yes.....did he have some bytch in him yes. him and all these other rappers do to. reality>>>>>>>recordings and character acting...raps/internet got these lil niccaz fugged up especially...they should stan pac for his pro black mindset not that fake gangsta ish he portrayed....when you start to blurr the real history from the music then people end up misinformed in 2012...

 

[spliz]

THANK YOU.....couldnt have put it no better.....my point isnt to glorify haitian jack but to expose the truth about how ish really works in hip hop how,THE REAL WORLD and what really happened during the east/west debacle from someone who knew people involved. Easily pac happens to represent the biggest illusion in hiphop as far as what people think a gangsta is and jack easily represents the biggest truth about what a gangsta actually is and how they move in hip hop and real life. i could replace him with several rappers if anything wyclef was jack's biggest meal so the rappers are interchangeable.....not trying to get people to stan pac any less but to stop equating these ducktale records to real life facts because there is no comparison. was pac a real dude yes.....did he have some bytch in him yes. him and all these other rappers do to. reality>>>>>>>recordings and character acting...raps/internet got these lil niccaz fugged up especially...they should stan pac for his pro black mindset not that fake gangsta ish he portrayed....when you start to blurr the real history from the music then people end up misinformed in 2012...

Pac was never looked at as a gangsta but more a real nikka wit Alotta heart...but let's not act like he had bytch in em but these "kingpins" didn't...half these nikkas fell off the face of the earth cause of the bytch tendencies...what Pac had to learn the hard way is these nikkas deep down had NO honor cause ain't no honor amongst thieves and criminals... and all these stories end the same...