Why successful black men are a$$holes

[kayslay]

I kno it aint pc but what you call slut shaming, it works. I dont find it as slut shaming coming from a male perspective if a man tells 'you not to act out too much in a sexual manner its out of love.

Women who arent told this usually end up being hoes, U cant argue with that

Yeah, but when those women grow up and are conservative you cant fault them for it. That's all im saying.

 

[Maximus]

How can you seclude yourself and them complain about being ignored?.

???
I'm confused. Who's secluding themselves?

Men usually do the approaching in our community so if you arent making your interest known how can you get upset.

Most of those men are approaching...they're just getting rejected - and sometimes in the most humiliating way possible.

And please you've seen these videos of these women..are they unattractive?.

That's for the black men approaching them to decide. I am a man, and men approach women we are attracted to. So, if those women aren't being approached, it's likely because they are unattractive or have an incredibly bad aura. Men don't ignore women they are attracted to.

Yall want to keep framing the argument as pass their prime struggling single mothers are the only BW that approach yall and we all know that's BS.

Post-prime single mothers make up a sizeable chunk of the chicks trying to jump on the gravy train, even though they put no work in to get there. Also no one is saying that it's ONLY women of that sort who are coming at successful Black men, for when a man becomes successful, all groups of women come out of the woodworks and are suddenly interested.

What I am saying is that black women are held in no more special regard than non-black women in that situation because she, like the non-black women, played no role in contributing to his success - she's simply interested in him because of his money and status. Therefore, the successful black man owes nothing to the black women interested. That's my point.

BTW you used the word "yall." This doesn't apply to me, personally - at least not since high school. Then again, I'm not really a nerd per se.

Just earlier in this thread a dude said he was interested in a Latina who is a single mom on his job, And one of his co-workers pointed out 3 of the childless educated financial secure black women that were interested in him that he conveniently ignored.

Perhaps it will be better if you spoke with him about that. I have a strict NO SINGLE MOTHERS policy myself, so this doesn't apply to me.

I get it's about black men. What I don't get is this false narrative that other races value the nerdy type before he makes it while black women ignores him until after he makes it. That's simply not true, and you're talking to someone who was an IT major and was on the deans list most of my college career.

That wasn't about women, it was about comparing and contrasting communitites. They are support systems in place that are set up to help asipiring men (doctors, engineers, computer science majors, etc.) in non-black communities; the black community largely ignores men who are trying to make something of themselves outside of sports or (rap) music, and that's an ugly truth. This largely why many successful black men don't feel as compelled to give back to their community like non-black men do. Why would a man feel compelled to give back to a community that, for the most part, didn't help him get to where he is? I'm not saying I agree with that, but that's where many of them are coming from. Black America has to do a better job in investing in Black children's future.

bytches didn't give two fukks about my major when I tried to get at them. When I was in college it was more about the basic shyt you had, like a car and your own place (even if you had room mates).

Yes, I know. I had a rather...active college life as it pertains to my dalliances with the opposite sex, and I still visit college campuses for that reason today. I have no shame.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

I believe a lot of successful black men are a$$holes because when they were broke or average most black women never gave them the time of day and looked at them in disgust. But now that they're successful these same women come in flocks. They didn't want to build a future with these men, they wanted the finished product. It's kind of like payback for black men and plus black men have way more options when they're successful.

that happens to all stars... all the race shyt is unneccessary... you meet a star in real life and 9 times out of 10, they gonna hurry your ass up out of their life... or be a total dikk

why?? cause they wanted to be a star or successful since birth... and for 10-20-30 years, people laughed and said they couldn't... and when they did, the same people sucking they dikks like they love them

so they basically like


shyt i imagine if i got on with music i'd be the same way... oh word nikka... my music saved your life... but when i was handing you that mixtape outside the club, you frisbeed it into the trash... fukk you, where your bytch at


that's why kanye is kanye... spend a life making beats and music for your own team to be like "nah nikka you can't rap" then blow all them out the water and sell plat every time.. then watch the same nikkas like "yo son i always felt your shyt, can i get a pic or some beats or a signature or a feature" bytch no

 

[mamba]

That wasn't about women, it was about comparing and contrasting communitites. They are support systems in place that are set up to help asipiring men (doctors, engineers, computer science majors, etc.) in non-black communities; the black community largely ignores men who are trying to make something of themselves outside of sports or (rap) music, and that's an ugly truth. This largely why many successful black men don't feel as compelled to give back to their community like non-black men do. Why would a man feel compelled to give back to a community that, for the most part, didn't help him get to where he is? I'm not saying I agree with that, but that's where many of them are coming from. Black America has to do a better job in investing in Black children's future.

That's one of the main points I was trying to get across.

Black American women want to compare successful men of other groups (non-Western) with successful non-athlete/non-entertainer Black American men. Men in those other groups are invested in and championed by their communities as they're working toward success. So, those men feel obligated to turn around and invest back in the community once they make it.

Other than rappers and athletes, most other Black men working to better themselves aren't celebrated in the Black community on the way up the ladder. Pookie coming fresh out of prison gets more love than the nikka studying biochemistry. Imagine if the nikka studying biochemistry got that same type of love throughout the process. Imagine if he got extravagant parties thrown after he graduates.

The more and more he achieves, with no support from the Black community, the less inclined he is to feel obligated to invest back.

It's not about being bitter or anything else. It's just human nature.

Think about all the teachers you had growing up. There are some you'll never forget and quite a few who are completely forgotten. Those you'll never forget are typically those who impacted your life in a tangible way. They invested in you. They believed in you.

You always want to go back and say "Thank You" to those types.

To the ones who had no tangible impact, it's just

 

[mamba]

Not all black men but yall complain about bw not being as out going as other races of women but dont take into account why.
AND women would have sex more if it wasnt demonized by men.

Black American women aren't as outgoing as women of other races. That's pretty common knowledge. Black American women have very few hobbies and interests outside reality TV, shopping, gossip, Jesus, etc. It's not much better for Black American men. Most brehs don't have many hobbies or interests, either.

Black Americans, in general, don't know how to have much fun beyond the standard club/party scene.

 

[Yup]

That's one of the main points I was trying to get across.

Black American women want to compare successful men of other groups (non-Western) with successful non-athlete/non-entertainer Black American men. Men in those other groups are invested in and championed by their communities as they're working toward success. So, those men feel obligated to turn around and invest back in the community once they make it.

Other than rappers and athletes, most other Black men working to better themselves aren't celebrated in the Black community on the way up the ladder. Pookie coming fresh out of prison gets more love than the nikka studying biochemistry. Imagine if the nikka studying biochemistry got that same type of love throughout the process. Imagine if he got extravagant parties thrown after he graduates.

The more and more he achieves, with no support from the Black community, the less inclined he is to feel obligated to invest back.

It's not about being bitter or anything else. It's just human nature.

Think about all the teachers you had growing up. There are some you'll never forget and quite a few who are completely forgotten. Those you'll never forget are typically those who impacted your life in a tangible way. They invested in you. They believed in you.

You always want to go back and say "Thank You" to those types.

So every black man that has not been thrown a bashfest are justified to turn their backs on their community. Lol, ok most people are not going to give you an extra pat on the back for getting an education and getting a well paying job. This is the natural progression of life...but anyway. Essentially, you're saying not only are successful black men are few but they are justified for not reaching back to the black community. Ok.

 

[mamba]

So every black man that has not been thrown a bashfest are justified to turn their backs on their community. Lol, ok most people are not going to give you an extra pat on the back for getting an education and getting a well paying job. This is the natural progression of life...but anyway. Essentially, you're saying not only are successful black men are few but they are justified for not reaching back to the black community. Ok.

Never said it's justified. I just understand why they do what they do.

I'm a successful non-athlete/non entertainer Black man. My friends are successful non-athlete/non-entertainer Black men. I'm trying to give you some insight. You can either take it or leave it.

 

[Yup]

Black American women aren't as outgoing as women of other races. That's pretty common knowledge. Black American women have very few hobbies and interests outside reality TV, shopping, gossip, Jesus, etc. It's not much better for Black American men. Most brehs don't have many hobbies or interests, either.

Black Americans, in general, don't know how to have much fun beyond the standard club/party scene.

How is that a black american woman problem? And why not reach out to black american women who have said interest. If black men and black women share similar attitudes on life why do you single them out ad nauseum instead of acknowledging it as a black people problem?

 

[mamba]

How is that a black american woman problem? And why not reach out to black american women who have said interest. If black men and black women share similar attitudes on life why do you single them out ad nauseum instead of acknowledging it as a black people problem?

Did you not see the part where I said Black Americans, in general, don't know how to have fun outside the standard club/party scene? Black men also have very few hobbies and interests.

Black culture has a limited definition of what fun is.

 

[Yup]

Never said it's justified. I just understand why they do what they do.

I'm a successful Black man. My friends are successful Black men. I'm trying to give you some insight. You can either take it or leave it.

The insight that you give me is not my reality. I don't know any african man that would turn his back on his community because he was not getting black girls in high school/middle school.

The arguments you are giving I can't wrap mt mind around it. What I do know due to empirical evidence is as black men ascend to higher position they are less likely to settle down and build with a woman but more likely to live for themselves. Blacks are never going to get out of the cycle of poverty this way.

I think this is a cultural disconnect, I don't undertsand it.

 

[mamba]

The insight that you give me is not my reality. I don't know any african man that would turn his back on his community because he was not getting black girls in high school/middle school.

The arguments you are giving I can't wrap mt mind around it. What I do know due to empirical evidence is as black men ascend o higher position they are less likely to settle down and build with a woman but morr likely to live for themselves. Blacks are never going to get out of the cycle of poverty this way.

Didn't I just emphasize it's a Black American problem? African bruddahs get support from their communities as they're working their way up the ladder of success. So, they invest back.

It's not about high school or any other shyt. It's about Black American culture (of which Black woman are a part) and it's tendency to not invest in and champion productive Black American men as much as we do non-productive men.

 

[Yup]

Didn't I just emphasize it's a Black American problem? African bruddahs get support from their communities as they're working their way up the ladder of success. So, they invest back.

It's not about high school or any other shyt. It's about Black American culture (of which Black woman are a part) and it's tendency to not invest in and champion productive Black American men as much as we do non-productive men.

Like I said cultural disconnect.

 

[mamba]

The insight that you give me is not my reality. I don't know any african man that would turn his back on his community because he was not getting black girls in high school/middle school.

The arguments you are giving I can't wrap mt mind around it. What I do know due to empirical evidence is as black men ascend to higher position they are less likely to settle down and build with a woman but more likely to live for themselves. Blacks are never going to get out of the cycle of poverty this way.

I think this is a cultural disconnect, I don't undertsand it.

Successful Black men marrying more Black women will not break the cycle of poverty. Those women will simply spend the money and continue to enrich non-Blacks. Not much different than the successful Black man sharing his money with a non-Black woman!

Black people will begin to break the cycle of poverty when Black women and men couple up and build families the right way. Not all this single mother/baby daddy garbage.

Black people will begin to break the cycle of poverty when the Black community begins to value education as much as we do entertainment and fukkery.

 

[mamba]

Like I said cultural disconnect.

Yes. Which is why I've emphasized the Black American community, in particular, and not Black people, in general.

Other communities are different.

 

[Opus]

@kayslay

19? You have not experienced anything at all yet you speak in huge generalizations. Plus you are indeed foul mouthed.

And just fyi. 33 percent of marriages are between people within 2 years of each other. 25% the man is 5 -10 years older. 4% the woman is 5-10 years older.

when you adjust for income, richer men tending to marry younger women, I'd feel comfortable saying the plurality of well off men marry women 5-10 years younger.

So 30 plus successful men are doing exactly as they should. Putting these bytches through the ringer. We have until our 40s then it gets tough. Women have until 28. My shelf life is as long as yours for example. Should worry about yourself