Why pay $499 for checkerboard 4K when you can pay $399?

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welcome to capitalism. marketing walks the line of being misleading

...now lemme tell you about how this Omega Fish Oil can change your life :smugfavre:
 

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They know exactly what the hell they are doing.



"4K" gameplay :mjlol:

One is saying your games will look better on a 4K TV with dynamic 4K and the other is saying we don't need to rely on dynamic 4K because our box is true 4K and when developers make dynamic games they say we'll that's up to them not our fault.

It's misleading marketing that shifts the blame on others when disproven. There's other bullshyt Sony pulls that they need to be called out for like cross platform multiplayer but this isn't one of them. Out of the gate Sony pushed checkerboard 4K and broke it down for everyone.
 

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One is saying your games will look better on a 4K TV with dynamic 4K and the other is saying we don't need to rely on dynamic 4K because our box is true 4K and when developers make dynamic games they say we'll that's up to them not our fault.

It's misleading marketing that shifts the blame on others when disproven. There's other bullshyt Sony pulls that they need to be called out for like cross platform multiplayer but this isn't one of them. Out of the gate Sony pushed checkerboard 4K and broke it down for everyone.


4k gameplay:mjlol:
 

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4k gameplay:mjlol:

From a marketing standpoint "our box does checkerboard 4K too but it has more power than their's even if it's checkerboard 4K still" doesn't sound as nice does it? If you say their 4K is fake and ours does true 4K that's something the average Joe can understand even if that's intentionally deceptive.
 

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how is that misleading? The PS4 Pro does do dynamic 4K. There's a big difference between the words "dynamic" and "true".

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One is saying your games will look better on a 4K TV with dynamic 4K and the other is saying we don't need to rely on dynamic 4K because our box is true 4K and when developers make dynamic games they say we'll that's up to them not our fault.

It's misleading marketing that shifts the blame on others when disproven. There's other bullshyt Sony pulls that they need to be called out for like cross platform multiplayer but this isn't one of them. Out of the gate Sony pushed checkerboard 4K and broke it down for everyone.
Okay, I looked it up a little more. It does appear that Sony was upfront about their 4k not being "true 4k" and also saying there is no easy visible difference between dynamic and true.

Phil says his console will produce 4k. If he's already been able to show native 4k games on it, is that not the truth?

Even if you've had a 4k PC today... How likely is it that you'd be able to easily play 4k with the same efficiency?
 
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From a marketing standpoint "our box does checkerboard 4K too but it has more power than their's even if it's checkerboard 4K still" doesn't sound as nice does it? If you say their 4K is fake and ours does true 4K that's something the average Joe can understand even if that's intentionally deceptive.
You moving goalposts for either company here.

Sony has marketed the Pro as a 4K machine to all but the most informed. That's a video on their official YouTube page titled "4K sizzle real" and I don't think there's one game in that video actually running at 4K:mjlol:


What Microsoft said is that they gave the X1X enough power to run games at 4K that would normally run at 900 or 1080p on X1.

They have done this with all their first party games, and with the 3rd party games/engines they've prototyped.

Beyond that, they can't dictate what devs do.

There's nothing misleading about saying "we gave the X1X enough power to play X1 games at 4K" cause that's what they actually did.

There's plenty misleading about running an add on your official page titled "4K gaming" and not including one game actually running at 4K :comeon:
 

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The fukk is a "dynamic 4k" anyway.:stopitslime:

That term in itself is misleading.

To a layman the term "dynamic" sounds like a positive.

In a way "dynamic 4K" sounds better than just "4K"

And the term doesn't even make logical sense. Dynamic means "constantly changing".

So "constantly changing 4K" isn't even what's happening.

The correct characterization should be "Dynamic resolution that might reach 4K"

But that doesn't sound too good on marketing materials huh @winb83? :mjpls:

In reality Microsoft wouldn't have to emphasize "true" 4K if Sony wasn't running with the misleading marketing of their own.
 

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The fukk is a "dynamic 4k" anyway.:stopitslime:

That term in itself is misleading.

To a layman the term "dynamic" sounds like a positive.

In a way "dynamic 4K" sounds better than just "4K"

And the term doesn't even make logical sense. Dynamic means "constantly changing".

So "constantly changing 4K" isn't even what's happening.

The correct characterization should be "Dynamic resolution that might reach 4K"

But that doesn't sound too good on marketing materials huh @winb83? :mjpls:

In reality Microsoft wouldn't have to emphasize "true" 4K if Sony wasn't running with the misleading marketing of their own.

Sony dynamic is 1800P upscaled to 34 36 what ever the 4k resolution is. What most fanboys are ignoriing is X can do 34x natively and checkboarding. Anthem was native 4k resolution with checkboarding to relieve the stress and dips.
 

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The fukk is a "dynamic 4k" anyway.:stopitslime:

That term in itself is misleading.

To a layman the term "dynamic" sounds like a positive.

In a way "dynamic 4K" sounds better than just "4K"

And the term doesn't even make logical sense. Dynamic means "constantly changing".

So "constantly changing 4K" isn't even what's happening.

The correct characterization should be "Dynamic resolution that might reach 4K"

But that doesn't sound too good on marketing materials huh @winb83? :mjpls:

In reality Microsoft wouldn't have to emphasize "true" 4K if Sony wasn't running with the misleading marketing of their own.
Dynamic 4K is like how Gears of War 4's MP will be according to the devs e.g. 4K dynamically for 60fps.
 

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The fukk is a "dynamic 4k" anyway.:stopitslime:

That term in itself is misleading.

To a layman the term "dynamic" sounds like a positive.

In a way "dynamic 4K" sounds better than just "4K"

And the term doesn't even make logical sense. Dynamic means "constantly changing".

So "constantly changing 4K" isn't even what's happening.

The correct characterization should be "Dynamic resolution that might reach 4K"

But that doesn't sound too good on marketing materials huh @winb83? :mjpls:

In reality Microsoft wouldn't have to emphasize "true" 4K if Sony wasn't running with the misleading marketing of their own.
Sony explained how their 4K was achieved. Mark Cerny explained it in great detail and all the gaming outlets covered it. Say what you will about them but that's one thing they never lied about.
 

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It was explained out in the open how what they're claiming to be 4K is achieved
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.engadget.com/amp/2016/10/20/ps4-pro-mark-cerny-interview-hardware/
They aren't misrepresenting that as a "true 4K console" when in reality the power to achieve 4K in graphically demanding AAA titles isn't really there.

Keep dodging the question:mjlol:

Microsoft clearly explained the capabilities of the X1X. And have delivered.

What's your thread about again?
 
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