Why Matt Ryan is the NFL's 2016 Most Valuable Player

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I don't think you know what MVP means. Take Ryan out of the team and how many wins do they get? Just like take Brees out of the Saints and they're lucky to go 2-14, therefore they are more valuable to the team than someone like Brady who went 3-1 without him; and would most likely get at least 11-12 wins without him anyway.

Don't quote me saying some dumb shyt like this. I know exactly what an MVP is. Going by your simpleton criteria...

how many wins the Raiders have without Carr?
how many wins the Seahawks have without Russ?
how many wins the Packers have without Rodgers?
how many wins the Steelers have without Ben?

All those guys just as valuable as Ryan going by your criteria and all have the same record if not better than Matty boy.
 

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Breh, b/c I can go on about hypotheticals to make Brady have 8 sb's. shyt, how old are you breh?

Old enough and watching NFL for many, many years to know that there's a reason why Brady will retire on 5-6 whereas Peyton barely got to 2, Rodgers will probably retire on 1, Brees on 1, Marino on 0 and other examples.

Brady isn't so far ahead of them to have many more rings, he's on par with most of them, if not slightly better or slightly worst.
 

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Old enough and watching NFL for many, many years to know that there's a reason why Brady will retire on 5-6 whereas Peyton barely got to 2, Rodgers will probably retire on 1, Brees on 1, Marino on 0 and other examples.

Brady isn't so far ahead of them to have many more rings, he's on par with most of them, if not slightly better or slightly worst.

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Old enough and watching NFL for many, many years to know that there's a reason why Brady will retire on 5-6 whereas Peyton barely got to 2, Rodgers will probably retire on 1, Brees on 1, Marino on 0 and other examples.

Brady isn't so far ahead of them to have many more rings, he's on par with most of them, if not slightly better or slightly worst.

Breh, Brady will most likely finish his career as the GOAT QB. Just accept it. Any excuse that you apply to Brady can be applied to any other QB that you consider "better" than Brady or GOAT.
 

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Rodgers has had a great season. Even when they went 4-6 he wasn't playing badly, just his defense was trash :yeshrug:
He has made best with what he's had. They'd be 1-14 right now at best without him. Same can be said about Ryan and our defense.
 

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Breh, Brady will most likely finish his career as the GOAT QB. Just accept it. Any excuse that you apply to Brady can be applied to any other QB that you consider "better" than Brady or GOAT.

Brees is the GOAT imo, but another story for another day. (put Brees in the Patriots team 15 years ago and he wins more rings than Brady)

I get it Brady is one of the best ever to pick up a ball, but rings don't mean shyt imo when talking about who is higher in an all time list. Eli Manning and Dan Marino? Bill Russell and Michael Jordan? etc etc :yeshrug:

I just hate it when people say "Brady is GOAT, he has 4 rings" :blessed: It pisses me off, if someone thinks Brady is GOAT no problem, but using rings as the reason is just stupid that's like saying Russell is basketball GOAT :mjlol:
 

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Brees is the GOAT imo, but another story for another day. (put Brees in the Patriots team 15 years ago and he wins more rings than Brady)

I get it Brady is one of the best ever to pick up a ball, but rings don't mean shyt imo when talking about who is higher in an all time list. Eli Manning and Dan Marino? Bill Russell and Michael Jordan? etc etc :yeshrug:

I just hate it when people say "Brady is GOAT, he has 4 rings" :blessed: It pisses me off, if someone thinks Brady is GOAT no problem, but using rings as the reason is just stupid that's like saying Russell is basketball GOAT :mjlol:

Yeah, I feel you about the rings argument but, rings aside, Brady has consistently done the most with the least in terms of receiving/running corps. Dude has also made the greatest transformation from game-manager to game-winner. And we all saw how Brady's numbers became even better once he got some real receivers and tight ends. He's the model of consistency and excellence at the QB position. And, at the end of the day, rings are a determining factor.

Brees is nice but you could argue that Brady on the Saints would've had more success than Brees is currently having.
 

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He's one of the best QB's in the league, the problem is he also plays on the best team who will win regardless of whether he plays or not (Pats actually have a higher regular season win % without him than with him); so he in no way deserves the MVP.

c/s i dont care type of stats be puts up he isnt as valuable to his team then other
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Brees is leading the league in TD's, Yards, 71% completion % and a passer rating of 103 (one of the highest). And is 7-9 on a team with no run game, virtually no weapons and one of the worst D's in the league.

Brees isn't top 5. He's top 3. And yeah I know I ride Brees dikk, but that's because no one else does and someone's gotta point out how good the guy is :troll:

c/s brees is so underrated its not even funny nad top 2 to me
 

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Who should win NFL awards for 2016? Here's a guide
Tom Brady, Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers could end up being the top MVP vote-getters. The order is the only question. ESPN Illustration
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    Bill BarnwellESPN Staff Writer

Offensive Player of the Year and Most Valuable Player
Top candidates: Tom Brady, QB, Patriots; Derek Carr, QB, Raiders; Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Cowboys; David Johnson, RB, Cardinals; Aaron Rodgers, QB, Packers; Matt Ryan, QB, Falcons

One of these six players will be my MVP, so the Offensive Player of the Year category here stands, as usual, as basically a runner-up trophy. (Cam Newton was a rare exception to this last year, and if the NFL's MVP award winner continues to win Offensive Player of the Year, I'll start changing the way I think about this award.) Let's start with this group of six and see who we end up with by process of elimination.

Let's start with the running backs. Bell misses out here because he was gone for three games and his numbers don't compare; he has arguably been better than Zeke or Johnson on a per-game basis, but this is about cumulative impact, and missing games counts against a player. He's 190 yards from scrimmage and nine touchdowns short of Johnson's numbers. Elliott sat out in Week 17, which would have made it harder to gauge him versus Johnson, but Johnson promptly suffered a knee injury in the first quarter of Arizona's season finale that thankfully does not appear to be as serious as it seemed at first glance.

I compared Elliott to Johnson in December, pointing out how Johnson's work as a receiver makes up the difference between the two as a runner. Here are the updated numbers comparing the two through the end of the regular season (and while Zeke sat out the final game, Johnson missed most of it, too):

Matthew Stafford in each category, and Stafford is not receiving much MVP support. (Not anymore, at least.) It's also tough to build the case around Carr coming up with big moments in the clutch when he had his worst game of the season against the Chiefs in that critical "Thursday Night Football" matchup in Week 14. Carr was also pressured on just 19 percent of his dropbacks, the second-lowest rate in football. He had an excellent season, but it's hard to really make a case that he's the best of these four quarterbacks.

The next person to remove from the list is tougher. Brady's candidacy is hardly anything surprising, but he has the most obvious flaw to overcome, having missed a full quarter of the season thanks to his suspension. As a result, he's way behind in terms of volume; Rodgers has thrown 178 more passes than Brady and produced 874 additional yards along with 12 more touchdowns. Brady is even further behind Ryan, who has 1,390 additional passing yards and 10 more touchdowns.

Instead, the argument for Brady has to revolve around the idea that he's been better on a snap-by-snap basis than the other quarterbacks. It's true that he has protected the football, throwing 28 touchdowns and just two picks, the best touchdown-interception ratio in league history, but that stat seems less impressive when you remember Brady is breaking a record held by Nick Foles. Brady's 0.5 percent interception rate is also great, but the difference between his interception total and that of Rodgers (seven) over a 610-pass season is four picks. Is that really enough to make up the gap between Brady and the, um, bunch?

toughest schedule of opposing defenses. Patriots fans may want to cling to the game-losing pick-two Ryan threw against the Chiefs, but there's more to quarterback play than avoiding interceptions. Brady has been brilliant, but Ryan has been more efficient, even while Julio Jones was on the sideline.

As for Rodgers, while there may be voters who see the future Hall of Famer putting the Packers on his back with his "run the table" comment and subsequent brilliant form, Ryan has been every bit as good over the same time frame. The Packers started their six-game winning streak that gave them the NFC North title in Week 12. Atlanta went 5-1 over that same stretch. Here's how Ryan and Rodgers performed over that span:

quietly have one of the best offenses in recent memory, including what is likely the best first-down offense in NFL history. Nobody in the league has been better at getting chunks of yardage than Ryan, who has enjoyed playing behind the only line in football to make all 80 starts uninterrupted this season. The voters may fall for two of the game's biggest icons, but the evidence -- all apologies to the Cowboys' offensive line -- suggests that Ryan is the clear choice for 2016 MVP. I'll throw Rodgers a trophy for his furious end to the campaign.


Offensive Player of the Year winner: Aaron Rodgers

Most Valuable Player winner: Matt Ryan


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Matt Ryan for MVP

The quarterback for the NFL's leading scoring offense finished the season first in yards per attempt and passer rating. He rates second in both passing yards and completion percentage and threw at least one touchdown in every game.

Why is he not the runaway favorite? As surmised by Football Outsiders' Scott Kacsmar, the 31-year-old is getting punished, because he's not a flashy star who has ever reached such lofty heights:

Let's be honest. The main argument working against Matt Ryan for MVP is that his name is Matt Ryan. He's not Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers, and his reputation in NFL circles, at best, has been "poor man's Peyton Manning." However, in his ninth season, Ryan is producing at a level just below what these other quarterbacks achieved at their peaks. That is lofty company to say the least, given the caliber of those MVP seasons.

As noted by NFL Stats before Week 17's game against the New Orleans Saints—after which his quarterback rating climbed to 117.2—those three iconic quarterbacks mentioned by Kacsmarare the only ones to earn an equal or higher single-season passer rating. They all took home MVP hardware after those campaigns:





Perhaps some onlookers dock him points for having Julio Jones at his disposal. Yet, Ryan didn't miss a beat in two games without his star wide receiver, during which he went 35-of-51 for 523 yards, five touchdowns and no interceptions.

His latest gem against the Saints (331 passing yards and four touchdowns) gave the 11-5 Falcons a first-round bye and the NFC's best point differential (plus-134). It also should have secured Ryan's MVP case. Everyone is making the MVP race harder than it needs to be.
 
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