Why LeBron James is the 2017 MVP no matter what
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He not going to win MVP because hes the best player in the world. Yep.
Every damn year he gonna keep averaging the same god damn stats of 25/8/7 or some shyt. We know it's gonna happen, so we sometimes overlook it since we know he always gonna be there.
He should be unofficial MVP every season just like how Gregg Popovich should be unoffcial COTY every season
Every damn year he gonna keep averaging the same god damn stats of 25/8/7 or some shyt. We know it's gonna happen, so we sometimes overlook it since we know he always gonna be there.
He should be unofficial MVP every season just like how Gregg Popovich should be unoffcial COTY every season
I AM WARHOL
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LeBron is literally playing in a situation 100% tailor made for his game. Thats a luxury no other superstar in the league benefits from
HandyWithTheSteel
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Rigby.
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He needs 2 to make up for the ones he hasn't gotten
At least should have 6 when he retires
If the spurs snatch the best record might have to go with kawhi,Harden getting his team to a 3 seed is impressive as well. Russ been taking a beating here and in the media but its still a historical feat. Of course the cavs been sucking without him. They all have a strong case. This is one of those years where you just clap for whoever the winner isI hate to see any of these guys torn down to build someone else up.
It's going to come down to seeding
IllmaticDelta
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When LeBron James takes a breather, Cavs continue to fall flat
When LeBron James takes a breather, Cavs continue to fall flat
AUBURN HILLS, Mich. -- The Cleveland Cavaliers have a LeBron James problem.
That is to say, James cannot play 48 minutes a game. And it seems to be, especially after seeing Thursday’s 106-101 loss to the Detroit Pistons, that Cleveland is hopeless and helpless whenever James does less and plays less.
If James could go full cyborg and never take a breather, the Cavs might be vying for the best record in the league, as Cleveland outscores its opponents by 7.1 points per game in the minutes James plays.
It’s just those pesky times he sits that the problem pops up.
It’s been well-documented how the Cavs are 0-5 on the season and 4-20 since 2014-15 in games when James sits out completely. That disparity was on full display Thursday as the Cavs outscored the Pistons by 18 points in the 39 minutes James was on the court and were outscored by 23 in the nine minutes James was on the sideline.
Sometimes the plus-minus stat for an individual game doesn’t tell you much; a player can be on the court tripping over his own sneakers while his four teammates get hot, and he’ll share the wealth when it comes to plus-minus.
LeBron James On/Off Court at DET
LeBron was off the court for only nine minutes in the Cavaliers' 106-101 loss to the Pistons on Thursday night, but King James' absence was crippling for Cleveland.
OnOff
Minutes399
Point Diff.+18-23
CLE FG%50.726.7
DET FG%40.370.0
Off. Eff.118.856.3
Def. Eff.99.3166.0
Net Eff.+19.5-109.7
James’ plus-18 against Detroit from his 29 points, 13 rebounds and 10 assists for his eighth triple-double of the season (a new season-high for him), while he threw down seven dunks (tying a career high as he rattled the rim the most times he has in a game in eight years) was completely representative of his impact on the night, however.
The Cavs built a 27-12 lead in the first quarter, then James was subbed out with 1:55 to go. By the start of the second quarter their cushion was down to seven. The Cavs held that seven-point lead heading into the fourth quarter after James played the entire third, but in the 3 ½ minutes he rested to start the fourth, the Pistons went on a 12-0 run to take back control of the game.
“Just got to trust the coaching staff, got to trust my teammates, that’s what I’ve always done my whole career,” James said when asked about his instinct to check back in when he sees leads disappear like that. “Some games there’s going to be games when I wish I was out there while a team was making a run like tonight. But it’s some games our team put together a run of our own and I’m sitting on the bench. I just trust my teammates that they’re going to make the right plays, and hopefully it comes out for the best for us.”
It’s nothing new. When Oscar Robertson was asked by ESPN to share his biggest observation after sitting next to the Cavs’ bench for a home game this season, he immediately pointed out how the team always fell flat on its face when James was on the bench.
That terrible start to the fourth occurred with Kyrie Irving running the show. There were challenges Irving had to deal with -- the lineup he shared the court with was made up of two new players (Derrick Williams and Deron Williams), one player back playing for the first time in nearly three months (J.R. Smith) and Tristan Thompson.
And it was outside of Irving’s normal routine of sitting to start the fourth quarter, but Cavs coach Tyronn Lue had to do that after playing James the entire third.
“Just got to be even more well-prepared for whatever T. Lue is throwing out there,” Irving said. “Being able to execute and being able to demand excellence from the guys I have on the floor. Just really playing with a great pace and defensively being solid. Tonight, I didn’t set the tone. That’s what happens.”
The loss shouldn’t be entirely on Irving. He scored 27 points to extend his streak to 13 games with 20 points or more -- the longest of his career. And while he was a minus-seven, Smith was a minus-28 in 19 minutes, and Thompson was a minus-22 in 26 minutes as the Pistons' Andre Drummond had 20 points and 16 rebounds to his four points and four boards. Not to mention that Kevin Love (knee) and Kyle Korver (foot) were out.
No, the loss was on all of the Cavs who have gotten so used to relying on James that they forget sometimes what it’s like to get it done on their own.
“We’ll get better,” James said. “We’ve got to be more detailed in what we need to do to execute the game plan offensively and defensively. If we do that for close to 48 minutes, then we’re going to give ourselves a chance to win.”
Or, you know, if James starts playing 48 minutes a game. That would probably work too.
When LeBron James takes a breather, Cavs continue to fall flat
IllmaticDelta
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I think it should be Young Sabo. Hell, AI got one, why not him too.
Shannon Sharpe is just playing a role because Skip is obviously @EducatedBrothaFromTheBank s role model when it comes to trolling LeBron with nonsensical arguments. Nick Wright is 100% genuine with his.
The wildest shyt is Curry went from unanimous MVP to the next season he's not even in anyone's top five. It won't happen but it would be completely reasonable if NOBODY had him on their ballet. And there was no injury for him to blame it on.
