"Why Kevin Durant is the Best Scorer Ever" -- By Any Means Basketball

[ISO]

If that's diversified I don't know what you'd call KD's game.

I left out his low and midpost "components" because they are embarrassing in comparison to every other player we've mentioned in this thread. Let's not go down that hole for LeBron's sake.

It's not embarrassing mans dismantled Toronto just last season with post fades even if its not up to par to some others its still a component of his scoring attack

And yes without doubt what you described is a diversified scoring attack

 

[MoneyTron]

It's not embarrassing mans dismantled Toronto just last season with post fades even if its not up to par to some others its still a component of his scoring attack

And yes without doubt what you described is a diversified scoring attack

If its not up to par, why mention it? Especially in context of comparison to other players that have elite low/midpost skillsets at their positions?

As for a diversified attack, I guess in comparison to Shaq or Hakeem. Sure, why not.

 

[big bun]

The whole problem is that claim still completely ignores bball IQ, mentality, and ability to respond to the demands of the moment. Sure, he can do everything....then why hasn't he?

Why is KD only 5-20 on playoff game-winners in his career, and an even uglier 1-9 in the final five seconds?

Why is it that until last year, KD had NEVER surpassed 41 points in a playoff game despite falling short every single year until he joined a 73-win team?

That's weird, right? You would think that since the Thunder were always losing in the end, that KD would have had some games where he threw them on his back and either carried them to victory or did everything possible trying. Like LeBron's 45 game against the Wizards, his 48 game against the Pistons, his 45 game against the Celtics, his 49 and 44 games against the Magic, his SECOND 45 game against the Celtics, his 49 game against the Nets, his 44 game against the Warriors, and that crazy 2018 sequence where he put up 42, 43, 44, 44, 45, 46, 46, and finally a 51 game all in a single playoff run, with at least 7 of those 8 games basically being must-win situations.

LeBron has maybe 20 classic high-scoring games that we all remember, spread out from his very first playoff series to his absolute most recent one (I didn't even count that 40-spot when they went down to the Pacers without Bosh, or the 37-point game 7 to win a ring against the Spurs, or the back-to-back 41-point games after going down 3-1 to the Warriors, or that 46-point effort against the Hawks since they were already up 2-0, or that 40-39-37 run in his first duel against D-Rose, or all those other 40-point games against the 2009 Magic and 2015 or 2017 Warriors).

Thunder Durant has none.

Now, Warriors Durant has a few big games, but he did it with the floor wide open next to two of the greatest shooters in history. Defenses are openly trying to stop Curry first and him second. And the game situations leave something to be desired. 43 against the Cavs when the Warriors were already up 2-0 and the Cavs had nearly thrown in the towel already. 45 and 50 against a way overmatched Clippers team after the Warriors had already pulled a 3-1 series lead. And 46 (on 14-31 shooting) in a loss to Houston after the Warriors were already up 2-0.....a Houston team that the Warriors ended up beating without KD on the court at all.

That's it. That's all of KD's 42+ games in his entire postseason history. 4 games with series leads against overmatched inferior teams, with Curry and Klay spreading the floor wide out.

Why is KD's scoring history so unimpressive?

I’m not reading all that shyt you wrote.

Real hoop fans know the truth.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

MJ,Melo,Kobe,KD,T-Mac greatest scorers ive ever seen

Good list.... let me add AI, Bernard King, Cap, Dream, Shaq, and my uncles say Elgin and Doc were cold as hell

 

[ISO]

If its not up to par, why mention it? Especially in context of comparison to other players that have elite low/midpost skillsets at their positions?

As for a diversified attack, I guess in comparison to Shaq or Hakeem. Sure, why not.

Because his post game is effective and relatively elite

And no his game is diverse as any foh

Its no point in having this convo if you're going to diminish effectiveness and results in favor of aesthetics

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Its no point in having this convo if you're going to diminish effectiveness and results in favor of aesthetics

Real shyt... just because someone’s game is prettier doesn’t necessarily make them a better scorer

 

[Yayo Toure]

LeBron has averaged 30 in the playoffs 6 times compared to twice for KD, but somehow iys not close?

Anti-Bron's can't even try to be logical...

East vs West. The level of competition KD faced in the playoffs has been way higher.

 

[MoneyTron]

Because his post game is effective and relatively elite

And no his game is diverse as any foh

Its no point in having this convo if you're going to diminish effectiveness and results in favor of aesthetics

I'm not diminishing anything. We're talking about GOAT scorers so who in this group, who is he relatively elite in comparison to? This isn't about being elite in comparison to Jared Dudley breh.

And if you as think, as a scorer, that he's as diverse as MJ, KD, or Kobe, we're watching two different LeBrons.

 

[murksiderock]

Why is KD's scoring history so unimpressive?

We know the answer is because skills dont always translate to results, and Kevin Durant is as much an example of this as anybody....

The way these guys are talking KD should have twice as many scoring titles, his career scoring average should be 32+, and he should have an encyclopedia worth of 40 and 50 point playoff games...

There's nothing impressive about those teams.

• He went up against a washed up Pistons with no Ben Wallace or Larry Brown (the equivalent of GS without Draymond + Kerr). He was getting to the rim with ease because he faced no rim protection

Your entire post can be dismantled but I'll just start and end with the fact that, that Pistons team was NOT washed. They still went to another ECF the year after LeBron torched them, that team was borderline great and a mini-dynasty and the only reason they dont get their due is because they only went to two Finals...

If anyone else was dropping 25 straight on any other team in a conference final it would be lauded as GOAT-worthy, particularly if the opponent was an annual conference finalist that were proven winners...

I see nobody mentioning Shaq. The king of bully ball put points in the basket but no one calling him a GOAT type scorer. Might be more than just the numbers hmm?

Your posts are getting progressively worse. This is a false equivalency and you know it, but it's been clear for a few pages that you are pandering to a certain segment...

I can't lie tho, that LeGBT and Bronsexual shyt is funny asf

That shyt is funny and br having me dying, my girl be like why you laughing and when I tell her she be tripped out...

LMAO

Bron hits a wide open 3 against a 35-win playoff bound East team and its for days.

Bron has never played a 35-win team in the playoffs...again, you're pandering for comedic effect and you're failing badly...

 

[Professor Emeritus]

But he is tho . Last shot to win the game you giving it to bron?

LeBron is 10-27 on game-winning/game-tying shots in the last 24 seconds of postseason games.
Kobe is 7-28
KD is 5-20


Think that's cherry-picking? How about last 10 seconds?
LeBron is 9-22
Kobe is 4-18
KD is 2-13


Oh, god, that's even worse for them. Maybe last 5 seconds will be better?
LeBron is 7-17
Kobe is 3-14
KD is 1-9


Okay, maybe buzzer-beaters?
LeBron is 5-9
Kobe is 0-1
KD has never shot a buzzer-beater in the playoffs

Hmmm....

I mean, you can go ahead and give it to Kobe or KD, they have the ideal skill set to make game-winners, but what have they actually shown on the court?

Waiting on a rebuttal to this :mjsherlock:

It ain't coming breh, they don't want to touch that one with a ten foot pole.

LeBron has almost twice as many playoff buzzer-beaters as anyone else in NBA history and they wanna say last shot to win the game you don't give it to him.

 

[Sex Luthor]

It ain't coming breh, they don't want to touch that one with a ten foot pole.

LeBron has almost twice as many playoff buzzer-beaters as anyone else in NBA history and they wanna say last shot to win the game you don't give it to him.

Kevin Durant played his first few years with Russ and we all know he's taking that shyt. Then he played with probably the 2 best shooters in the history of the league and dray who refused to pass it to anybody that one game. Plus most of the games with GS were blow outs. He didn't have to take those shots. Lebron had to.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Kevin Durant played his first few years with Russ and we all know he's taking that shyt. Then he played with probably the 2 best shooters in the history of the league and dray who refused to pass it to anybody that one game. Plus most of the games with GS were blow outs. He didn't have to take those shots. Lebron had to.

So you're saying that LeBron "had" to take the shots so the entire pressure of the opposing defense was on him, while KD always had Russ and Harden and Steph and Klay to draw defenders' attention.

Yet LeBron is 10-27 in those situations while KD is 5-20.

Yet LeBron is 7-17 on game-winners in the last five seconds while KD is 1-9.

You just owned yourself.

 

[Propaganda]

Yeah it's about stats AND aesthetics.... That's literally how it's always been

Are y'all even being serious

are you even serious? we're talking about scoring here, putting the ball in the hole. this is basketball, not figure skating.

i'll never understand you dudes who put so much stock into what you think looks better. you don't get extra points for "aesthetics".

anyways, back to the thread -

i'd say kd is right up near the top of the list for sure. dude is basically a 7 foot guard who can score from anywhere on the court and from any situation. he's a physical freak who can do it all scoring-wise. i mean, he's skilled as hell, for anyone, let alone for someone his size, then you throw in how quick and agile and coordinated he is for how big he is...then to top it all off, kd has the tangibles - the volume is there, the efficiency is there, the scoring titles are there...the whole story checks out.

 

[Sex Luthor]

So you're saying that LeBron "had" to take the shots so the entire pressure of the opposing defense was on him, while KD always had Russ and Harden and Steph and Klay to draw defenders' attention.

Yet LeBron is 10-27 in those situations while KD is 5-20.

Yet LeBron is 7-17 on game-winners in the last five seconds while KD is 1-9.

You just owned yourself.

Still don't change anything for me. Lebron is getting into his decline. Kd is that guy right now. I always put bron ahead of kd as best in the league until these last 2 years. Play making and rebounding I give to bron but scoring I'll take kd over anybody playing right now. I think kd is a more fluid scorer at any point of the game. From 3 point range he's a better shooter. Mid range he's a better shooter. Free throw he's a better shooter. Only makes sense to me to give the ball to the best shooter if I need a shot.

 

[Sex Luthor]

are you even serious? we're talking about scoring here, putting the ball in the hole. this is basketball, not figure skating.

i'll never understand you dudes who put so much stock into what you think looks better. you don't get extra points for "aesthetics".

anyways, back to the thread -

i'd say kd is right up near the top of the list for sure. dude is basically 7 foot guard who can basically score from anywhere on the court and from any situation. he's a physical freak who can do it all scoring-wise. i mean, he's skilled as hell, for anyone, let alone for someone his size, then you throw in how quick and agile and coordinated he is for how big he is...then to top it all off, kd has the tangibles - the volume is there, the efficiency is there, the scoring titles are there...the whole story checks out.

Most people his height can't run like he can. Not too many people are gonna be able to block his shot. His shooting efficiency from any spot on the floor is crazy. Bron is sus sometimes from mid range and free throws.