"excuse"? what if it's true?
whether or not self-deception is virtuous, doesn't mean it's not reality
Why jason collins doesnt impress me
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"excuse"? what if it's true?
whether or not self-deception is virtuous, doesn't mean it's not reality
Doesn't matter if its true, you're still held accountable. You can't tell the judge "I didn't know"
The question is was this dude "brave" or a "hero"
You can't be a "brave hero" while lying to the world and yourself. Coming clean from that lie when it's personaly beneficial AFTER hurting others and becoming successful doesn't make you a "brave hero" either.
If a straight man strung along a woman for eight years for ANY reason whether he didn't know he was or not. He would not get a pass for it and damn sure wouldn't be called a hero for finally telling the truth.
what if that's the truth though?
You still go to jail.
for not knowing you were gay? how does the judge prove that?
Stop being dense. Being gay wouldn't be the crime. Taking advantage of another human beings life would be the crime. And saying "I didn't know" wouldn't get you off the hook.
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Word? Try to make the best of it?????...that kind of pragmatism is unwise...this situation would be the equivalent of a guy like bernie madoff fleeing to Rio de janeiro and then confessing that there he stole peoples pensions and apologising knowing damn well he wont be extradited...
would you call that courage???
why does anyone feel the need to be "impressed" or "give him props"?
if you don't want to get caught up in it, then don't
We all got caught up in it..its being pushed on all the news networks,he has the SI cover and the article i posted..why does he get an SI cover anyway? his stats are terrible
and he obviously "came clean" at the most convenient point of his career and if you read the whole article i posted with a discerning mind you would see that theres nothing courageous or praiseworthy here.
we're talking about complex psychological issues here, not ignorance of the law. you were the one that wanted to introduce a judge and jail into the conversation
huh? it's more about how I expect the media to handle a story like this. I don't expect them to demonize the first openly gay NBA player. in fact, given our modern knee-jerk gotcha society, it's the kind of thing where saying the wrong thing could be the end of your career
I don't really watch TV or read SI. although I saw something about all this on TV the other night at the bar
One more time "complex physiological issues" are never a passable excuse for poor behavior. They could be true and really have an impact, but at the end of the day each individual is responsible for his own actions. I bring up the judge because its an example. People are not excused for their actions due to societal pressures, no matter how "complex"
Gay people are human, they make mistakes like the rest of us. They shouldn't be applauded or called hero's for actions that the rest of us would be frowned upon for.
Take of your
and see it for what it is. This dude is no hero.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...ins-twin-brother-gay_n_3196697.html?ir=Sports
anecdotal: but I used run into this cat the barber shop all time, until he got traded to the trailblazers...
anecdotal: but I used run into this cat the barber shop all time, until he got traded to the trailblazers...
they're not? I'll just go full-retard and ask if "complex physiological issues" are ever a passable excuse for a retard's poor behavior?
Take of your
I didn't say he was a "hero". in fact I said:
why does anyone feel the need to be "impressed" or "give him props"?
if you don't want to get caught up in it, then don't
