Why is religion and the bible always holding our society back?

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Why do people always blame the bible for their problems?

They aren't my problems. People are using the bible to deny marriage rights to gays.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

What criteria are you using to define the greatest minds of all times....From that it looks like to me that you believe that greatest minds = followers of science and that just reeks of bias, so I can't take that list seriously...

Obviously I listed the non religious folks. . Who else are you specifically referring to? Definitely, MLK Jr. Is on the greatest minds list.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Obviously I listed the non religious folks. . Who else are you specifically referring to? Definitely, MLK Jr. Is on the greatest minds list.

Ok. If there were great minds who believed in a higher power, what was your initial point...Maybe I'm not following you

 

[spoiled]

In 98% of the world gay marriage doesn't exist you dumb fakkit. It has nothing to do with Bible, for most people homosexuality is disgusting. Only retarded hippies in some western countries cry about gay marriage

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Ok. If there were great minds who believed in a higher power, what was your initial point...Maybe I'm not following you

More specifically our greatest scientific minds. . But I didn't really want the thread to be about that. I just think it's sad that an old book is still holding back social progression that should be a no brainer. Then we could move onto more important issues. The only folks I see opposing gay rights are religious people. There is a correlation.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Welcome to my ignore list slang(errrr... spoiled)

 

[Sunalmighty]

They aren't my problems. People are using the bible to deny marriage rights to gays.

faq or not, God is going to judge everybody. Everybody got something they have done in life where they have earned a place in hell. I don't support same sex marriage, that's between them and The Lord. It is unnatural, period. Lol, if we had a holocaust and all was left was an island of fags, I guess we are screwed

 

[NoMayo15]

faq or not, God is going to judge everybody. Everybody got something they have done in life where they have earned a place in hell. I don't support same sex marriage, that's between them and The Lord. It is unnatural, period. Lol, if we had a holocaust and all was left was an island of fags, I guess we are screwed

But you do realize we don't base US laws on what it says in the Bible, right?

And what do you mean by 'unnatural'?

 

[Sunalmighty]

But you do realize we don't base US laws on what it says in the Bible, right?

And what do you mean by 'unnatural'?

Of course we don't, it's a separation between church and state, but people still have their beliefs, and are entitled to them. God dont care WHAT the laws of the land are, eternal judgement belongs to him, period, and he is going to judge YOU too. He just tells us to obey the laws of the land..GOOGLE unnatural and tell me what it says. Not trying to convert anyone, just off of what scripture says.

 

[NoMayo15]

Of course we don't, it's a separation between church and state, but people still have their beliefs, and are entitled to them. God dont care WHAT the laws of the land are, eternal judgement belongs to him, period, and he is going to judge YOU too. He just tells us to obey the laws of the land..GOOGLE unnatural and tell me what it says. Not trying to convert anyone, just off of what scripture says.

un·nat·u·ral
/ˌənˈnaCH(ə)rəl/
Adjective
Contrary to the ordinary course of nature; abnormal.
Not existing in nature; artificial.

Contrary to the ordinary course of nature ... not existing in nature. Okay then, first of all, aren't human beings a part of nature? Therefore, aren't any acts performed by humans natural in that sense? Don't other organisms engage in same-sex relationships, or perform same-sex sexual acts on each other? Second, if you reject that notion, then where exactly do you draw a line between things that are natural and things that we ought not do? For example, is it natural in a hunter/gather sense to put on helmets and pads, and collide into each other and cause bodily harm to one another to obtain a ball made of leather? Is it natural to build vehicles that float magically in mid-air and jump out of them at 30,000 ft? I mean, just because some action is not ordinary or typical of human behavior, does that mean it should necessarily be outlawed in this country? Who's to say that something unnatural you do shouldn't also be made illegal? Why limit the freedoms of people when their "unnatural" actions do practically no harm to themselves or others?

Sure, people can have their beliefs, but I'm of the opinion that ones religious beliefs should remain PERSONAL and one shouldn't impose their beliefs on anyone else. If you think a person is going to go to hell for living in sin and not repenting, then fine, you can think that. If you want to avoid punishment from your god for that particular sin, then YOU personally shouldn't get married to a member of the same gender. Who the hell are you to tell someone else what they can and cannot do? Not everyone believes what you believe is true ... which is why we shouldn't legislate on biblical beliefs.

 

[spoiled]

Contrary to the ordinary course of nature ... not existing in nature. Okay then, first of all, aren't human beings a part of nature? Therefore, aren't any acts performed by humans natural in that sense? Don't other organisms engage in same-sex relationships, or perform same-sex sexual acts on each other? Second, if you reject that notion, then where exactly do you draw a line between things that are natural and things that we ought not do? For example, is it natural in a hunter/gather sense to put on helmets and pads, and collide into each other and cause bodily harm to one another to obtain a ball made of leather? Is it natural to build vehicles that float magically in mid-air and jump out of them at 30,000 ft? I mean, just because some action is not ordinary or typical of human behavior, does that mean it should necessarily be outlawed in this country? Who are you to say that something "unnatural" that you do shouldn't be made illegal as well? Why limit the freedoms of people when their "unnatural" actions do practically no harm to themselves or others.

Sure, people can have their beliefs, but I'm of the opinion that ones religious beliefs should remain PERSONAL and one shouldn't impose their beliefs on anyone else. If you think a person is going to go to hell for living in sin and not repenting, then fine, you can think that. If you want to avoid punishment from your god for that particular sin, then you personally shouldn't get married to a gay person. Who the hell are you to tell someone else what they can and cannot do?

hey retard nobody is stopping fags from living together and fukking eachother. but marriage as an institution was established so couples could start a family and raise children to further our society, which in principle gays cannot.

 

[Sunalmighty]

Contrary to the ordinary course of nature ... not existing in nature. Okay then, first of all, aren't human beings a part of nature? Therefore, aren't any acts performed by humans natural in that sense? Don't other organisms engage in same-sex relationships, or perform same-sex sexual acts on each other? Second, if you reject that notion, then where exactly do you draw a line between things that are natural and things that we ought not do? For example, is it natural in a hunter/gather sense to put on helmets and pads, and collide into each other and cause bodily harm to one another to obtain a ball made of leather? Is it natural to build vehicles that float magically in mid-air and jump out of them at 30,000 ft? I mean, just because some action is not ordinary or typical of human behavior, does that mean it should necessarily be outlawed in this country? Who are you to say that something "unnatural" that you do shouldn't be made illegal as well? Why limit the freedoms of people when their "unnatural" actions do practically no harm to themselves or others.

Sure, people can have their beliefs, but I'm of the opinion that ones religious beliefs should remain PERSONAL and one shouldn't impose their beliefs on anyone else. If you think a person is going to go to hell for living in sin and not repenting, then fine, you can think that. If you want to avoid punishment from your god for that particular sin, then you personally shouldn't get married to a gay person. Who the hell are you to tell someone else what they can and cannot do?

You just used some scientific, sky diving shyt to illustrate your point. It's a point I will never argue fam, it's a bottomless pit. I cool on the homo thing, I love people and there is nothing I wouldn't do to help anyone, but, that doesn't mean I have to accept it.

 

[Sunalmighty]

hey retard nobody is stopping fags from living together and fukking eachother. but marriage as an instuation was established so couples coud start a family and raise children to further our society, which in principle gays cannot.

Procreation isn't an option with that lifestyle. Population would die off. Man and woman is the ONLY way to continue life

 

[NoMayo15]

hey retard nobody is stopping fags from living together and fukking eachother. but marriage as an institution was established so couples could start a family and raise children to further our society, which in principle gays cannot.

Why can't gays start a family and raise children? What principle is that?

 

[spoiled]

Why can't gays start a family and raise children? What principle is that?

wtf? procreation isnt possible with homosex