No it is not clear that religion inherently leads to bigotry. You're making so sophomoric of an argument I debated not even responding to you. You just used fukking Mowgli as an example. Why not use me as the example
...doesn't help your argument I guess. Furthermore, you're using evangelicals as a proxy for all religious people when A) Christianity isn't the only religion and B) evangelicals are only influential in a certain part of the country. It allows you to conveniently ignore the religious practices of ancient peoples and of modern philosophers and scientists that brought up much of how we think today. It's weak. Second, you're so mad (and it shows through your keyboard) that you're not reading straight. I never said that laws were enacted in China in 1997. I said they weren't repealed until somewhere between 1997 and 2001. Third, the majority of the EU is religious by about a 51% to 49% margin. Countries like France, who do not have same-sex marriage laws are not even close to the majority of the population being religious. People still adhere to some customs and celebrations, but do not consistently partake in any religious services. You're just flat out wrong. And regardless, if they are highly religious like you said, that undermines your argument that religion makes people anti-science because those countries were much more open to stem cell research than we were. :thiswork:
Fourth, you just used your fukkin Facebook Newsfeed as a proxy for what religion does to people. I repeat, you keep mentioning your fukking Facebook newsfeed no matter how many times I get at that horrible logic. That is the most unscientific barometer I've ever heard of. So should I then use my facebook newsfeed, and my thousands of friends on there to say that you are wrong....
You live in Kentucky, think about what most of Kentucky is culturally and then tell me if you think that is a fair representation of religion everywhere in America. This is nothing more than your superiority complex at work and is based on nothing more that a gut feeling. You can argue whatever you want, you've got little in the way to support it as evidenced by the fact that you're not supporting it now. EVEN worse, you said me giving examples of intelligent people who are religious is bad, and then proceed to argue by giving me examples of intelligent people who are hindered by religion
A term does not need to exist for anti-homosexual attitudes to exist. Homophobia has existed in places like China for the past two-thousand years or so. You're latching onto the terminology where it is a meaningless distinction if the behavior and reactions are the same. China used to have paintings of homosexuality and stopped that shyt around the 1700 to 1800s.
This is nothing but the ramblings of an angry atheist. I said that the pursuit of, and appeasement of God had led to the scientific and mathematic advancements of society. To deny that is to deny that role religion played in the lives of Sumerians, Egyptians, Romans, Greeks. Do not mistake my argument as saying that religion is required to propel innovation or that it does or should today. Rather, I am providing historical examples to dispel the notion that it is inherently counter-progressive. As a believer, I am no fan of organized religion at all. I consider the church I grew up in to the be exception, rather than the rule. The tendency for religion to be used for negative forces is unquestionable. But to say that it is necessarily so requires one to ignore a significant amount of literature.
And this is why someone like you should not be attempting to lecture anyone on religion or agnosticism or atheism or anything of that sort. Your experiences and views have a tendency to alienate those who would otherwise be natural allies on most causes. 99% of my friends are progressive, I'd say 50-50 as far as being religious to any degree, someone like you would just hamper the ability of any causes you support to actually come to fruition by drawing meaningless distinctions. Outside of your world, the majority of people who affiliate themselves with a religion in our generation hate the religious right. Even young Evangelicals are differing greatly from their parents. But call all those people fukktards because they don't see the world ENTIRELY the way you do even do they see most of it that way. Are you boys Kendrick and Nas fukktards too. I guess my Presbyterian, straight, PhD track friends who volunteered at same gay rights events are fukktards too.
I said it before and I'll say it again, I genuinely pity you, this shyt obviously has affected you greatly.
