Why is R&B dead in 2014?

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Rnb is about love. This generation is about poppin pill getting drunk and fukking.

Imagine what would happen to gospel music if everybody went athiest

Damn shame how society became more primitive and selfish as fukk.
 

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RnB was kept alive by musicians from black churches who made a transition...now most of the new guys can't even play any instrument or ever had any experience singing in-front of a congregation. So of course it will be trash

You mean most 90s babies that grew up and created music in front of a computer?
 

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when did Trey turn Pop?

These are his last 2 singles






You know how the coli goes. It more comfortable to complain about shyt.



He turned pop when Justin Timberlakes current album has more of a soul/ True R&B sound in it than anything Trey had put out in the last 5 years.
The Songs you post are barley R&B. Black dude singing does not = R&B
 
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He turned pop when Justin Timberlake current album has more of a soul/ True R&B sound in it than anything Trey had put out in the last 5 years.
The Songs you post are barley R&B. Black dude singing does not = R&B
Whats "un r&b" about those songs?

R&B has changed just like rap has changed.

I don't get why R&B artist have to make the music you like.

There aren't Trey Songz fans that are disappointed with his music

Edit: Trey has never made soulful music. That is not his lane
 

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If were talking about why R&B isn't mainstream anymore, than were having a different conversation. But it seems as though people seem hurt that the mainstream (aka white America) isn't co-signing black music. But let's not fool ourselves into thinking that the musicianship and artistry isn't lacking in mainstream R&B. Not to mention those were some of the very elements that made the genre so popular worldwide. Artists like Keith Sweat, En Vogue etc were largely supported by the black community. Keith Sweat and En Vogue have a major following here and overseas. Support from the Black community is why Keith Sweat is still able to do shows here in the states.

But if we were to go back in time and transport Teddy Pendegrass, Bobby Womack, Marvin Gaye, Luther Vandross,Stevie Wonder, Hi-five, Babyface etc into 2014's music climate, they wouldn't sell in the mainstream and possibly in today's black community as well. The quality decline in music overall has been felt across the board.

Nah, any talented black artist that sings about love and positivity isn't getting promoted.
 

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Whats "un r&b" about those songs?

R&B has changed just like rap has changed.

I don't get why R&B artist have to make the music you like.

There aren't Trey Songz fans that are disappointed with his music

Edit: Trey has never made soulful music. That is not his lane


I don't dislike Trey and I"m not saying he should not get radio play. I'm talking about artist that deserve radio spins just because they are not on Hip Hop/Pop/EDM trends. There should be diversity on the radio.

Your right he has never been a soul artist but he was more of a Pop R&B artist back then.

Not full on Soul per say but a very true R&B influence sound.
He is Hip-Hop/Pop vocalist now.
 
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I'm not hurt white people aren't cosigning black music. I'm hurt black people aren't cosigning black music. We turned our back on jazz and blues and now r&b. shyt is sad, especially since r&b is my favorite genre. I have to listen to underground r&b that no one black I know listens to. My name is from Janelle Monae, so you can tell I'm a big fan. My girlfriend was looking on my iPod once a few years back and she was like,"girl, you like Janelle monae?! She's so weiiird" and then preceded to bump some ratchet shyt.

Black people are the ones that killed our music. Not white folks.

This is hurtful because music is a part of our black American experience. When we were slaves, music and dance were some of the main things keeping up going. Now we've turned our back on one of the few things we could take pride in that the white man could never take away from us.

At least you see the truth. Black folk were responsible for the decline of talented black artists in R&B and ate up ratchet southern c00n shyt like its candy. Now look at us in 2014 with quality music missing on the radio? Even worse, if you found something of quality in the underground, you can't even share that experience with another irl person that you associate everyday.
 

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He turned pop when Justin Timberlakes current album has more of a soul/ True R&B sound in it than anything Trey had put out in the last 5 years.
The Songs you post are barley R&B. Black dude singing does not = R&B


historically thats what r&b is
 

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I don't like dislike Trey and I"m not saying he should not get radio play. I'm talking about artist that deserve radio spins just because they are not on Hip Hop/Pop/EDM trends. There should be diversity on the radio.

Your right he has never been a soul artist but he was more of a Pop R&B artist back then.

Not full on Soul per say but a very true R&B influence sound.
He is Hip-Hop/Pop vocalist now.

This was also his least selling album and the 1 album where he had no creative control.

Why should he make songs like that. When thats not the music he wants to make and its not successful?
 

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This was also his least selling album and the 1 album where he had no creative control.

Why should he make songs like that. When thats not the music he wants to make and its not successful?

That's not my point. Trey Songz can do what ever he wants musically. I'm saying that artist with heavy R&B/Soul sounds should be on (urban) radio as well and more new school artist should be given a chance.
 

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That's not my point. Trey Songz can do what ever he wants musically. I'm saying that artist with heavy R&B/Soul sounds should be on (urban) radio as well and more new school artist should be given a chance.
Given a chance? People should support that music so the lanes can push it.

The labels only care about the bottom line. Not which music is getting more play than others
 

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Given a chance? People should support that music so the lanes can push it.

The labels only care about the bottom line. Not which music is getting more play than others

People do support that music though and Yes, given a chance it's not like these artist don't have a decent Independent following to get played.
Labels don't know what's "Hot" They have to wait for something or someone blow up from the underground before they jump on.
 
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Damn shame how society became more primitive and selfish as fukk.
People just stopped giving a fukk about the front. I don't think society changed that much.

Our parents was being promiscuous, getting high, they just wasn't incorporating it into the music. The music now is a representation of reality
 

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I also think one of the reasons R&B is dead in 2014, because most people aren't in love. They are overcome with lust. They can't communicate effectively the notion of love. Therefore it's a lost cause.
 
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