Why is Kanye failing with fashion?

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3 reasons why Kanye is failing.

1. He didn't play to his strengths. He's a hip hop artist and that's where his base support comes from. That's like Usain Bolt selling golf shoes. He designs clothes that look like you borrowed them because you lost all yours in a fire or something and then overpriced them. His clothes don't look fresh so he has no core/startup fan base outside of the hypebeast.

2. He thinks he's bigger than he really is. He thought he could come out the gate and compete with fashion houses that have been around for decades with sweaters with holes in them. He tried to fast track and buy his way into the winners circle. He could've started small and built his brand up but his ego wouldn't let him.

3. He doesn't really have any product. That's why all of the push backs. He's doing the fashion shows to try and get someone to invest in him so he can start mass production. Which ties back into #2

To add on, ain't been a real nikka on his team since Roc-A-Fella split. So nobody is in his ear telling him the real shyt. I think he outsourced all the real cats from his click and got moist yes men and Kardashians who would exploit him for their profit.

Plus I've heard cats mention he has no formal training in this shyt either.

Fashion to Kanye is like Basketball to me. Love it to death, passionate as fukk about it. Will spend money supporting it, watching, video games etc. But will I start seriously training to join the NBA or another league professional league, HELL NO I am nowhere near that level to compete and neither is YE
 

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His "designs" are terrible. Nothing new or groundbreaking. Just already established pieces that are successful but upmarked 200%

I can name 10 designers who had showings this year who made better stuff.

Even his own protege Virgil with Off white is making more groundbreaking stuff and has surpassed where Kanye realistically wants to be.

And tbh, his women's line is insulting.

This.
 

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Kanye is the male version of Beyonce.

Peopel want to be like him, but can't.
People want to be associated with him
People want his co-sign
People want to soak up his greatness.

He combines the egotical pompousness of Michael Jordan with the star power of Michael Jackson.

On the contrary, I think he's one of the best dressers out there period.

There are sometimes I see pictures of him in concert and the man doesn't even seem like a man to me...but a god. Or the closest thing to a god there is.

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This is not a man, this is a god!

I remember when Yeezus came out and straight up I would be having conversations with randoms over cigarettes with my freinds and this gay white dude joined in and said "Kanye is transcending the lines between everything and anything possible"

Like that picture is brilliance right there.

The Yeezus tour was beyond a tour, it was like theatre.

Kanye West reminds me of Phillip Seymour Hoffman's character is Synedoche, New York....pulling us along for something but has us waiting for eons.

Say what you want about him but Kanye west to me represents the black man, the black struggle, black excellence, and why society is drawn to us.

you have a right to your opinions
ye does put on a ill stage show but artist outside of hiphop/rap have been killing as far as set design and costumes etc.

salute him for his aspirations and doing what he feels even when i don't rock with it

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Man .Its so easy to manipulate dumb people. He really got nikkas on here calling him a god :mjlol:

Whack clothes
Whack music
Whack personality

Yet, y'all still ride for this clown.

His shyt is weak, it's a status symbol for uppity wannabes.You should see the kids that stand in line for that garbage...the same Lil cacs that call you ****** on XBL.
 

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I think him going retail might be the problem. He should be trying to pioneer a straight online strategy. Retailers are shutting doors down left and right (Sports Authority just went bank, Macys is closing down 100 stores). I'm sure the Barneys, Saks, and Niemans are doing ok but why not cut out the middle man when online makes it possible? Between him and the Kardashians they have access to 100s of millions of people online through their social media channels as well as the channels of their celeb friends. They should be using that to run preorders or be on some tee spring shyt where they'll produce if x amount of sales goals are met. This literally cuts out the amount of "waste" by so much and since their the producer and retailer, their margins would be through the roof.
I understand they want to be "high fashion" and this isn't necessarily that but they could start something new.
 

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1. The clothing ain't good
2. It's overpriced on top of not good
3. He skipped the apprenticeship portion

if he were ever able to figure it out and get price points on yeezy's, to make them expensive, but cheap enough for everyone to get, literally everyone would have it, like the iPhone.
Aren't Yeezys $250? That wouldn't meet that expensive but reachable price?
 

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nikkas rocked Truckfit for a minute:yeshrug:
Trukfit is so corny.

The best and my favorite rapper line will always be BBC/Ice Cream

Besides the fact Pharell had a skate team, Sk8thing of Bathing Ape/C.E. fame used to handle the designs.

Pharrell knew the importance of the japanese market and that's why he's been so successful.

Him and the Neptunes IMO brought Bape to American audiences and quite well.

BBC is a hip-hop brand, but I see the people who wear it and it's not just black people, but white, asian, hispanic, indian, etc...

Pharrell was really integral in brining alot of Japanese fashion to the eyes of American hip-hop audiences.
 

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Because he's an elite musician he thinks he can seamlessly transition into being an elite fashion designer. Mad arrogant if you think about it.

Ppl pay their dues and put in mad years in fashion just like he did in music.

Imagine Elon Musk decides he want to drop RnB albums and starts throwing tantrums because no one takes his music seriously.
Or Joaquin Phoenix deciding to become a rapper right out of nowhere...
:mjlol:
 

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The worst part of his"failure" is they can succeed easily. Hire a million dollar team of ecommerce consultants (fb marketing, ad words, tee spring, Instagram, YouTube....trust me there's ppl making millions on each of these channels alone). They'd be doing $100 million + in sales by year one. As popular as they are, they should have databases of their customers online profiles with what they bought, how much they spent, address, credit card. And if the clothes shyt failed that data alone could be worth another $100 million.
 

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His APC collab sold out within a few days, his shoes sold out within a few days, his pop-up shops are about to sell out, his clothing line sold pretty well, he just hasn't given himself a niche or been able to move past the hype-based popularity.
Rich white kids love his shyt, if he pushed that DW women's wear line into a luxury evening wear line, and actually sold luxury clothing and accessories, he could slowly gain the recognition of an established fashion house.
shyt, it took Thom Browne like 5 years just to get recognised and he hasn't even reached his peak yet. Most major fashion guys cut their teeth on established lines.
 
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