Why is Kanye failing with fashion?

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This old white man came into my job when those shoes were released. He was like do you like my shoes? :gladbron:

I said, what are they :ld:

:ooh: You don't know?! They're yeezy's!

:huhldup: Oh cool. Go on and have a seat.

The shoes were ugly and I think all of his clothes are trash (literal rags). It's easy to sell out of something when you don't have a lot of inventory simply off of the fact that you are Kanye West. If had more merchandise, I don't think he would be selling out as fast because his clothes don't appeal to the average consumer. :yeshrug:
 

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Odd Future sell more clothes than Kanye....:mjcry:

There's levels to the fashion industry. He should have partnered with established brand that specializes in high fashion and then branch off when he learned the game and has more name recognition.
He should also make clothes people want to wear and stop making those matrix Zion city fruity Comic-Con clothes.:dame:

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Cause he a fukking rapper:manny:
Rappers have had successul clothing lines, that's not an excuse.

Ye, Pharrell, and Tyler The Creator are arguably the only rappers that can get clothes to sell...everyone else? Not as much.
 

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Hold on I' confused. So is his stuff not selling well or is it impossible to find? or both :huhldup:
Honestly I never actually seen any of his stuff in any stores (or anybody wearing it) but I just assumed it's cause I don't bother going in stores that expensive. I been in Bloomingdales and neiman Marcus recently and didn't see it. What store is above that? Like what stores sells Hermes and all them type $3000 Versace shirts
It's both.

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Let me shed some light on this situation.

First season everybody bought it up, but it didn't sell well in retail stores at all, despite what everybody thinks. Check the actual retail store numbers, it sold like shyt, and and all the listed retailers bought the absolute bare minimum to be listed as a stockist to ride the Yeezy credibility wave. I'm talking 1-3 of each piece in as few sizes as possible. I have confirmed sources on this, don't question it. Kanye blew through $8M of Adidas' money last collection just for the sake of running a massive vanity project. Adidas still profited it off this through making back their money in the Tubulars and other Adidas variant sneakers. There is nothing special about the clothes, they are made in the Adidas factory and use typical product production methods. This isn't like Visvim where you have guys literally hand dying every strip by hand using 16th century methods. The pricing is bullshyt, and you all know that.

The sneakers and boots sold amazingly, but they always have so that's not news. They were also limited so they couldn't serve as a cash grab to recover the costs of doing an $8M promotional line. Right now, they're stating they're releasing it in a seasonless model to spread it out but the real reason probably is to get their production margin and minimums up high enough to not lose as much money this time around when producing such small quantities for that many stores.

Going seasonless is bullshyt, the fashion distribution system does not work that way. You can break it up into quarters but anything more than that and the retailers will be too rushed to be able to turn products around fast enough, and thus make buying Yeezy a huge risk for them. Stores need minimum 90 days from point of delivery to flip products. The shoes will definitely have ridiculous camp outs but the clothes won't. For E-Commerce maybe he can drop every week, but that's putting him more in the category of a brand like Supreme, when he wants to be treated like Wang or somebody else high end.

If you don't believe me, when the list of stockists holding Yeezy 2 comes out, see if it's twice as big as the first year list, the same size, or smaller. It will probably be smaller, because no decent retail store wants to spend $20k on bullshyt product that doesn't move. Laws of the jungle, real fashion is forever. Hype is temporary bullshyt. He may have done one season so far and got everybody to buy, but if the retailers aren't actually making money off it they logically won't do it again if they care about their bottom line.
 

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:mjlol: OP literally said in like the 4th or 5th sentence he's not talking about lending his name and designs to a bigger corporation. That's all Adidas is doing. Using his name.

He's spent like 100x what Adidas pays him burning money on trying to develop his own couture label. that's what op is talking about
Those clothes sell out every time it's released. I still don't have my hoodie because they sell out in 30 minutes. Lol
 

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How are you failing if all your shyt sells out within under a day?
I'm talking about his "couture" line YEEZY season 2-4.

The sneakers have always sold welll. The clothes, not so much.

And like I listed in my last post, retailers bought the bare minimum to ride the hype train, but have been struggling to get rid of their inventory and here in NYC at places like KITH and Barney's, it's marked down and still not moving.
 

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The bolded times ten

Rappers have had successul clothing lines, that's not an excuse.

Ye, Pharrell, and Tyler The Creator are arguably the only rappers that can get clothes to sell...everyone else? Not as much.

True but they pandered to their core audience Kanye on some bullshyt and he's a better rapper than fashion designer maybe he should've became a actor:manny:
 

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@Zechs Merquise I don't know how those stores are going to work.

It's gonna be a place where you go in and there's nothing on the racks, cause everything is sold out.

My dude told me he waited 3 hours to get into the TLOP pop-up shop on wooster.

:snoop:
 

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Because he's an elite musician he thinks he can seamlessly transition into being an elite fashion designer. Mad arrogant if you think about it.

Ppl pay their dues and put in mad years in fashion just like he did in music.

Imagine Elon Musk decides he want to drop RnB albums and starts throwing tantrums because no one takes his music seriously.
 

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Kanye fails in fashion because he has no formal training in it. It's like if a race car driver all of a sudden wanted to become a car builder, but never learned how to work on cars or design/fabricate parts. All the fashion people Kanye is up against... they're serious. They are trained. They actually sew and design shyt. What exactly is Kanye's role in his fashion line besides paying people and approving shyt? It's like becoming the boss of a company without actually doing any work in it and having no prior experience of leading a company.
Yeah, there's more to fashion than just seeing something and thinking "that would be cool".

I have friends that went to FIT, and are now working for big names. It''s about sourcing materials, it's about comparing samples, it's about looking at fabrices, it's about sourcing production.

But hey, we live in an era where if you have a copy of photoshop and gildan blank ts you can be a designer as well.
 

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a lot of pieces that hit the runway never hit the racks
everything ye has put in stores has sold out instantly he moves product he'll be fine
the yeezy season shyt is basically an art project for him

ye never could dress anyway he still can't really jahahahahaa
but for individuals who take style cues from entertainment icons/idols he's the blueprint
you gotta know adidas knows how hot ye/kardashians name is with most consumers watch and wait

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Kanye is the male version of Beyonce.

Peopel want to be like him, but can't.
People want to be associated with him
People want his co-sign
People want to soak up his greatness.

He combines the egotical pompousness of Michael Jordan with the star power of Michael Jackson.

On the contrary, I think he's one of the best dressers out there period.

There are sometimes I see pictures of him in concert and the man doesn't even seem like a man to me...but a god. Or the closest thing to a god there is.

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This is not a man, this is a god!

I remember when Yeezus came out and straight up I would be having conversations with randoms over cigarettes with my freinds and this gay white dude joined in and said "Kanye is transcending the lines between everything and anything possible"

Like that picture is brilliance right there.

The Yeezus tour was beyond a tour, it was like theatre.

Kanye West reminds me of Phillip Seymour Hoffman's character is Synedoche, New York....pulling us along for something but has us waiting for eons.

Say what you want about him but Kanye west to me represents the black man, the black struggle, black excellence, and why society is drawn to us.
 
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