Why is it so hard for the Democratic Party to take accountability?

[The Wall Brother]

The GOP has found a way to 'flood the zone' with disinformation, while making it feel authentic. Meanwhile, Dems keep trying to insert themselves into these spaces with cringeworthy campaigns that feel corporate and out of touch. They needed to tap into existing communities and create content that actually resonates instead of throwing money at ad buys and hope for the best. People like Kai Cenat don’t want to alienate their audience by going full political, but that’s where a smarter strategy should be implemented. Instead of asking them to make endorsements, Dems should have built narratives around class and economic fairness without making it feel like a forced political ad. The GOP figured this out a long time ago. Their propaganda is disguised as entertainment and community discourse. Dems still act like voters are just waiting for the next ‘Vote or Die’ campaign, when in reality, they should be cultivating longer term culturally embedded narratives that make these progressive values feel like common sense instead of a partisan pitch

 

[AnonymityX1000]

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First, he needs to stop hallucinating in his bedroom for that to happen. It's because of out of touch posters that find that moron intelligent and funny that the Democrat party lost.

lol he totally over shares his life on this site to like we are his support group.
This niqqa is seeing things like a scytzo. Wild.

 

[Outlaw]

This is exactly the oblivious, condescending attitude that keeps the Dems weak. I didn’t vote for Trump, I voted for the Socialist Party. But keep pretending that everyone who criticizes them must be some brainwashed Republican. That's the binary thinking that has gotten the duopoly so embedded in the minds of American people. If Democrats were serious about stopping fascism they'd have gotten off of Wall Street's dikk a long time ago. Blaming voters instead of the corrupt system that manipulates them is lazy and politically useless. If your only response to election losses is, ‘the voters are stupid,’ then you have NO STRATEGY, NO SOLUTIONS, AND NO REAL UNDERSTANDING OF POWER. Fascism isn’t defeated by scolding people, it’s defeated by building a real working class movement.

This dude voted third party with Trump on the ballot. You’re obviously white, instead of asking Dems to take accountability ask your white brethren why they’d rather vote for a incompetent fascist than vote for the dem nominee who actually offered policy positions that would have made their life better

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Parliamentary systems aren't full proof is my main point.

If you actually understood that (you don't) you'd wouldn't be acting as if they were the silver bullet to issues plaguing the US

I don't think it's a silver bullet. But let's try having more choices not less. We can't even try it since what we are doing now definitely isn't working? Damn.

 

[RickyDiBiase]

I don't think it's a silver bullet. But let's try having more choices not less. We can't even try it since what we are doing now definitely isn't working? Damn.

Because people like you, and the third parties you dikk ride aren't serious people.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

This dude voted third party with Trump on the ballot. You’re obviously white, instead of asking Dems to take accountability ask your white brethren why they’d rather vote for a incompetent fascist than vote for the dem nominee who actually offered policy positions that would have made their life better

If you vote third party you must be white. lol WTF?!

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

Out of touch?

You literally dikk ride Elon Musk- whose well on his way to be a trillionaire if he has his way.

Also, you were quiet as a church mouse when he and the rest of his flunkies were fanning the flames of those race riots ya'll had, but you were nowhere to be seen nor heard of despite being all up in our buisness

White man's dikk must be too good for you to hop off of it, huh?

Having one of your hallucinating episodes again, dikk head? Do us a favour, why don't you and your ilk jump into an erupting volcano? That's the only way you guys will be taken seriously by anybody!

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Because people like you, and the third parties you dikk ride aren't serious people.

Let's get some serious people in there then.

 

[At30wecashout]

The Dems should be held accountable for not pushing through The John Lewis Voting Right Act after they got the Senate and House in 2020. That should've been the very first legislation to get passed, especially after Kemp sign that Voting restriction bill in Georgia after Warnock & Ossoff won. That along with other states following, even on a local level lead to 3 million votes being purged.


But that's not the only reason they lost, The Right Wing Mainstream Media and Social Media controlled the narrative with misinformation, disinformation, and culture wars talking points.

One thing to push back on as this is a common theme: “the Dems” didnt need to be punished for it, Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema should be punished.

In the 2020-2022 congress, two voting rights bills passed the Democratic House: For the People Act and the John Lewis bill. For the People Act hit the Senate in March of 2021, two months after Biden hit office. The John Lewis bill went to the Senate in September of 2021. Both dies in the senate with Manchin opposing the For the People Act and Sinema opposing the John Lewis bill. This was all over the news and anyone educated on the subject should know that a 50-50 Senate needs all of its votes to pass a bill even with the VP as the 51st vote and both were resistant to changing filibuster rules. it even got Kyrsten censured.

Long story short, Dems needed more votes and Americans rewarded them by taking away 3 democratic seats in the Senate, killing any chance of a voting law. I say all of this to say it’s publicly available and things would work way better if people paid attention and reward the folks doing good and stop saying “the democrats.” Learn names and fight for those who fight for you. Voters not educating themselves on these things flies in the face of OPs point. People are stupid.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4

^^^The bills and all of the associated bills on the same pages that would have addressed a ton of issues with money in politics, voter access, etc. Americans can vote for eggs but not for the right to vote .

 

[The Wall Is Undefeated!]

lol he totally over shares his life on this site to like we are his support group.
This niqqa is seeing things like a scytzo. Wild.

Because he is. And many of thecoli that like him only encourage his delusions. The truth of the matter is that he and his ilk need thecoli to make them look tough and intelligent because in IRL they are nothing.

 

[Luke Cage]

Third party voters are basically non voters. They don't actually participate. Might as well ignore just like the politicians do

 

[Drip Bayless]

You brought that up for what reason?
You admit the two party system has got us in a bad spot right now but you are still this attached to it? Buy a backbone dude.

Here we come to the crux of the matter, a lot of people fear change, even when the status quo is actively hurting them. It's the result of decades of psychological conditioning that makes people accept their oppression as inevitable. During the Civil Rights era, there were plenty of Black people who opposed protests. Not because they loved segregation, but because they had been conditioned to believe that the fight wasn’t winnable. They had seen so much violence and oppression that accepting second-class citizenship felt safer than risking death or imprisonment. We see the same thing today. So many people can’t even fathom a world without billionaires hoarding all the wealth, or coporations owning our political system, or where universal health care is a basic right. When you suggest radical change, they instinctively say, “That’s not realistic," because decades of propaganda have trained them to think that way. The ruling class survives on this fear. They don’t need to keep people physically shackled when they can keep them mentally shackled and trapped in a mindset where they believe that suffering is just the way things are. That’s why political imagination is so dangerous to the system, because once people start really believing a better world is possible, they start demanding it. Look at the quote below, this guy says that there will never be real socialism in America, do you know how many people who said we would never have an 8 hour workday or stop using child labor, you know how many people said women will never be able to have jobs?

That means you did, you god damn pinko

There will never be real socialism in America, you should've learned that in your early 20s

They said the same thing about every worker's right we have today.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

I do agree we can not and should not absolve people of the responsibility of their choices, my point was that to boil the discussion down to "They're stupid and racist. End of story." is both lazy and politically useless. If the goal is to actually change things, then just blaming voters for being dumb and racist ignores the larger forces at play that shape their decisions. People have agency, but agency isn’t exercised in a vacuum. Utah’s union workers, for example, aren’t just making individual choices independent of their environment, they are living in a deeply entrenched conservative political and media ecosystem that has spent decades conditioning them to vote against their own material interests. Simply lecturing or ridiculing them isn’t a political strategy. If people are enabling their own exploitation, the question isn’t just "why are they so stupid?" It’s why does the alt right's message resonate more than the Dem’s, and what can be done to counteract that? You don’t fix a broken political consciousness by scolding people, you fix it by offering an alternative that is stronger and more emotionally compelling than the one they’re currently following

But that's the thing. You can offer someone a slate of policies that would materially improve their lives, but how do you break through their opposition to those same policies being extended to people outside their "culture"? Remember the New Deal? It was incredibly popular until Black people started gaining access to its benefits, at which point support among white conservatives eroded. The same dynamic played out with desegregation, welfare, and even healthcare reform. The right's messaging is effective not just because it exploits "economic anxiety" but because it ties material well-being to identity, which in turn convinces people that their status depends on keeping "others" down.

So yea, you need an emotionally compelling alternative, but it has to account for the fact that most of these voters aren't just being misled or manipulated, but are actively invested in the hierarchy that they feel benefits them, even when it doesn't. How do you counter a worldview where losing your place at the top feels like you're being oppressed simply because someone else is getting some benefit, too? That's the challenge, and simply offering better policies isn't enough if those policies are perceived as a threat to their place in society.

I still believe those policies should be fought for anyway because they serve a greater societal good. Still...

 

[RickyDiBiase]

Having one of your hallucinating episodes again, dikk head? Do us a favour, why don't you and your ilk need to jump into an erupting volcano. That's the only way you guys will be taken seriously by anybody!

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/ever-since-the-wall-is-undefeated-got-exposed-for-being-an-elon-musk-dikk-sniffer-he-stopped-posting.1014032/#post-51542456

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Third party voters are basically non voters. They don't actually participate. Might as well ignore just like the politicians do

If our numbers increased they can't ignore us. But too many are stuck on the Dems and their billion dollar donors. It's sad.