Why in the FUKK does modern R&B suck ASS!!??

[The Fade]

Couple reasons, first is because nobody is playing actual music. It’s all some bullshyt, single producer, on a laptop looping rap beats. As I got older I realized why so many 90s hip hops hits were hits, the music was a hit even without lyrics or vocals on top of it. The band would get together with the producer and artist and they would figure that shyt out. So many songs came out of jam sessions where everyone was just grooving and something stood out. Today the damn artist isnt involved in the process till the end. They get emailed a track and they just throw vocals on top of it.

2nd, these folks can’t sing. The women just a pretty face to put out some non singing banshee wails. They not even trying to sing. They putting out this so called “vibe” music. shyt sounds like what you hear from the band at an all inclusive resort or smoky cigar lounge, it’s aight when you half drunk thinking about them cheeks you about to smash but let’s be real, you ain’t bumping that in the ride. But to be honest, you can be a mediocre singer if the music is legit, see Amerie, but we have established the music is now trash.

Third it’s both too many outlets and too few outlets. Let me explain. Everyone has a record label, and everyone is trying to get paid. So there is an overload of trash out there because the filtering process is nonexistent. Used to be you would put a lot of effort and resources behind an artist because there were significant costs to getting them pushed and getting the product out to the market and in stores. So this artist had to have talent, the music had to be good, etc. Now, they just throw that shyt up on streaming. Cost of entry is damn near non-existent. Now, the too few outlets part. Like 2 companies own all the radio stations. So they set up their playlist and they pumping the same bullshyt nation wide. That shyt wasn’t legal till a law changed in the mid 90s. Regional hits that gain momentum is dead. I remember growing up you could tune in to some local stations and they would play entire albums, if a track stood out requests would pile up and the song would take off. It was in a stations best interest to find out what the public actually liked and keep playing it. Memphis soul was different from Philly soul which was different from Motown, etc…. Now everyone sounds like generic trash.

I hate that I’ve become that old person who shyts on new stuff, but legit feel like this stuff is bad. It has no artistic or musical value to it. I shouldn’t have to work in order to find good music like some people here suggest. It should find its way to the top naturally.

Agree. The Jam Session has always been vital to black music

 

[Dwight Howard]

Unimaginative writing and even worse production. I go to indie for my r&b fix now, atleast they put alot of effort into their shyt

 

[Sbp]

Op. You gotta understand it starts at the top. The sounds you mainly hear on the radio is what labels want. If the big wigs wanted a better type of product you would hear that on the radio. If lo-fi bullshyt is what the bosses are calling for that's what the workers(artists) are going to produce. Simple as that.

 

[Geode]

Whenever these threads pop up and people post examples to refute, I'm still like

Most of these singers are not strong singers, male and female.

 

[Solo_87]

I feel the OP's pain, the shyt is terrible.

No bridges in songs, no back ground singers, no runs from the singer. shyt is just flat and blah, nothing soulful about anything.

Toni Braxton - Let It Flow (Official HD Video) - YouTube

This is a "chill" song, but there are changes in the chords and keys, and there's a fukkING BRIDGE & fukkING BACKGROUND SINGERS. The singer has a run on top of the bridge and it ends with the bridge.

No 808s, or trap shyt going on. No hi-hats. or kicks. Just instrumentation and great key changes that goes with the singer's vocals.

fukking R&B is so fukking trash these days.



She has a fukking a bridge and build up in the bridge, I haven't heard a bridge in any of these new R&B songs.


Notice has she displays in her vocals at the end "la la dada dada"

My favorite Toni record. I love a good bridge

The Waiting to Exhale soundtrack was so dope. No skips

 

[Solo_87]

Whenever these threads pop up and people post examples to refute, I'm still like

Most of these singers are not strong singers, male and female.

Yup

Very few vocalist nowadays

I blame Drake lol

 

[I AM WARHOL]

It’s all smoking music now unfortunately

 

[CrimsonTider]

Couple reasons, first is because nobody is playing actual music. It’s all some bullshyt, single producer, on a laptop looping rap beats. As I got older I realized why so many 90s hip hops hits were hits, the music was a hit even without lyrics or vocals on top of it. The band would get together with the producer and artist and they would figure that shyt out. So many songs came out of jam sessions where everyone was just grooving and something stood out. Today the damn artist isnt involved in the process till the end. They get emailed a track and they just throw vocals on top of it.

2nd, these folks can’t sing. The women just a pretty face to put out some non singing banshee wails. They not even trying to sing. They putting out this so called “vibe” music. shyt sounds like what you hear from the band at an all inclusive resort or smoky cigar lounge, it’s aight when you half drunk thinking about them cheeks you about to smash but let’s be real, you ain’t bumping that in the ride. But to be honest, you can be a mediocre singer if the music is legit, see Amerie, but we have established the music is now trash.

Third it’s both too many outlets and too few outlets. Let me explain. Everyone has a record label, and everyone is trying to get paid. So there is an overload of trash out there because the filtering process is nonexistent. Used to be you would put a lot of effort and resources behind an artist because there were significant costs to getting them pushed and getting the product out to the market and in stores. So this artist had to have talent, the music had to be good, etc. Now, they just throw that shyt up on streaming. Cost of entry is damn near non-existent. Now, the too few outlets part. Like 2 companies own all the radio stations. So they set up their playlist and they pumping the same bullshyt nation wide. That shyt wasn’t legal till a law changed in the mid 90s. Regional hits that gain momentum is dead. I remember growing up you could tune in to some local stations and they would play entire albums, if a track stood out requests would pile up and the song would take off. It was in a stations best interest to find out what the public actually liked and keep playing it. Memphis soul was different from Philly soul which was different from Motown, etc…. Now everyone sounds like generic trash.

I hate that I’ve become that old person who shyts on new stuff, but legit feel like this stuff is bad. It has no artistic or musical value to it. I shouldn’t have to work in order to find good music like some people here suggest. It should find its way to the top naturally.

STFU

 

[NO-BadAzz]

My favorite Toni record. I love a good bridge

The Waiting to Exhale soundtrack was so dope. No skips

That was one of Whitney Houston's favorite song.

 

[Doctor Wily]

Almost none of these new singers have any natural imperfections in thier vocal tones... autotunes hides all that shyt

 

[King Sun]

Meh low rb is better than. New rap projects now. You not getting ex choir boy/girl rnb groups no more.

 

[Mowgli]

Like this shyt is so FUKKING horrible

Fresh Finds: R&B

Peep this bullshyt, supposed to be the newest R&B hits

Always the same boring ass lo-fi bullshyt

Throw in some basic ass low tempo 808 beat, slap some fukking dark synths, and maybe some CAC playing an acoustic guitar riff

Everybody tryna be some cookie cutter version of the biggest supposed R&B artists that do the exact same shyt.

SHYT is HORRIBLE!

Where the fukk is the uptempo shyt, everyone trying to be all too cool for school and shyt. Seem like Bruno Mars and that other dude are the only one's even pushing the envelope a little and they're steady biting off old tracks people forgot about.

R&B fukking sucks now. Soul is non-existent as well. A mfer shouldn't have to listen to shyt from 20-30 years ago just to get a fukking vibe

Cant have soul without church. New singers have forsaken the holy tabernacle if the Baptist church and it's a wrap.

 

[How Sway?]

Maybe if more youth start going to church and joining the band and/or choir, then maybe then it'll change. But I doubt it.

 

[concise]

You played yourself. I was with you in the premise of the thread, but ppl have posted good music and you're just looking to complain. On top of this, you don't even know what you're listening for.

I can find enjoyable r&b from the 60s 80s 80s 90s 00s 10s and even now. Things evolve, but chord structure, harmony, runs, melody have made their way back.

Hope you find what you're looking for

This thread was created to be a pity party and dap fest.


Maybe it isn't R&B that he wants, maybe it's gospel.

 

[The G.O.D II]

Brent Faiyaz has been killing it for years.




You got low key fire like this from Alex Isley




Dvsn and Ty dolla just dropped fire in the summer but I don’t think y’all would like that

But you still got Daniel Ceasar, Sampha, Giveon, Leon Bridges, Jazmine Sullivan having a revival, Solange. R&B is at its strongest in years.