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oh & the production standard has fallen way worse than the vocal standard..........*
Why in the FUKK does modern R&B suck ASS!!??
- Thread starter King
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Main problem to me is they cuss too much, can't even play it around your kids. R&B topics have always been the same so not criticizing that, but damn it's zero imagination about the shyt. Everybody just blunt now.
"There's good out there you just gotta search for it." Yea but like others said, why I gotta search??
I'm not even saying it's all bad now cause there IS good stuff out but everybody used to have the chance to be heard by the masses if people dug it. People pushed back in that post last week cause cats were "old manning" it like I'm doing now but it was true.
It took a few years to show but that's the effect of that 1997 FCC/clear channel Monopoly deal (and the 106 n park/TRLs that replaced the video shows). DJs used to actually be able to choose what they wanted to play instead of putting the exact same 20 song playlist on loop all day in every city in America so everything didn't sound the same.
But hey those days ain't coming back so..
"There's good out there you just gotta search for it." Yea but like others said, why I gotta search??
I'm not even saying it's all bad now cause there IS good stuff out but everybody used to have the chance to be heard by the masses if people dug it. People pushed back in that post last week cause cats were "old manning" it like I'm doing now but it was true.
It took a few years to show but that's the effect of that 1997 FCC/clear channel Monopoly deal (and the 106 n park/TRLs that replaced the video shows). DJs used to actually be able to choose what they wanted to play instead of putting the exact same 20 song playlist on loop all day in every city in America so everything didn't sound the same.
But hey those days ain't coming back so..
Love the song, but there is clearly A kick in there.This is another "chill" song in that Ella Mae pocket tier
Tender Kisses - YouTube
The track has no 808s, kicks, no hi-hats, it's pure keyboards, and a drum kit. and the drum-kit is used when changing keys, as the singer shifts her vocals. You can here the drum-kit change with the singer's vocal change.
AND IT HAS A fukkING BRIDGE IN THE SONG.
She has background singers. There's elements throughout the production as the singer sings the fukking song, things are added and things come into the track on certain parts which enhances the singer's vocals.
The placement of these things are amazing and on point. AND THERE"S A fukkING BRIDGE IN THE SONG.
I hate this fukking modern day R&B
Fire all of these new ass producers
This fukking thread again 
I don't bother posted examples anymore, because you "R&B is dead" nikkas don't listen anyway. Furthermore, y'all know absolutely nothing about music to be saying all modern artists can't sing and that the production is bad. Lastly, if you can't find R&B you like in this era, then you were never a fan of R&B. You just liked the genre because it came on the rap radio station back in the day. You're not active listeners at all. Leave R&B to the real R&B heads. I've been eating so well off of R&B ever since I started using streaming services back in 2015.
I don't bother posted examples anymore, because you "R&B is dead" nikkas don't listen anyway. Furthermore, y'all know absolutely nothing about music to be saying all modern artists can't sing and that the production is bad. Lastly, if you can't find R&B you like in this era, then you were never a fan of R&B. You just liked the genre because it came on the rap radio station back in the day. You're not active listeners at all. Leave R&B to the real R&B heads. I've been eating so well off of R&B ever since I started using streaming services back in 2015.
KingFreeman
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I don't know if I'm presenting this in the right way.
But even all of these songs sound the same. One may have some other shyt sprinkled on it, but the meat of it is exactly the same. The same cookie cutter type beats. Same low tempo ass shyt. It's like they all basing their shyt off the same reference tracks
I get it's supposed to be the same genre and all but this shyt is ridiculous, I know I'm not crazy
The ones you quoted below me you can tell are copycatting off of the flow alone. The ones I posted at least sound different.
But it's personal preference
Wear My Dawg's Hat
Superstar
R&B/Soul (as we generally knew it...) as the leading form as popular Black musical expression, had about a 50-year run.
Basically starting with Louis Jordan in the mid 40s:
Right on up to the mid/late 90s, as practiced by Keith Sweat, Toni Braxton, Boyz II Men, and R. Kelly
Rap, Hip Hop Soul and Pop R&B replaced traditional church-influenced Black R&B/Soul by the late 90s. We're 25 years past the point of traditional R&B being dominant
Jazz had its Black popular music run from the 1900s up to the early 1960s.
Basically starting with Louis Jordan in the mid 40s:
Right on up to the mid/late 90s, as practiced by Keith Sweat, Toni Braxton, Boyz II Men, and R. Kelly
Rap, Hip Hop Soul and Pop R&B replaced traditional church-influenced Black R&B/Soul by the late 90s. We're 25 years past the point of traditional R&B being dominant
Jazz had its Black popular music run from the 1900s up to the early 1960s.
Wear My Dawg's Hat
Superstar
They need to abandon 808s, snares, autotune, and CURSING
I don't think it will ever go back.
The spiritual/soul values that informed much of traditional R&B have completely disappeared from the culture.
From the Marvin Gaye inner battle of the sacred versus the profane, the profane won.
And Ironically, Marvin Gaye used an actual Roland TR-808 on his last great album, Midnight Love.
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Tribal Outkast
Veteran
These are a few of my favorite more recent songs… personal classics if you will. I just get mad because people say “you have to search” for good r&b music which is fine. Man these songs come up in the algorithm or however else you hear them and you think they’re recently released songs… them shyts he 5 years old and shyt smh. I think a ton of these artists have been robbed of exposure. I hear a lot of songs that should be major smash hits but they just don’t make it. I’m like we had less when I was younger but somehow these artists seemed to get more exposure. They need to try to bring video shows back or something man… Get these same old same old songs TF out of here. You know why Bruno Mars and them win??? They got radio to help them. If Lion Babe got radio play I feel like they’d be stars out here.
Wear My Dawg's Hat
Superstar
It's been garbage for 20 years with a few exceptions here and there. Honestly I blame R Kelly and Mariah Carey. Both of them pivoted from music blessed by God's hands
R Kelly inherited the traditional approach and sexualized it (...and man, what we know now that we didn't know then).
Truth be told, Mariah is R&B's version of the Delta variant of COVID-19.
As Tommy Motolla's science project to create a "white version of Whitney Houston," she unleashed a virus of non-soulful, completely derivative pablum R&B and forced Hip Hop remixes that sounded every much like they came out of her Huntington, Long Island roots.
Black R&B died as she rose...
