Why doesn't God reveal himself to those who don't believe? (3 min.VID)

[NoMayo15]

See I didnt post smileys with no words. YOU DID. The only time I did that is when ol guy (I believe noon) was tryna clown because I believe people can do sorcery.

You believe cats can do voodoo, son? fukk you from, Haiti or some shyt?

See how that works. It's not really constructive. That's how you've been coming off for most of the thread.

We will never be able to pay off the US debt if the Reserve is just printing money with nothing backing it, and loaning us it at interest.

Source?

In other words, I have 1000 dollars and loan it to you at interest. Now you only have 1000, how are you gonna pay off that interest? Thats whats happening.

Ugh... do you even know what you're talking about? Do you have any idea?

Wow. Didnt think I would have to explain how the civil rights movement was revolting. I dont have to explain this do I?

I think people aren't revolting because they don't see it as large of a problem as you do. Most people live, ya know, in reality, where things aren't as bad as they were during the civil rights area, but hey ... what do I know? Maybe there are people who're gonna march for some lady's garden in Oklahoma?

REAL issues that happened in the past, don't happen as much today.

Its not just gonna be erased. Unless you erase those that are holding the debt over our head

Just don't see eye to eye with you on this

Does POTUS stand for puppet of the united states? Just wondering.

It doesn't, in fact.

And how many youngings do you know that look up to those men? Very few and far in between. And the abandoning father is mostly a myth? Come on breh? Really? Exaggerated? I gotcha. MYTH? Not at all. And I dont need a role model. Though I may take positive qualities from humans, I dont need to put them on a pedestal to know what I should be doing. Thats where parenting comes from. Along with other unseen factors that always factor in.

Okay, so is the problem fukkin not enough role models? Or is it a culture in which ignorance is revered, and people who believe science is of the devil?

Okay fine. You've been playing these semantics games for long enough. When ignore doesn't mean ignore, and an EXAGGERATED STEREOTYPE isn't a MYTH. Just stop.

Thats you. I rather have neither.

Fine. You want a utopia. Good luck, brother.

And what do you mean by litigation?

It's how white people fight. It's how the lady in Oklahoma is trying to get her garden back. Nothing happens overnight.

I think Im making it very plain. Except that follow the money part. But if you see that has happened and IS happening, how can you act as if its just fine?

I don't know. It's pretty fukked up.... I just don't care enough about it.

Homeless people are denied food in a free country?

Gardens that provide medical (and food) benefits are destroyed in a free country?

Yes or no? No need to play word games with it.

Don't know. If the rest of the community has agreed that these things are detrimental or are just not wanted, then yes, banning these things are part of the deal when living in a democracy. Don't really know the particulars of either situations tbh...

 

[ill]

Where did I say modern times? Can I not speak for myself? I dont think I need you projecting what I meant, or you thought I meant, onto me. Just take me at my word. N

BIAS. Thats all you're displaying here. You dont just correlate the population then to now and say that the former catastrophe is worse than today.
As I asked before, if there was only 10 people on earth and 5 die, are you gonna say that this was a worse catastrophe then the 20-40 million that died under Stalin because of percentages? Terrible way of correlating the disasters. They're both terrible.Both (Im sure) had innocent people die. But the way you're trying to correlate them is dishonest.

Of course when you try to cut off time periods you can make it say what you want. There was a "peaceful" time period between WW1 and WW2 as well. It doesnt matter.

No I should not believe just anyone and anybody at their word. He's a man. He's been wrong. He has biases. He has lied. etc... This is right about EVERY man and woman on earth. So I will not just take his word because he went to harvard. I mean are you seriously suggesting this? This explains to me that atheism is religion in nature. I mean you're doing the EXACT same thing you ridicule christians for doing. It is ridiculous.

Each genocide is horrible. Its nearly impossible to measure which is worse. I'm Russian and Jewish. I view the Holocaust as a worse atrocity than Stalins antics. I think in these situation you have to look at it as a % and the methods used and not just an absolute number.

Stalin killed 20 out of 160 million. Thats 12.5% of the total Russian population.
Hitler killed 6 out of 9.5 million in Europe. Thats 63% of the entire Jewish European population.

If 5 people out of 10 got killed and thats all the humans on Earth , thats 50% of the population. That is worse than Stalin. If you know anything about exponential growth, then killing off half your population cripples growth for a long time.

You keep changing the dates you want to use. Your initial question was are we better off now than before. Now = current times. If you're 80 years old, maybe you could have an argument about WW2 being in the picture. I'm 27. Current times means in my lifetime. In my lifetime I have not seen 6 million murdered. I have not seen a World War with 10's of millions dead. I have not seen 200k die in Korea.

The bolded is exactly why us "nonbelievers" don't believe. Everything you know of God was written by common man. You say you don't care for the church and the Bible, but your vision of what God is is based entirely off the history of the church and Bible. You are taking words that a man wrote as divine. The difference between that and the Harvard professor, is one can be replicated, scrutinized for accuracy, and can be proven one way or the other. I get you don't take him at his word. Thats your own problem. The rest of the educated world can read his study, dissect it, and come to their own conclusions which in turn will most likely be the same as the professor. In regards to God, the bible thumpers want us to blindly put faith in this subject that can't be replicated, can't be proven, and makes us assume that some magical powers spoke to people and told them how humans should handle themselves.

 

[Everythingg]

his game is short
he gets trapped easily then just proceeds to sidestep the rebuttals
it is what it is

Get off the cheerleading breh

 

[tmonster]

Get off the cheerleading breh

if you say so

 

[Everythingg]

You believe cats can do voodoo, son? fukk you from, Haiti or some shyt?

See how that works. It's not really constructive. That's how you've been coming off for most of the thread.

You're pretending. I've been typing words and practically begging people to stop with the deflections and respond to what Im saying. You're the only one that has done this and even YOU were guilty of what you're now condemning.

Source?

Source on the federal reserve or its lending practices?

Ugh... do you even know what you're talking about? Do you have any idea?

Let me recap since you're pretending again.....

-Federal Reserve is in charge of printing money
-Fed prints money and is not subject to audits
-Fed loans said money to US at interest which creates debt

Where am I wrong and why?

I think people aren't revolting because they don't see it as large of a problem as you do. Most people live, ya know, in reality, where things aren't as bad as they were during the civil rights area, but hey ... what do I know? Maybe there are people who're gonna march for some lady's garden in Oklahoma?

Exactly They still have their distractions so they're not going to revolt till its too late.

It doesn't, in fact.

The president is a puppet breh. You dont believe he is the one making the decisions do you? Or congress?

Okay, so is the problem fukkin not enough role models? Or is it a culture in which ignorance is revered, and people who believe science is of the devil?

Okay fine. You've been playing these semantics games for long enough. When ignore doesn't mean ignore, and an EXAGGERATED STEREOTYPE isn't a MYTH. Just stop.

Did I ever say that there was just one problem? Are of those things are problems.

So ignore doesnt mean to intentionally disregard? Yes an exaggerated stereotype is not a myth. A myth is not real. Im sure you wouldnt agree that absentee fathers is absolutely and unequivocally a problem that blacks do not face. Right?

Fine. You want a utopia. Good luck, brother.

I want the best world possible.

It's how white people fight. It's how the lady in Oklahoma is trying to get her garden back. Nothing happens overnight.

The courts are prejudiced and paid off.

I don't know. It's pretty fukked up.... I just don't care enough about it.



Don't know. If the rest of the community has agreed that these things are detrimental or are just not wanted, then yes, banning these things are part of the deal when living in a democracy. Don't really know the particulars of either situations tbh...

Of course not. Very few care which is why it happens.

Breh, can you answer? Do those things happen in a "free" country?

 

[Everythingg]

if you say so

 

[tmonster]

 

[Everythingg]

Each genocide is horrible. Its nearly impossible to measure which is worse. I'm Russian and Jewish. I view the Holocaust as a worse atrocity than Stalins antics. I think in these situation you have to look at it as a % and the methods used and not just an absolute number.

Stalin killed 20 out of 160 million. Thats 12.5% of the total Russian population.
Hitler killed 6 out of 9.5 million in Europe. Thats 63% of the entire Jewish European population.

If 5 people out of 10 got killed and thats all the humans on Earth , thats 50% of the population. That is worse than Stalin. If you know anything about exponential growth, then killing off half your population cripples growth for a long time.

That doesnt make the situation worse because of percentages. Which is why you keep skipping over my question.

10 people on earth and 5 are killed. This is worse than the 20 million (which again is an underestimation is some people's eyes by about 50%) that were killed on the behalf of Stalin? Thats bias. No other way to slice it. Not to mention theres no way of us knowing if the 300 million pop that you suggested was around the time of the crusades is accurate. None of these numbers are when it comes down to it.

You keep changing the dates you want to use. Your initial question was are we better off now than before. Now = current times. If you're 80 years old, maybe you could have an argument about WW2 being in the picture. I'm 27. Current times means in my lifetime. In my lifetime I have not seen 6 million murdered. I have not seen a World War with 10's of millions dead. I have not seen 200k die in Korea.

I said I see the world is getting worse. Thats a simple statement that is not specifically focused on violence. Then someone else says that its the most peaceful time. I have since that comment, been waiting on the information that can lead us to this. I havent seen anything other than Pinker. Then when I read Pinker and attempt to discuss his findings everyone runs and hides.

The bolded is exactly why us "nonbelievers" don't believe. Everything you know of God was written by common man. You say you don't care for the church and the Bible, but your vision of what God is is based entirely off the history of the church and Bible. You are taking words that a man wrote as divine. The difference between that and the Harvard professor, is one can be replicated, scrutinized for accuracy, and can be proven one way or the other. I get you don't take him at his word. Thats your own problem. The rest of the educated world can read his study, dissect it, and come to their own conclusions which in turn will most likely be the same as the professor. In regards to God, the bible thumpers want us to blindly put faith in this subject that can't be replicated, can't be proven, and makes us assume that some magical powers spoke to people and told them how humans should handle themselves.

You still havent suggested how his study can be replicated or where his numbers came from.
You still havent suggested as to what he considers as "violence" and whether that account from economic violence as well.

Ya feel me?

Now again, what church do I believe in that you say I believe based off their history?

And of course people want you to place faith in God Almighty. Why havent you tried it and seen what happened?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Stalism was a state religion though...kinda like whats going on in North Korea. The leaders revered as gods and shyt?

 

[NoMayo15]

You're pretending. I've been typing words and practically begging people to stop with the deflections and respond to what Im saying. You're the only one that has done this and even YOU were guilty of what you're now condemning.

Nope, that is your posting style TO A TEE. When I posted just smileys, I was doing an caricature of YOU. It wasn't a serious response. Sorry that went over your head

Source on the federal reserve or its lending practices?

No, what is your justification for the claim that the US will never be able to pay off its debt.

Let me recap since you're pretending again.....

-Federal Reserve is in charge of printing money
-Fed prints money and is not subject to audits
-Fed loans said money to US at interest which creates debt

Where am I wrong and why?

The Fed the US's central banking system. It prints money and gives it to the banks to loan out to people. There is nothing inherently bad about creating debt. How that corporation or individual pays back that debt depends on the reason they take out a loan in the first place.

Exactly They still have their distractions so they're not going to revolt till its too late.

The president is a puppet breh. You dont believe he is the one making the decisions do you? Or congress?

Did I ever say that there was just one problem? Are of those things are problems.

I'm not interested in discussing conspiracy theories. My point was Barack Obama is a pretty good black role model.

So ignore doesnt mean to intentionally disregard? Yes an exaggerated stereotype is not a myth. A myth is not real. Im sure you wouldnt agree that absentee fathers is absolutely and unequivocally a problem that blacks do not face. Right?

Yes, that's exactly what it means. To ignore something means to PAY NO ATTENTION TO IT. NOT PAYING TOO LITTLE ATTENTION. You've said science, like the world does to Africa, ignores all of those supernatural events. Either you don't understand what it means to intentionally disregard, or .... no, I'm convinced you just don't know what it means.

Again a myth is a widely held, but false belief. The stereotype is that all or most black men don't take care of their kids. The facts DON'T line up with that belief. The word "MYTH" perfectly fits this example.

Just stop with the semantics. Whether or not we call it a stereotype or a myth the fact remains that it's not a big of a problem as some make it out to be.

I want the best world possible.

So do I, but you haven't justified why you think it's leading to a worse place.

The courts are prejudiced and paid off.

Whatever nikka.

Of course not. Very few care which is why it happens.

Breh, can you answer? Do those things happen in a "free" country?

I already did, and my answer was 'yes, they do'.

 

[NoMayo15]

So I will not just take his word because he went to harvard.

And this is retarded. It's not just that he's a Harvard grad (which does give him a bit more credibility), but it's that his work was released in the marketplace of ideas, thoroughly critiqued and reviewed by his peers, and most of his positions hold weight. Enough experts agree that his positions are justified. This is why an individual doesn't have to do an experiment to know the science is valid. The process is such that good ideas usually stay around and are considered "true" when agreed upon by the consensus, while wrong or bad ideas are generally modified or dropped after receiving enough criticism.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHO UPPED THIS THREAD, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

 

[NoMayo15]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHO UPPED THIS THREAD, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

 

[Incogno]

What seems to be going on today is that those in charge want people to lose their "spiritual selves" for their physical selves.

Bingo!

I wonder why?

A false sense of pride distorts and corrupts the proper perspective in relation to each other and GOD

A false sense of pride comes naturally to mankind

Who first exhibited pride?...lucifer...his pride created his competitive nature...his discontent....his desire for more power......his desire to be above GOD.......his pride created his ill feelings toward GOD

What happened in the garden of Eden?...satan brought pride to mankind

I see connections...

Inferiority complex(hides feelings of superiority) related to his time in heaven or/and his feelings toward GOD

Superiority complex(hides feelings of inferiority) related to his time on earth or/and his feelings toward mankind

Satan spoke to eve(superiority complex)

Adam listened(inferiority complex)



That's the importance of Jesus perfect humility....transforming us back in the image of GOD


His humility is our salvation(the proper perspective)
His salvation is our humility(the proper perspective)

 

[Everythingg]

Stalism was a state religion though...kinda like whats going on in North Korea. The leaders revered as gods and shyt?

Yea its not the first time that has happened.