Why doesn't God reveal himself to those who don't believe? (3 min.VID)

[NoMayo15]

I got the run around this whole thread. Remember when I asked you for the specific study you saw that stated what you did? You gave me the run around. Kinda like you asking me for proof that God exists, and I tell you to read the words of Moses. You wouldnt take that. You would want to see what I saw, or at least know what I experienced. Thats what I asked you for.

In regards to others, they said I was retarded for saying something, I then elaborated, only to see them ridicule and name call some more.

In short, they gave me the run around instead of directly answering. But I did directly answer you here.

FOLLOW the money. Where it ends up (or starts), that will be your answer.

But this is your belief. I'm not asking you to do research and find peer reviewed studies. I'm asking you to state what you think. I gave you an example of precisely what I described. It might not have been the specific one I referred to, but their doing similar work. You still never conceded the fact that you were wrong when you said NO science is dedicated to this stuff. You just again moved the goal post by saying .. what I THINK you were trying to say ... is not ENOUGH research is being done. And you wonder why people think you're a joke and have given up on you.

When the hell did you say anything about Moses? I just remember you saying something about vibrating during an out of body experience. I don't even know what that means.

Saying "follow the money" with no kind of context is not an answer. It's an avoidance of an answer. Why be so cryptic?

 

[ill]

Oh, and stop talking about finance. You literally don't know anything about finance other than simpleton shyt. There's levels to this shyt.

 

[NoMayo15]

Where did he get his stats from? I don't know. I didn't do his research for him. If you've ever been in higher education then you should know where he finds his sources. National governments put out statistics. Well respected advocacy groups put out statistics, etc. They don't just make this stuff up out of thin air like someone claiming the Holy Spirit told them what to write in the Bible. Economic warfare has gone on since the start of humanity. Kings (Ironic with your name and all) hoarded all of the cash and their people were slaves to them. The opportunities of wealth for the common man is greater than before. I'd talk more finance with you but from your posts I don't think you truly understand finance so I won't go deeper into that.

And what's more to the point is @King-Over-Kingz is so dishonest about it. Sensitive BG posted information about the professor, and in the clip he went over his book and you could see his sources and look them up yourself if he wanted. But what did KOK do? Jordan Smiley. Typical.

 

[NoMayo15]

so god can't have a beginning because god began everything? so god is a thing that can't have a beginning?
how do you know this is so?

He doesn't know this. He's defining a god into existence. It's just a bunch of logically fallacies

 

[Everythingg]

One, can you chill with the smileys? I get it, you think everything is hilarious, and the only way you can express it is through Jordan's face. Knock it off. Makes you look like an @sshole, and the post longer than it needs to be.

I dont see what the problem is. Am I not typing words in between the smilies? It aint like Im just posting smilies with no words (as you did me one time in this thread) And what makes one look like more of an "a$$hole"? The one that calls the other "dumbass", "retard", "stupid" and "moron" or the one that even when called those names hasnt returned ONE back? Get off the moral high horse breh. I like to discuss so lets do that. But dont try to act as Im the one in the wrong when I've been called names and ridiculed, but havent returned the same actions.

Yes. A simple intro economics course can teach you that not all debt is equal and sometimes debt is a good thing ... or at least better than the alternative. If the choice is to take out a $30k loan and go to college to increase your skills and value, or go straight into the workforce, it might be more beneficial in the long-run to do so. Sure, you might not have much in the short-term, but if you're making $50k+/yr as opposed to $20k, that debt might not be a big problem in the long-run. Plus you've increased your human capital, which can lead to even greater wages later on. I can't beleive I'm explaining the benefits of going to fukking college to someone... Jesus.

And you pretend that I dont know the benefits of going to college? Now again I asked you a question, would you ENCOURAGE your child to accumulate debt when going to college? Especially to the figures that the US has? I dont think so. Also, especially when you can NEVER pay off the interest accumulated off said debt.

Yeah, if I don't have the money (fortunately, my parents did), then yeah, most likely. One major problem is people are going to expensive colleges and are getting degrees in fields that growing or that have no opportunities to make an above average wage. Their having to pay off the debt longer, which is a strain on them, and keeps them from buying or doing other things that they need.

The real problem is people are being blinded from whats going on so instead of doing what their ancestors did (revolt) they're continuing to support a system which enriches those in charge of said system.

That is basic, and the same principle applies to the US. I agree that it's a concern, but it's not that big of a problem. It's not like we're at the point where we're going to default tomorrow and the whole global economy crashes.

Breh, eventually it will happen. We dont know if its in our life, or the next generation etc.. .But let me ask you this, you dont care that it could come on your descendants head? You're just willing to let them deal with what they get?

Yeah but this is stuff that's always been happening. Most of it is happening at a rate less than it has in the past.

No its not. In the 60's we had Malcolm and MLK. Not to mention fathers in the home. Nowadays theres no positive black role model for people to look up to. fathers are in jail. And rappers/atheletes/celebrities have taken the place of our original leaders. Of course this is in general. I had a father in my home. Some of my friends did as well. Im just speaking on the plight of the black person and how its not where it should be if we are in a "free" country.

Again, so what? You're moving the goal posts again. Sure, it's happening. But it's not as egregious. Period. I mean, when was the last time you saw a group of white men surrounding a black man hung by a tree? Do you think we're gonna go back to that? What's your justification for this?

So because we are not getting mobbed means that things have gotten better? This is how you measure its getting better? Ignore everything else?

Are you implying the US government conspired in the assassinations of these men?

I mean... if there's no alternative then... what are we left with?

Fight or live like a slave.

I don't know... what happened? I still don't understand what you're implying

So you dont know if the CIA watches certain individuals based on their agendas? Research and see if Malcolm was watched as well as MLK. As well as Huey P Newton. As well as Tupac. You know, anyone that has an idea of what is actually going on and tries to get that message out to the less fortunate?

This hits close to home, cause Raleigh is my city, and I can understand your concerns. It looks like at least the woman in Tulsa is suing the city, and hopefully she can get some type of reparation if she really was in the right. These are unfortunate events, but I still don't think they compare to stories like this: http://newsone.com/2032853/emmett-till-story/

The question wasnt does it compare to the emmett till story (though destroying a garden that feeds can be considered a violent act) but do these things happen in a "free" country? Yes or no?

 

[Everythingg]

because they made it up

I thought I ran you out the thread

 

[Blackking]

dont matter really.

 

[Everythingg]

And again you completely ignore using relative rational for your argument. The entire premise of this back and forth is that you stated we are worse off now than before. To make that argument valid, you have to prove that events today are relatively worse than events in the past. You have yet to do so. I have multiple posts disproving your theory and you just keep finding silly bullshyt to keep it going. Before you post anymore ridiculous stuff, think of it in a relative term. Are blacks better off now than 100 years ago. Compare their freedom, financial situation, place in society, etc before you spew more garbage. I'll answer this for you again - Blacks are in better standing overall than they were 100 years ago therefore you cannot say that their situation is worse off than before. Is there more or less violence towards blacks now or before? The answer again, is before. They were literally owned by whites, were slaves, were raped and beaten without consequence. You can't get away with that shyt now no matter how bleak your outlook is and no matter how many random incidence you try to claim. If 100 blacks got beaten today, yes it horrible. But in RELATIVE terms, its not so bad when you can look back in history and know that if this were 100 years ago, that number may be 5000 blacks that got beaten today.

And it doesnt matter that I have never said that blacks are in a better or worse off position as in the past?


I deserve 5 dollars. You give me 5 then take away three. Should I still be happy? Or should I not be happy till I get what I deserve?

 

[Everythingg]

But this is your belief. I'm not asking you to do research and find peer reviewed studies. I'm asking you to state what you think. I gave you an example of precisely what I described. It might not have been the specific one I referred to, but their doing similar work. You still never conceded the fact that you were wrong when you said NO science is dedicated to this stuff. You just again moved the goal post by saying .. what I THINK you were trying to say ... is not ENOUGH research is being done. And you wonder why people think you're a joke and have given up on you.

When the hell did you say anything about Moses? I just remember you saying something about vibrating during an out of body experience. I don't even know what that means.

Saying "follow the money" with no kind of context is not an answer. It's an avoidance of an answer. Why be so cryptic?

Yes you did. You told me to research studies instead of pointing me to the one that YOU SAW that stated what you did. If you didnt see on that stated what you did what you trippin for? And why havent you admitted that YOU was the one that was wrong?

So you didnt get what I was trying to say when I elaborated on what I meant by comparing it to the situation of Africans? Any person would tell you that Africa (and the problems in it) are being ignored by the media. This doesnt mean it doesnt get attention. See this is what I explained in a following post. Did you respond to the post? Nope.

My goodness breh, can you try to keep up? I said telling me to go research is like me telling you to read the bible. Its sending me elsewhere instead of YOU (the person that claims to know this) explaining it. Of course I cannot explain the whole bible in a post, just as you cannot describe an elaborate study, but I can provide you the general information, THEN link you to what says what I am. You couldnt do that. Then when I said "the link doesnt say what you orignally stated" you get mad and start name calling. Then Im the one that looks like an a$$hole for using smilies... Come on wit that.....

Follow the money is simple. Follow it. Where does the money come from? Where does it lead to? That should be that start of your answer of who the serpent is. I got the run around so Im giving it. Though this shouldnt be as "cryptic" as you're making it.

 

[ill]

What a terrible and biased way to come to the conclusion that this was the worst disaster in history.

So lets say there was a time that there were only 10 people on earth. 5 of them die, and you're gonna call a bigger disaster then the time when 6 mill died in the holocaust? Or the (alleged) 20 mill (which some say is a SEVERE UNDERSTATEMENT) that died as a result of Stalin? I think thats being dishonest.

I didn't say it was the worst disaster in history. I pointed out the horrific nature of bible thumpers. I pointed out this event to further drive home the point that we ARE better off now than in previous times.

And it doesnt matter that I have never said that blacks are in a better or worse off position as in the past?


I deserve 5 dollars. You give me 5 then take away three. Should I still be happy? Or should I not be happy till I get what I deserve?

The entire premise is that you question wether we are better off and more peaceful now than before. If you want to keep changing the end goal, we will go on for hours. If you want to take a stand and quit with the nonsense, then all of your arguments have been disproved. Just read through. Oh and for your example, you didn't start with $5. You started with 0 since the white man owned you.

 

[NoMayo15]

I dont see what the problem is. Am I not typing words in between the smilies? It aint like Im just posting smilies with no words (as you did me one time in this thread) And what makes one look like more of an "@sshole"? The one that calls the other "dumbass", "retard", "stupid" and "moron" or the one that even when

Yeah, I was mocking you. Because posting a million smileys in a post isn't a reasoned argument. It just makes you look like a dikk.

And when you act like a dikk, yeah people are more likely gonna act like a dikk back towards you.

And you pretend that I dont know the benefits of going to college? Now again I asked you a question, would you ENCOURAGE your child to accumulate debt when going to college? Especially to the figures that the US has? I dont think so. Also, especially when you can NEVER pay off the interest accumulated off said debt.

And I answered this. Yes. A resounding yes. At least the US generates about what it's debt is on a yearly basis. If I needed to come up with $40k for my child, and I didn't have shyt saved up, then yes... debt. Absolutely. I answered this already, what the fukk!

What makes you think one would never be able to pay off said debt? When has that been the premise? Now you're just pulling shyt out of your ass.

The real problem is people are being blinded from whats going on so instead of doing what their ancestors did (revolt) they're continuing to support a system which enriches those in charge of said system.

What are you talking about? What's going on? What revolt are you referring to?

Breh, eventually it will happen. We dont know if its in our life, or the next generation etc.. .But let me ask you this, you dont care that it could come on your descendants head? You're just willing to let them deal with what they get?

I'm confident that, without a doubt it will be addressed in our life times. Not saying it will be paid off but taxes aren't going to be as low as they are forever.

No its not. In the 60's we had Malcolm and MLK. Not to mention fathers in the home. Nowadays theres no positive black role model for people to look up to. fathers are in jail. And rappers/atheletes/celebrities have taken the place of our original leaders. Of course this is in general. I had a father in my home. Some of my friends did as well. Im just speaking on the plight of the black person and how its not where it should be if we are in a "free" country.

I disagree. And the abandoning father is mostly a myth. Plus there are tons today. Cornell West, Tavis Smiley, Neil de grasse Tyson come to mind. Plus there are plently of black entertainers to look up to. Don't look down on them just because they shoot a ball in a hoop. Oh... and the POTUS.

So because we are not getting mobbed means that things have gotten better? This is how you measure its getting better? Ignore everything else?

I will GLADLY trade in public lynchings for BET.

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Fight or live like a slave.

That's what I'm saying! Fight .... with litigation.

So you dont know if the CIA watches certain individuals based on their agendas? Research and see if Malcolm was watched as well as MLK. As well as Huey P Newton. As well as Tupac. You know, anyone that has an idea of what is actually going on and tries to get that message out to the less fortunate?

Oh, well yeah I don't disagree with you that's happening. At least make it plain so the rest of us know what you're talking about. But yeah, and now that technology has improved, it's easier to do this. I don't know.

The question wasnt does it compare to the emmett till story (though destroying a garden that feeds can be considered a violent act) but do these things happen in a "free" country? Yes or no?

Sure they do. If the lady was mistaken on the code, then maybe the government was justified in shutting it down.

Now if you're asking if these things OUGHT to happen in a free country... that's a different thing all together.

 

[Everythingg]

And what's more to the point is @King-Over-Kingz is so dishonest about it. Sensitive BG posted information about the professor, and in the clip he went over his book and you could see his sources and look them up yourself if he wanted. But what did KOK do? Jordan Smiley. Typical.

Here is my original post in regards to Mr. Pinker:

This has to do with what I told noon. You are putting your faith in this guy telling the truth. Where did he get his stats from? What is he accounting as "violence"? Is he accounting for different type of violence like physical AND violence that comes from economic warfare? Of course, the link has no mention of it. Good thing some commenters caught onto it.

Spoiler

The horrors of the twentieth century could hardly have been predicted in the nineteenth century, which saw the eighteenth century end with the American Revolution bringing about the creation of the first classical liberal government in history. The twentieth century was the bloodiest in all history. More than 170 million people were killed by government with 10 million having been killed in World War I and 50 million killed in World War II. Of the 50 million killed in World War II, nearly 70 percent were innocent civilians. (http://www.mises.org/document/2674)

Now point me to where BG answered this post? He didnt. He then expects me to watch a 20 minute video an then research the "sources" provided when he cant even answer these questions? What would I be doing that for? Why would I care whether it is more peaceful or not? I dont. I go by now. And now I do not see the world as being in a good place. Nonetheless I even said, I can answer the video. But I would like what I stated to be addressed. Not ignored, and then me to do some more work when I had already read the link he provided. This isnt about ME verifying anything. He believes it right? He doesnt believe things without proof right?

 

[Everythingg]

Oh, and stop talking about finance. You literally don't know anything about finance other than simpleton shyt. There's levels to this shyt.

fukk finance brethren. Im about life. Im about equality. Im about freedom. fukk this other BS they blind people with

 

[ill]

fukk finance brethren. Im about life. Im about equality. Im about freedom. fukk this other BS they blind people with

This made me lol. You tried to make talking about the wealth gap and economical warfare one of your main talking points when you know almost nothing about it.

So lets have a lesson on logical reasoning.

If some kid in the hood tell you that Best Buy stock is going through the roof cuz his cousin that works there noticed them selling a few extra tvs, are you going to believe him? What do you think his chances of being correct are?

If some Harvard educated Wall St hedge fund manager tells you to buy Best Buy because its going sky high, are you going to believe him? What do you think his chances of being correct are?

Who would you rather believe in this situation?

 

[Everythingg]

I didn't say it was the worst disaster in history. I pointed out the horrific nature of bible thumpers. I pointed out this event to further drive home the point that we ARE better off now than in previous times.

So christians (and I use that loosely) kill 3 mill and all hell breaks loose. But Stalin kills 20 million (which is about half of some estimates) and Hitler kills 6 mill (arent you a jew ) and we're in a better place?

The entire premise is that you question wether we are better off and more peaceful now than before. If you want to keep changing the end goal, we will go on for hours. If you want to take a stand and quit with the nonsense, then all of your arguments have been disproved. Just read through. Oh and for your example, you didn't start with $5. You started with 0 since the white man owned you.

And the person that originally stated that its more peaceful hasnt provided anything to support his opinion. Other than Mr. Pinker. Did he bring sources that he looked up that corroborated Pinker's claim? No. I got "He went to Harvard, he must be telling the truth" kind of answers.

Breh, even if I was an 4 generation african american (Im not) my history would still not start with slavery. That sounds like some cac shyt. So we started with WAY more than 5 and way MORE than those white men that enslaved us. They came to Africa (Egypt) and learned not the other way around.

Oh and you didnt answer. If I deserve 5, am given 5, then three is taken away, why would I be happy with 2?