Why doesn't God reveal himself to those who don't believe? (3 min.VID)

[noon]

If I wanted your attention I'd knock on your door with green facepaint and a wart on my nose and I'd say "trick or treat mister".

 

[Everythingg]

Or here you go Kings. How about studies on the effectiveness of prayer? You probably believe in the power of prayer, yes?

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficacy_of_prayer


So yeah, research is being done in these fields, in addition to other pseudoscience like tarot cards and talking to the dead. The fact of the matter is praying to god for something is as helpful as wearing a lucky shirt. Don't say science is avoiding, or not interested in these topics... that's just not true.

Come on bruh... You cant be serious.

But if you are :

"The experimental and control Groups 1 and 2 were informed they may or may not receive prayers, and only Group 1 received them. Group 3, which tested for possible psychosomatic effects, was informed they would receive prayers and subsequently did. Unlike some other studies, STEP attempted to standardize the prayer method. Only first names and last initial for patients were provided and no photographs were supplied. The congregations of three Christian churches who prayed for the patients "were allowed to pray in their own manner, but they were instructed to include the following phrase in their prayers: 'for a successful surgery with a quick, healthy recovery and no complications"

So they were told what to pray and knew it was for study. Lets pretend that you believe God exists. Do you think God would answer their prayers just to prove a point to people that are trying to disprove that prayers work?

 

[Everythingg]

If I wanted your attention I'd knock on your door with green facepaint and a wart on my nose and I'd say "trick or treat mister".

Do you want my attention? I ask because you really arent providing any insight into anything. Just coming in and trying to harp on one point to cause an argument.

 

[noon]

So they were told what to pray and knew it was for study. Lets pretend that you believe God exists. Do you think God would answer their prayers just to prove a point to people that are trying to disprove that prayers work?

You mean like God answers all the other prayers?

 

[NoMayo15]

Yea I doubt it. And what I doubt is that people all across the world are making up anything and everything when it comes to spiritual matters. "No one can replicate out of body experiences"

Well I don't know if people are making it up... that kind of implies they're willingly being dishonest. I don't think that's the case. Just like with near death experiences, I think people are just mistaken, and intrepting something they don't really understand.

Please bring the citation that exemplifies this as well as the explanation on how exactly science would measure whether someone was having a out of body experience. Im interested in this as I have tried to have one. Though unsuccessful, my body did vibrate for whatever thats worth.

I really don't have time to do your homework for you. Just google studies on out of body experiences, and you'll see what I mean. Wiki lists the sources it uses: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-body_experience#Studies_of_OBEs

You're the one that has been conned. You have shut down your spiritual side for your phsyical. This is exactly what the elite wants. People that are not spiritual. And trust, its in religions as well as outside of them that this is happening.

Implying that one can be spiritual or that being spiritual is virtuous. I don't know what you think this is, or why it's good to be spiritual but...no.

Laws are a function of the universe. But no one can explain how the laws got there and why the universe abides by them correct?

How laws got there? I just told you. They are a function of our universe. They came into existence when time came into existence. To me it's like asking... if you have a cup of water (liquid water)... how did the water get wet? Wetness is a function ... it's a characteristic of liquid water.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

I dont assume everything exists that I dont see. I also dont see a 3 legged giraffe with elephant tusks and wings like a bat. Are you suggesting it exists because I dont see it?

Do you understand how much the brain filters intake compared to what we actually see?

Im not necessarily suggesting that someone would see G-d if there was no filter, let alone actually know how to identify G-d should they see G-d, but using the logic that "i dont see it so it doesnt exist" is flawed at best.

 

[Everythingg]

Well I don't know if people are making it up... that kind of implies they're willingly being dishonest. I don't think that's the case. Just like with near death experiences, I think people are just mistaken, and intrepting something they don't really understand.

You (who has not went through it) are not mistaken about your view on them but they are right?

I really don't have time to do your homework for you. Just google studies on out of body experiences, and you'll see what I mean. Wiki lists the sources it uses: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-body_experience#Studies_of_OBEs

In other words you make a statement, then when asked that you provide support for your statement you back away? Got it.

How laws got there? I just told you. They are a function of our universe. They came into existence when time came into existence. To me it's like asking... if you have a cup of water (liquid water)... how did the water get wet? Wetness is a function ... it's a characteristic of liquid water.

How are laws a function of the universe if the universe is the one abiding by the laws? How did time come into existence?

Wetness is a function? You got it right the second time. Its a characteristic. Now laws in the universe are characteristics or function in your opinion?

 

[Everythingg]

You mean like God answers all the other prayers?

If thats what I meant, Im 100% sure thats what I would have typed.

 

[NoMayo15]

So they were told what to pray and knew it was for study. Lets pretend that you believe God exists. Do you think God would answer their prayers just to prove a point to people that are trying to disprove that prayers work?

I don't know. I guess that depends on how we define the character of god ... or which god we're talking about. I think that if there was a god that wanted people to believe in him, and love and worship him, he would have no problem doing something that could leave no doubt of the power of prayer. I mean, if you can do anything, it would require basically no effort to answer a few prayers ... and you'd probably save millions if not billions of souls (if there's a hell for this particular theology). The scientific minded tends to be skeptical towards theological claims.

But... why do you think it wouldn't? Are those people not worth saving?

 

[noon]

If thats what I meant, Im 100% sure thats what I would have typed.

Maybe a lady with a pointy hat put a spell on you.

 

[NoMayo15]

In other words you make a statement, then when asked that you provide support for your statement you back away? Got it.

The fukk? I gave you a link with examples of studies. Do you actually wanna learn and discuss this, or just tell me that I'm wrong?

How are laws a function of the universe if the universe is the one abiding by the laws? How did time come into existence?

Wetness is a function? You got it right the second time. Its a characteristic. Now laws in the universe are characteristics or function in your opinion?

I see. You just want to joke and post smileys

 

[Everythingg]

The fukk? I gave you a link with examples of studies. Do you actually wanna learn and discuss this, or just tell me that I'm wrong?

And I read what you linked to. And nothing in it said what you originally stated. If I missed something or you have something to provide for SUPPORT of your original statement point me out to it. Because as I said, this is something I tried once and it didnt work but SOMETHING did happen.

I see. You just want to joke and post smileys

I dont think we are in some debate where the winner gets $1 milli of funding for their studies. So why cant I have fun with this as others have been doing with me? It aint like Im ridiculing you or calling you names.

 

[Fervid]

Trying to reason with theists is an exercise in futility. Faith literally means belief without reason.

These guys arguments are full of confirmation bias.

 

[Everythingg]

Maybe a lady with a pointy hat put a spell on you.

Do you want my attention? I ask because you really arent providing any insight into anything. Just coming in and trying to harp on one point to cause an argument.

 

[Everythingg]

Trying to reason with theists is an exercise in futility. Faith literally means belief without reason.

These guys arguments are full of confirmation bias.