Why doesn't God reveal himself to those who don't believe? (3 min.VID)

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King-Over-Kingz said:
I think I can formulate words for myself. No need for YOU to do that for me.

What I clearly stated is that I didnt give up looking for God (and still havent) because I couldnt see God. Like most atheists do.
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Why would I look for something that doesnt exist? Why would I have to look for an all powerful god if it wanted me to "find" it? This is silly breh. You ever stopped to wonder why all your god answers are excuses as to why this thing exists, but does nothing?
 
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King-Over-Kingz said:
I think I can formulate words for myself. No need for YOU to do that for me.

What I clearly stated is that I didnt give up looking for God (and still havent) because I couldnt see God. Like most atheists do.
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Doesn't want people speaking for him.
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Tells us what all people of a certain group does.
 
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intilectual recipricol said:
Why would I look for something that doesnt exist? Why would I have to look for an all powerful god if it wanted me to "find" it? This is silly breh. You ever stopped to wonder why all your god answers are excuses as to why this thing exists, but does nothing?
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This is where an atheist would ask you to prove your claim correct?

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King-Over-Kingz said:
Because at the end of the day life (and existence in general) doesnt just come out of nowhere. Especially to the detailed existence we have. Not only the universe, but our bodies. To think that it just "happened" is what I call illogical, breh.

So the point is, till science figures out the beginning, they're just explaining the physical world. Hey, nothing wrong with that. Well, that is till you try using that explanation to get people to NOT believe in God.
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But ultimately the point is it doesn't matter what seems logical or not to the individual. Take a round Earth for example. Put yourself in the shoes of those who lived before we understood the world to be round. It's kind of intuitive to think that the world is flat... we walk on flat land. Take heliocentricity. We can't feel the Earth revolve, so it seems logical that it's stationary, and the sun revolves around it.

It wasn't until later ... when we had better tools to understand our world, that we discovered that what seemed "common sense" at the time was actually wrong. Furthermore, every single thing that people in the past thought had some supernatural explanation -- lightning, earthquakes, volcanos, etc. -- once we developed the scientific tools to investigate, we found that these phenomena had COMPLETELY natural explanations.

So, fast forward to now. What we have to do is look at evidence instead of appealing to what seems intuitive, or what seems logical to us laymen. The fact of the matter is the overwhelming majority of scientists who study this stuff agree that the universe most likely came about through purely natural means ... including the creation of life on this planet. There is absolutely NO confirming evidence that a god or supernatural being created it. You're on the wrong side of history bro... making the same exact mistakes as people who thought Zeus threw lightning bolts.
 
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Sunalmighty said:
Hilarious. Didn't even bother watching the video. It seems people who don't believe ALWAYS need proof, when they get it its still not enough. Why waste time with folks like that???
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Of course we need proof... you're gullible of you accept any extraordinary claim without proof.

And what's the proof here? The trees? The clouds?

If I told you I was a billionaire, and used my nice car as proof, would that actually convince you that I had at least a billion dollars in my bank account? If it does, I have a bridge in New York I wanna sell you.
 
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NoMayo15 said:
But ultimately the point is it doesn't matter what seems logical or not to the individual. Take a round Earth for example. Put yourself in the shoes of those who lived before we understood the world to be round. It's kind of intuitive to think that the world is flat... we walk on flat land. Take heliocentricity. We can't feel the Earth revolve, so it seems logical that it's stationary, and the sun revolves around it.

It wasn't until later ... when we had better tools to understand our world, that we discovered that what seemed "common sense" at the time was actually wrong. Furthermore, every single thing that people in the past thought had some supernatural explanation -- lightning, earthquakes, volcanos, etc. -- once we developed the scientific tools to investigate, we found that these phenomena had COMPLETELY natural explanations.

So, fast forward to now. What we have to do is look at evidence instead of appealing to what seems intuitive, or what seems logical to us laymen. The fact of the matter is the overwhelming majority of scientists who study this stuff agree that the universe most likely came about through purely natural means ... including the creation of life on this planet. There is absolutely NO confirming evidence that a god or supernatural being created it. You're on the wrong side of history bro... making the same exact mistakes as people who thought Zeus threw lightning bolts.
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You missed what Mr. Shuttlesworth was explaining the thread I guess. All science does is relay facts about the physical world. NOTHING and I mean absolutely NOTHING wrong with trying to figure the physical world. But what about near death experiences? Or dreams? Or people that claim they have left their body and roamed the earth(astral travel)? Or people that claim to have connected with spirits? Nothing? Something? This is the area that atheists and scientists ignore. This would be the spiritual side of things. There is physical and there is spiritual. What seems to be going on today is that those in charge want people to lose their "spiritual selves" for their physical selves.

So where you have it wrong is simple. Just because ancients thought it was their god jupiter throwing bolts down from the clouds (and we obviously found that not to be the case) doesnt mean there isnt a Creator. Just that they had the wrong impression of the physical world. Another thing:

"The fact of the matter is the overwhelming majority of scientists agree that the universe came about throwuh purely natural means.... including the creation of life on this planet"

:what: What put the "natural means" that the universe came into being into place? Itself? Nothing? :patrice:
 
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King-Over-Kingz said:
You missed what Mr. Shuttlesworth was explaining the thread I guess. All science does is relay facts about the physical world. NOTHING and I mean absolutely NOTHING wrong with trying to figure the physical world. But what about near death experiences? Or dreams? Or people that claim they have left their body and roamed the earth(astral travel)? Or people that claim to have connected with spirits? Nothing? Something? This is the area that atheists and scientists ignore.
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Anecdotal evidence isn't scientific. Can't be counted.

Scientists don't ignore dreams. There are studies on dreams. Plenty.
 
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