Why does Shaq get a pass for playing with Kobe?

[dagodmcizme]

shaq went to the west because he didnt waanna have to deal with patrick..

there were no big dudes in the west outside of hakeem

So what do u call a former MVP named DAVID ROBINSON

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

So what do u call a former MVP named DAVID ROBINSON

Karl Malone too. Not only that, but the magic finished 12 fukking games ahead of the Knicks Shaq's last season in Orlando

 

[Liquid]

Those videos on the first page of this thread just further illustrates how fukking garbage the knicks are and have been since 1984.

What a pathetic franchise that refused to give the guy another multiple time all-star to try and win a ring.

 

[Homer Simpson]

Because only an idiot and Kevin Durant would question Shaq

 

[Biscayne]

The issue here isn't whether Kobe played well in the finals. The issue is whether he was a sidekick. A sidekick doesn't average 29/7/6 in the playoffs after he averages 28/6/5 in the regular season. That is what Kobe did at 22 years old on the 2001 Lakers.

Kobe's production in 2001 and 2002 was not the type of production of a sidekick. He averaged 29ppg in the playoffs while Shaq averaged 30ppg. He averaged 28ppg in the regular season while Shaq averaged 29ppg.

If Kobe is averaging one less PPG than Shaq in both the playoffs and regular season, that doesn't make him the sidekick. It makes him EQUAL.

I wanna see a good counter to this. You make a good point you know.

 

[Biscayne]

He wasn't averaging as many points as Shaq, doe.

...and imagine how much wider their scoring gap would be if Shaq could hit FTs. lol

I guess Shaq was Wades sidekick in 2006.

And LeBron was also Wades sidekick in 2011.

 

[Taadow]

I guess Shaq was Wades sidekick in 2006.

And LeBron was also Wades sidekick in 2011.

Yep.

 

[FlyRy]

KOBE WAS CLEARLY THE BETTER PLAYER IN THE MORE COMPETITIVE WESTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS

ONLY PEOPLE TO ARGUE THIS ARE INSECURE BRON GROUPIES

Shaq finals stats

38 and 17
33 and 16 (vs dpoy)
36 and 12

Kobetards are so delusional

 

[Biscayne]

Yep.

Finally someone admits these two facts I've been preaching. This is a victory for us Wade Stans.

 

[Sccit]

Shaq finals stats

38 and 17
33 and 16 (vs dpoy)
36 and 12

Kobetards are so delusional

AGAINST THE LEASTERN CONFERENCE

KOBE WAS BETTER VS THE SUPERIOR WEST

 

[Swagnificent]

Shaq finals stats

38 and 17
33 and 16 (vs dpoy)
36 and 12

Kobetards are so delusional

If you knew anything about the NBA back then, you would know that all the bigs were in the Western Conference. Just look at the names:

Shaq
Duncan
Garnett
Dirk
Webber
Rasheed
David Robinson

They were all in the West. There were no bigs in the East. That is why whenever the Lakers made it to the finals they played through Shaq. The East was the opposite of the West. It had all the guards. Iverson, T-Mac, Vince, Pierce, Ray Allen, etc. all played in the East. And in turn there were alot of really good perimeter defenders in the East. Thus it made no sense to play through Kobe in the NBA Finals. Plus the competition from the East was weak anyways.

Against the Spurs (who were always the Lakers biggest competition), Blazers, and Kings, it was Kobe dominating and leading the way. In those series, they had bigs who could go at Shaq but had no guards that could deal with Kobe. So Kobe went off.

Kobe and Shaq complimented each other. There was no side kick in the relationship. It was literally the only time in NBA history that the two best players in the game were playing on the same team and that team ended up winning 3 championships. And they would have won more if not for the personal friction between the two.

Kobe and Shaq were EQUAL.

 

[FlyRy]

If you knew anything about the NBA back then, you would know that all the bigs were in the Western Conference. Just look at the names:

Shaq
Duncan
Garnett
Dirk
Webber
Rasheed
David Robinson

They were all in the West. There were no bigs in the East. That is why whenever the Lakers made it to the finals they played through Shaq. The East was the opposite of the West. It had all the guards. Iverson, T-Mac, Vince, Pierce, Ray Allen, etc. all played in the East. And in turn there were alot of really good perimeter defenders in the East. Thus it made no sense to play through Kobe in the NBA Finals. Plus the competition from the East was weak anyways.

Against the Spurs (who were always the Lakers biggest competition), Blazers, and Kings, it was Kobe dominating and leading the way. In those series, they had bigs who could go at Shaq but had no guards that could deal with Kobe. So Kobe went off.

Kobe and Shaq complimented each other. There was no side kick in the relationship. It was literally the only time in NBA history that the two best players in the game were playing on the same team and that team ended up winning 3 championships. And they would have won more if not for the personal friction between the two.

Kobe and Shaq were EQUAL.

I love how flawed this whole argument is considering everyone you named was a fukking power forward and not a center except Robinson. None of them would have guarded shaq anyway. The center position had died by the time shaq started winning.

Kobetards

Equal my ass

 

[Monsanto]

You can tell who was watching basketball during those years and who wasn't. Too many people reliant on stats years later.

 

[blackzeus]

We'll never know if the Lakers win by replacing Kobe with AI

What we do know is that the Lakers replaced Shaq with a soft euro and won multiple titles

And he didn't have to team up with T-Mac and Tim Duncan to do it either

 

[blackzeus]

Look man you can word it however you want it..bottom line is kobe was the most dominant player against the best competition in the playoffs. Period. No debate.

At the end of close games they had to take the supposed anchor out to avoid losing b/c of his poor free throw percentage.