Why do you guys talk about religion so much

[Johnny Kilroy]

religion should be completely SEPARATE from politics. Decisions should be made based on what is the BEST decision. Not what decision best goes along with my religious beliefs. Atheism isn't a political view. I don't care if people don't agree with my viewpoints on life, but don't let a man-made religion influence policy decisions.

the god damn chair of the fukking SCIENCE commitee doesn't believe in evolution and takes the bible literally.

And good luck getting into office as an Atheist or Agnostic not gonna happen

Religion is separate from politics but that doesn't mean people's minds won't be swayed by whatever various factors. Religion, sexuality, race. None of these represent "political views" on their own but they all consist of people who make up the voting population and people can vote for whoever they want based on whatever they want.
You're complaining about a man-made government acknowledging a man-made religion?
Sounds like your beef is with the government, not religion per se.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

op is crying because someone made fun of his religion in HL. I saved you from reading 3 pages of this thread.

 

[ltheghost]

I actually enjoy reading the discussions on here about religion, trollery or not. I learn more about religion in the Higher Learning forum than I would at a school. Its just raw discussions and since we are on the internet and not face to face its just talk. You talk to some people in real life about it and they get too emotional or even want to cry when it gets too deep. I salute these convos because we are all learning something at the end of the day.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Religion is separate from politics but that doesn't mean people's minds won't be swayed by whatever various factors. Religion, sexuality, race. None of these represent "political views" on their own but they all consist of people who make up the voting population and people can vote for whoever they want based on whatever they want.
You're complaining about a man-made government acknowledging a man-made religion?
Sounds like your beef is with the government, not religion per se.

You may be right. I feel like representatives and senators are useless. Lets put everything up to a nationwide vote, this could easily be done by computers and using SS# as login or something. These fukks take a whole year just to pass a watered down bill that accomplished absolutely nothing and then vote to raise their own pay also don't get me started on lobbying and don't get me started on the 2 party system, a large varied amount of views always arises at a better solution to a perceived problem.. proportional representation would help this greatly (given we stick to a "representation" system)

and don't even get me started on the electoral college

I think our political system needs to catch up to 2013..

 

[NoMayo15]

So what? Politics and religion are all to me anyway.

Now you're saying it's political. Oh well, you're the minority. That's democracy, right?

You can't be mad because most people don't agree with your viewpoints on life. And you are the minority. That's why it's silly for, maybe not you personally, but the atheists who claim religious folks are crazy. Not even picking a side but if 1 out of 10 people is looking at the other 9 like they're crazy... IDK that just seems kinda ironic to me.

Dumb. Argument from popularity. It doesn't matter if the majority of people think something is true. It doesn't make it true, and that doesn't justify using taxpayer's dollars to propagate those beliefs. If the majority of people think one race is inherently inferior to another, does that make it okay to discriminate against the first race? Our constitution is there to protect the minority from the whims of the majority. So this perspective of... "oh well, you're in the minority, you take whatever people vote for" ... is complete garbage. No one is legislating to ban religion, but atheists would prefer if public figures kept their particular beliefs private, and not create religion-specific laws. If you don't think it happens, or it's not a big deal, then you haven't been paying attention.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Dumb. Argument from popularity. It doesn't matter if the majority of people think something is true. It doesn't make it true, and that doesn't justify using taxpayer's dollars to propagate those beliefs. If the majority of people think one race is inherently inferior to another, does that make it okay to discriminate against the first race? Our constitution is there to protect the minority from the whims of the majority. So this perspective of... "oh well, you're in the minority, you take whatever people vote for" ... is complete garbage. No one is legislating to ban religion, but atheists would prefer if public figures kept their particular beliefs private, and not create religion-specific laws. If you don't think it happens, or it's not a big deal, then you haven't been paying attention.

It does matter if these are the people who are both voting and running for office.

Again, NO ONE IS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST YOU! It's just that most of the population doesn't agree with you. Oh well.

 

[NoMayo15]

It does matter if these are the people who are both voting and running for office.

Again, NO ONE IS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST YOU! It's just that most of the population doesn't agree with you. Oh well.

You're just demonstrably wrong. I'm not saying atheists are going through something as bad as jim crow, but you are just willfully ignorant if you don't think Christians try to implement policy that would negatively affect, and lead to discriminatory policies for non-Christians.

 

[No1]

I'll say this much, I don't participate in any of HL religion threads because I feel like a lot of it devolves into religious bashing in the most disrespectful manner possible, but at any given point like 30% of the topics on the front page have to do with overlapping religious topics. There is somewhat of an obsession and maybe it's because religion is something everyone can have an opinion about or has been affected by. Maybe you guys just don't get to have these conversations in real life, who knows. But to a certain degree I can see the OP's point.

Just my two cents

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

You may be right. I feel like representatives and senators are useless. Lets put everything up to a nationwide vote, this could easily be done by computers and using SS# as login or something. These fukks take a whole year just to pass a watered down bill that accomplished absolutely nothing and then vote to raise their own pay also don't get me started on lobbying and don't get me started on the 2 party system, a large varied amount of views always arises at a better solution to a perceived problem.. proportional representation would help this greatly (given we stick to a "representation" system)

and don't even get me started on the electoral college

I think our political system needs to catch up to 2013..

I agree with you 100%. Everything you just said I'm right in line with you.

Religion is just another classification. If it comes into politics at all it's usually on a corrupt/manipulative tip anyway, used as a tool by those who have figured out how to control people, through hope and fear. At that point, it's not even really religious anyway because it has become something totally different and even potentially evil, full of lies and deceit that go against the fundamental teachings of said religion anyway.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

You're just demonstrably wrong. I'm not saying atheists are going through something as bad as jim crow, but you are just willfully ignorant if you don't think Christians try to implement policy that would negatively affect, and lead to discriminatory policies for non-Christians.

Such as what?

 

[Fervid]

People who dont believe in God want to be absolved from the responsibility of morality so they attempt to find holes in the logic of morality and Gods laws. Sadly, this way of thinking only leads to a society of filth. These devil culture worshipping atheists dont even realize that they need the comfort of a moral society as established by the God fearing because most of them arent built for the end result of a demonic nation.

Its so demonic, friend.

No one owns being good, you arrogant prick.

 

[NoMayo15]

Such as what?

Well, ignoring the states that still have not rescinded laws that are akin to "no person who denies God shall hold public office", forcing prayer in school, teaching creationism in science class, preventing homosexuals from marrying & health decisions for women based on premise that God doesn't like it.........

Other than that stuff, I can't really think of anything else

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Well, ignoring the states that still have not rescinded laws that are akin to "no person who denies God shall hold public office", forcing prayer in school, teaching creationism in science class, preventing homosexuals from marrying & health decisions for women based on premise that God doesn't like it.........

Other than that stuff, I can't really think of anything else

That's what THE PEOPLE voted for. That's not "religion's" fault. Sorry if most people don't agree with your world view.

If the majority of people wanted it the way you do, that's how it would be. You see, you want it to be one way, but it's the other way.

 

[NoMayo15]

That's what THE PEOPLE voted for. That's not "religion's" fault. Sorry if most people don't agree with your world view.

If the majority of people wanted it the way you do, that's how it would be. You see, you want it to be one way, but it's the other way.

Again, bad argument. Just because the majority of people want something, doesn't mean it's "right".

And the point of the thread is to ask why non-believers talk about religion. We talk about it because we see all this detrimental stuff happening/have happened because the majority didn't foresee the negative consequences and/or blatant constitutional violations, or didn't care. Why wouldn't someone speak up about some injustice they see?

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Again, bad argument. Just because the majority of people want something, doesn't mean it's "right".

And the point of the thread is to ask why non-believers talk about religion. We talk about it because we see all this detrimental stuff happening/have happened because the majority didn't foresee the negative consequences and/or blatant constitutional violations, or didn't care. Why wouldn't someone speak up about some injustice they see?

So who determines right from wrong? You?

And the OP's question has been "answered" with nothing but BS. That's not what any of the religious threads in here are about. They're mostly aimed at disrespect and mocking and nothing more.

The bottom line is any political policy that favors any particular religion is probably because the majority of the people follow that religion. Doesn't that make, like, perfect sense?

So basically you're mad because most people don't agree with you.